• You may have to login or register before you can post and view our exclusive members only forums.
    To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Rafa sacked

Status
Not open for further replies.
Zidane in charge. Seems like Real are trying to do a Barca, and hope he turns into Guardiola. Without any of the help, knowledge, patience or support.

This will delight those that really disliked Benitez, but it's not really a surprise to anyone at all.

Oh well
 
Rafa as Dof. Fucking hell.
Would love to sign more free transfers like Degen and Voronin though and 100 young goalkeepers and centre backs.
 
Rafa as Dof. Fucking hell.
Would love to sign more free transfers like Degen and Voronin though and 100 young goalkeepers and centre backs.

I don't think the hilarity and disbelief is about player recruitment.

It's more about envisaging any kind of positive working relationship between Bemitez as DOF and Klopp as the manager reporting into him.

It's sitcom awful
 
But it shouldnt come as a surprise. 22nd manager who has left in 22 seasons.
Sacked after losing 3 games and a win percentage of 68%.
As said earlier, political...
 
I don't think the hilarity and disbelief is about player recruitment.

It's more about envisaging any kind of positive working relationship between Bemitez as DOF and Klopp as the manager reporting into him.

It's sitcom awful

Ha, yeah I know. Player recruitment was just one potentail problem out of God knows how many.
 
CX5VdCAW8AAIocH.jpg
 
  • Like
Reactions: C/O
You'd think 'one of their own' would be at least afforded more than 6 months though

It seemed an upopular choice from the start from both the fans and players.
But surprised he wasnt given the until the end of the season.

Player power at its worst I guess.

"One of their own" makes me cringe and want to throw up btw. Horrendous song and sung by gigantic cunts.
 
It seemed an upopular choice from the start from both the fans and players.
But surprised he wasnt given the until the end of the season.

Player power at its worst I guess.

"One of their own" makes me cringe and want to throw up btw. Horrendous song and sung by gigantic cunts.

Was his style EVER going to work in Madrid?
 
Rafa created a monster: himself. I guess it epitomises the times, but he was so well-paid he could afford not just to take a while off after LFC sacked him and spend time with his family, but also employ no fewer than ten 'associates,' including video analysts, sports scientists and several of his old coaching staff to 'prepare' for his next project. That's no longer being a manager, that's now being a kind of hydra-headed management phenomenon. It's way too much baggage to do what he did early on in his career and really engage, personally, a club. It's more like George Michael driving a juggernaut through the head office of Snappy Snaps. He needs to find another Pako-style confidante and supporter and start simple again, if he can cope with that, which I fear he can't. Even his ambitions have a paunch these days.

As for Real, they're a loathsome club, a club for childish sentiments and garish gestures, and he's better off out of it.
 
He was foolish to take the job in the first place as it was leading up to this from day 1.
 
He was foolish to take the job in the first place as it was leading up to this from day 1.

But you can't blame him really, it was his dream job. He's battled adversity at many clubs in differing ways and won - here, Chelsea, Valencia... His ego is big enough to have him believe he could change a Galatico mentality, which I guess is symptomatic of Rafa's flaws really, that he gets too close to a project that he starts to fail to see the wood for the trees.
 
The team never got behind him. In hindsight it was pretty foolish to go there.
He'll bounce back. I think he'll get a decent job in England.
 
Rafa, big ego? If it is one thing he don't have then it is a big ego and that means that he will never win against the big ego world class players.

IMO the big reason to why he had very big success here and at Valencia is that both clubs at that time didn't had any big ego world class player. He was the boss from day one. He didn't need to win over the fans and the players.

If you look at his signings for us then you will see one thing. He didn't sign a single player that had a big ego. Not a single one. A few of them got a big ego after the success here but they didn't had that when he signed them.
 
Rafa, big ego? If it is one thing he don't have then it is a big ego and that means that he will never win against the big ego world class players.

IMO the big reason to why he had very big success here and at Valencia is that both clubs at that time didn't had any big ego world class player. He was the boss from day one. He didn't need to win over the fans and the players.

If you look at his signings for us then you will see one thing. He didn't sign a single player that had a big ego. Not a single one. A few of them got a big ego after the success here but they didn't had that when he signed them.
Morientes?
 
