Rafa sacked

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Farcical

Noone can match the might of Barcelona at present..

He is basically being sacked because of that. Yet he won 10-2 the other week and likely will Finish 2nd..

Modern football is a complete joke

I know!! After a likely 2nd placed finish with one of the most expensively assembled squads ever. Imagine carrying on like that. You're quite right, the modern football fan is a joke too.
 
I know!! After a likely 2nd placed finish with one of the most expensively assembled squads ever. Imagine carrying on like that. You're quite right, the modern football fan is a joke too.

I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that finishing second to Barcelona, who have one of the most expensive and highly paid squads in world sport, is really in any way a disgrace or worth sacking a manager for.

In Spain, it's usually Barca or Real, with the occasional success for a smaller club, under an excellent manager who can deal with the outrageous disparity in available funds, like Valencia under Benitez (twice) or Atletico under Simeone.

If the manager of Real doesn't win the title in maybe his second or third season, then fine, get someone else and buy some more incredibly expensive and talented players. But even Mourinho didn't win it straight away. And let's not forget that managers only have an incremental influence at best, and basically any chimp could finish first or second managing Barcelona or Madrid, depending on luck, form and who they buy and if cunts like Messi and Rinaldo like you and want to play for you

It's a politicians job, really. I'd finish top or second if I managed Barca. Easily
 
I know mate, I was poking fun at the slight hypocrisy of our Jono.

Oh right. I didn't read his post. Anyway, it's not really any surprise is it? That job does really require a certain type to survive for any length of time, due to the incredible dressing room politics, boardroom influence and divvy fans.

It never seemed likely that Benitez was going to last long, because reasons
 
I don't think anyone takes Madrid seriously in terms of their appointments, it's an ideal opportunity to load up your bank balance whilst realizing it won't cause any damage to your reputation or prospects. Everyone knows they manage their affairs by focus group.

I don't know why Madrid don't go the full hog and just have 'guest' managers.

As for Benitez, he'll be back at Valencia shortly.
 
Well he got the job. He doesn't seem like a stupid guy so he'll have known he wouldn't be able to control his fate. The next incumbent will also know that, so it goes.
 
Which is a shame, because it seems like the job he's been waiting for through his career.

Certainly it was always his dream job, but never seemed like a dream alliance, regardless of his Madridista connections. Winning isn't enough there, and if you don't even win....adios
 
Let me remind some of you that Rafa more or less acted as our DoF a couple of years before. He had to do that because of the war between Gillett and Hicks. We signed some excellent players during that time.
 
I know!! After a likely 2nd placed finish with one of the most expensively assembled squads ever. Imagine carrying on like that. You're quite right, the modern football fan is a joke too.
Ha ha.. Some how I knew Markey would have a dig..
 
Let me remind some of you that Rafa more or less acted as our DoF a couple of years before. He had to do that because of the war between Gillett and Hicks. We signed some excellent players during that time.

Are you really suggesting that Jurgen Klopp as manager, with Benitez as Director Of Football would be a good idea?

Because I can see one or two hundred potential problems
 
Are you really suggesting that Jurgen Klopp as manager, with Benitez as Director Of Football would be a good idea?

Because I can see one or two hundred potential problems

I can't see any problems. Klopp will need someone to help him out. Someone that can build up the club from top to bottom. He can't do that massive job himself. Dortmunds success wasn't all down to Klopp. Zorc and Klopp worked excellent together.

Right now Ayre is doing that job. We clearly need someone better than him. Ayre should concentrate on the financial part of the club.
 
Arn, please keep posting, and don't mind the haters, but the Rafa is a is a little off. most notably Rafa seems himself as a manager/coach. DOF for him is about 20 years away
 
That dross took us to first place in Europe. The most feared club in Europe.

Nah, he was great at getting teams far in Europe anyway, we didn't really surpass what he did in his first two seasons when we eventually spent relatively big. I don't think you can say players like Keane, Aquilani, Johnson, Dossena, Riera etc had a significant impact on our European standing. Perhaps when flying at our best with Alonso, Gerrard and Torres at their best we did finally have the air or superiority to go with the reputation we had gradually built up, but it wasn't his signings that cemented our place among Europe's elite, it was his ability to tactically outclass teams in European competition.
 
I can't see any problems. Klopp will need someone to help him out. Someone that can build up the club from top to bottom. He can't do that massive job himself. Dortmunds success wasn't all down to Klopp. Zorc and Klopp worked excellent together.

Right now Ayre is doing that job. We clearly need someone better than him. Ayre should concentrate on the financial part of the club.

Oh wow
 
Arn, please keep posting, and don't mind the haters, but the Rafa is a is a little off. most notably Rafa seems himself as a manager/coach. DOF for him is about 20 years away
20 years?! He's 56 now, overweight, works in a very high stress job & has a history of heart attacks.

I think it's a safe bet that if he is somehow still alive in twenty years, he won't be working.
 
20 years?! He's 56 now, overweight, works in a very high stress job & has a history of heart attacks.

I think it's a safe bet that if he is somehow still alive in twenty years, he won't be working.

Rafa's had heart attacks? Don't you mean Ged?
 
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