[QUOTE="manwithnoname, post: 1376074, member: 1731"]As poor a performance as anything seen in the last 10 years. Abject and embarrassing. Makes all the delirious chatter of Top 4 or even a title challenge look risible and rancid.
I had large concerns when I saw the teamsheet, similar to how I felt before the Newcastle game, and this was even worse. Klopp needs a gigantic amount of money to spend, because this squad isn't good enough to make the Top 4.
Bogdan (3) I've never rated him above Mongolet, and that opinion was reinforced within 3 minutes. A calamitous joke and fortunate to only concede three.
Skrtel (4) a blessing for him when he went off, as he was getting brutalised by Watford's attack.
Sakho (2) one of the worst defensive displays I have ever seen. Clumsy, sloppy, awkward, brainless. Utter shit from start to finish, Watford will wish they can play him every week
Clyne (5) no attacking quality, but at least he can run and change direction. Without falling over. Poor final ball.
Moreno (6) some poor decisions at times, but he never gave up and offered some threat in attack.
Lucas (2) so embarrassingly far away from the required standard, it was almost funny. Weak, slow, poor passing, he's easily the worst defensive midfielder in the Premiership and should never ever play for Liverpool again. A joke.
Can (3) passing was as accurate as khat-chewing Congolese boy soldier shooting an AK into the jungle. And as dangerous. He was a clumsy, useless twat, lumbering around midfield ineffectually like a bear looking for picnic scraps in Dumpsters
Henderson (5) some nice long passing and one of our better players, but he's not good enough to ever really change the course of a game, and his personality doesn't scream 'leader of men'
Coutinho (4) fact is, tragically, is that he is one of our most talented and important players. That's depressing really. Didn't look arsed.
Lallana (2) such a total anodyne non-entity. No goals - which is standard - but offered no pace, threat, bottle or attacking threat. A spineless shithouse
Firmino (2) kept up his usual form. Will never make it, because he's not very good. He's fucking useless actually.
There's no fucking way we have a worse squad than Watford, West Ham, Palace and Leicester....and those 4 sides sit above us.
It's easy to say after that horror show 'we're not good enough for top 4' and suchlike and yeah we have some real problem areas that need addressing and not to mention some bang average players but I don't go along with this notion we don't have a squad capable of fighting it out for top 4.
Not in a season as wide open as this and a League which is evidently short of quality throughout.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but I suppose you can't ever really account for so many great individual performances, consistently, at some of those clubs, Leicester being the most obvious example.
And I admit that pre-Klopp, I was pretty happy with the business we did this summer, especially compared to the previous one, because I rated Benteke, Clyne, Milner. Firmino was an unknown for me, given I think I may have seen him play once at most, and he's been utterly shit.
But the biggest issue is not so much individuals, but rather the spine of the team. I wanted Rodgers sacked in summer, and the appointment of a much superior manager in Klopp was brilliant, but that spine hasn't been addressed, and that's worrying. We need a new keeper, a new DM to ensure Lucas never plays again, a quick attacker to replace Sterling and put Lallana back in the bench where he belongs,a new CB because I've never ever been cinvinced by Sakho either. Or Lovren.
A maybe even another striker, although Ings is on his way back eventually
It is hard to accept that fucking Palace and Pardew are better than us right now, and I wouldn't swap their squad for ours, but it's finer details in this league, and we would certainly be hugely improved by several players who are currently at Clubs like Place, West Ham, Leicester and Watford.