IMO the big reason to why he had very big success here and at Valencia is that both clubs at that time didn't had any big ego world class player. He was the boss from day one. He didn't need to win over the fans and the players.

What he did at Valencia was incredible and I would term that 'very big success' (though he's not won the league since then - it's over 20 years now no?).

The Champions League and FA Cup with us, considering the money and talent he got/assembled, isn't what I would coin 'a very big success' ... He should have won the league but his ego got in the way (the 'Facts' speech was right, everyone knows that, but he tried to get one up on Fergie and it backfired horribly, letting Keane go so we only had Torres as a ST etc). He should have never let go of Alonso - but his ego ("Barry instead of Alonso and we'll continue to win ... Oops no Barry, Aquilani it is!") got in the way. He left us in a really average way, and the only thing that so far has pulled us out of it, albeit temporarily, was one Uruguayan genius.

Rafa gave us one great night, and another great cup final win. He couldn't take the team to the next level and in the process burned himself out (as evident by his inability to succeed at fairly good set ups in Inter & Napoli - forget Madrid, it's a terrible place to judge any manager, especially a defensive minded manager like him) and hurt the club. I really hope he gets a good job and finds the same success he had in Valencia (as long as it's not in England obviously).
 
Morientes was an excellent team player and didn't had a big ego.

Rafa should go to a club like Southampton if he get the chance. They would allow him to build his team. To much politics and player power at the big clubs now.
 
What he did at Valencia was incredible and I would term that 'very big success' (though he's not won the league since then - it's over 20 years now no?).

The Champions League and FA Cup with us, considering the money and talent he got/assembled, isn't what I would coin 'a very big success' ... He should have won the league but his ego got in the way (the 'Facts' speech was right, everyone knows that, but he tried to get one up on Fergie and it backfired horribly, letting Keane go so we only had Torres as a ST etc). He should have never let go of Alonso - but his ego ("Barry instead of Alonso and we'll continue to win ... Oops no Barry, Aquilani it is!") got in the way. He left us in a really average way, and the only thing that so far has pulled us out of it, albeit temporarily, was one Uruguayan genius.

Rafa gave us one great night, and another great cup final win. He couldn't take the team to the next level and in the process burned himself out (as evident by his inability to succeed at fairly good set ups in Inter & Napoli - forget Madrid, it's a terrible place to judge any manager, especially a defensive minded manager like him) and hurt the club. I really hope he gets a good job and finds the same success he had in Valencia (as long as it's not in England obviously).

He had to sell Xabi to pay the £30m rent on the loan and he had to sell Keane to pay another £20m rent on the same loan.

The reason to why he couldn't take us to the next level is Gillett and Hicks. He burned himself out because he had to do the job our CEO should have done because Purslow was a snake that stabbed him in the back.

Maybe you forgot about the loan that almost bankrupted the club. Maybe you forgot about the war between Gillett and Hicks.

One example and it is true one. Ramsey was a "done deal". Only the medical left and to sign the contract. Then one of our owners stopped the deal because the other one had allowed it. Rafa had done the work himself and asked one of the owners that said yes.
 
He had to sell Xabi to pay the £30m rent on the loan and he had to sell Keane to pay another £20m rent on the same loan.

The reason to why he couldn't take us to the next level is Gillett and Hicks. He burned himself out because he had to do the job our CEO should have done because Purslow was a snake that stabbed him in the back.

Maybe you forgot about the loan that almost bankrupted the club. Maybe you forgot about the war between Gillett and Hicks.

One example and it is true one. Ramsey was a "done deal". Only the medical left and to sign the contract. Then one of our owners stopped the deal because the other one had allowed it. Rafa had done the work himself and asked one of the owners that said yes.

Ok - I can see you have a Messiah. Good luck with that.
 
Another true story is that Rafa wanted Barry signed first and Keane later if he still could afford him but Parry didn't give a shit so he signed Keane first.

An epic swindle is a very interesting book and a must read.

Gillett and Hicks would have sued Reade if it wasn't true and yes, I was one of them that mailbombed the banks to stop them giving a loan to Gillett and Hicks.

In the end Rafa had to sell players for £30m in the summer and a few months players for £20m to pay the rent on the loan. He could have sold other players of course but how big squad would he had then.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom