What's that now 11 points dropped in the 27?
Three games in a week is too much when we have no depth.
Three games in a week is too much when we have no depth.
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Klopp blamed the wind, haha.
This isnt a dip, we have been average since December
Everton 0 Liverpool 0: The Match Ratings
by Ben Johnson | Mar 3, 2019 | 11 comments
Alisson: 7
Made a couple of half decent saves. Seen a Blue on the train with a Vanarama coat on before the game. A fucking sponsor on his coat. Fucking tramps.
Trent: 7
Seemed keen to beat these Bluenose cunts. Started well, drifted out of it like all The Reds.
Joel: 7
Makes me nervous all day long. Don’t like the way he always ends up stepping out like fucking Glenn Hysen in his pomp. Road to nowhere. That said, dribbles down a dead end and somehow sets up Mo Salah for the second half one that he should score.
Virgil: 8
Mad the way their game plan first half was to try to twat it to the best defender in the league’s head, or alternatively kick it into that weird family bit where they seem to house quite a number of unfortunate looking people. Sublime all game pretty much.
Andy Robbo: 7
What you would expect? All the running, all the work, all the tackles. The Reds not quite at it second half but it wasn’t for the want of trying.
Jordan Henderson: 7
First half I thought he was The Reds’ best player. Second half, like the rest of them, raggedy arse motherfucker. Some ball through for Mo first half.
Gini: 6
Seemed a step too far today. Four games in, what, seven days or some shite? Quiet.
Fabinho: 7
Bright, controlled that section of midfield. Was a shame he or anyone else in midfield didn’t step up last 20 when The Reds needed a cool head. A bit frantic last 20 and needed someone to take the sting out of it.
Mo: 6
Six seems harsh but he’s got to take one of them two chances. Two poor touches for both one on ones killed his chances to finish. Did well first half but couldn’t get on it second.
Sadio: 6
Night off for Sadio. Tried his best, just didn’t get much going for him.
Divock: 7
Dead funny the way they booed him every time he touched it. Hahahahaha.
“What shall we do with this cunt who scored in the 96th minute against us last time and always scored against us?”
“Well we probably should try and ignore him and pretend like it didn’t crush our souls.”
“Yer, yer. I agree. Let’s show no feelings whatsoev… Boooooooooooooooo. Fucking boooooooooooooo. Boooooo that fucking boooooo.”
SUBS
They all made us worse. All of them. So I’m giving them a collective four. Shite.
by Ben Johnson | Mar 3, 2019 | 11 comments
Alisson: 7
Made a couple of half decent saves. Seen a Blue on the train with a Vanarama coat on before the game. A fucking sponsor on his coat. Fucking tramps.
Trent: 7
Seemed keen to beat these Bluenose cunts. Started well, drifted out of it like all The Reds.
Joel: 7
Makes me nervous all day long. Don’t like the way he always ends up stepping out like fucking Glenn Hysen in his pomp. Road to nowhere. That said, dribbles down a dead end and somehow sets up Mo Salah for the second half one that he should score.
Virgil: 8
Mad the way their game plan first half was to try to twat it to the best defender in the league’s head, or alternatively kick it into that weird family bit where they seem to house quite a number of unfortunate looking people. Sublime all game pretty much.
Andy Robbo: 7
What you would expect? All the running, all the work, all the tackles. The Reds not quite at it second half but it wasn’t for the want of trying.
Jordan Henderson: 7
First half I thought he was The Reds’ best player. Second half, like the rest of them, raggedy arse motherfucker. Some ball through for Mo first half.
Gini: 6
Seemed a step too far today. Four games in, what, seven days or some shite? Quiet.
Fabinho: 7
Bright, controlled that section of midfield. Was a shame he or anyone else in midfield didn’t step up last 20 when The Reds needed a cool head. A bit frantic last 20 and needed someone to take the sting out of it.
Mo: 6
Six seems harsh but he’s got to take one of them two chances. Two poor touches for both one on ones killed his chances to finish. Did well first half but couldn’t get on it second.
Sadio: 6
Night off for Sadio. Tried his best, just didn’t get much going for him.
Divock: 7
Dead funny the way they booed him every time he touched it. Hahahahaha.
“What shall we do with this cunt who scored in the 96th minute against us last time and always scored against us?”
“Well we probably should try and ignore him and pretend like it didn’t crush our souls.”
“Yer, yer. I agree. Let’s show no feelings whatsoev… Boooooooooooooooo. Fucking boooooooooooooo. Boooooo that fucking boooooo.”
SUBS
They all made us worse. All of them. So I’m giving them a collective four. Shite.
I blame Salah for not putting that first chance between Pickford’s legs.
If City were to get to the Semi finals of both cups they’d have a run of 8 games in something like 22 days. It’s that kind on congestthat can throw up strange results no matter the depth of your squad.
I was saying to my mate throughout that Everton's style of play was made for us - there were gaps in all sorts of places, at times they were leaving one of the front three completely unmarked. Our normal style of playing a bit more through the middle feels like it would have been effective. The Watford game drew us into thinking every time we got the ball we should give it to TAA or Robbo to ping it in - if that was our plan we needed at least another attacker on the pitch.
We really miss someone in the middle who will progress into the final third with the ball. Millie gave that a go when he came on, but at that stage we'd already taken off Mane and brought on the ineffective Lallana and Bobby who wasn't up to speed. Of all the draws, this felt like opportunity missed in the sense of style of play. In most of the others it felt like we were in control and just didn't do enough to win, whereas in this one we completely lost our shape and seemingly had no game plan.
We really miss someone in the middle who will progress into the final third with the ball. Millie gave that a go when he came on, but at that stage we'd already taken off Mane and brought on the ineffective Lallana and Bobby who wasn't up to speed. Of all the draws, this felt like opportunity missed in the sense of style of play. In most of the others it felt like we were in control and just didn't do enough to win, whereas in this one we completely lost our shape and seemingly had no game plan.
I though in the first half we were attacking down the right. Trent was coming inside as Salah stretched them outside. Then we stopped doing it. Then we just stopped doing it.
Having an Ox type player getting into that area would’ve torn them a new one.
Having an Ox type player getting into that area would’ve torn them a new one.
We should have won this. Not clinical enough and struggled a bit to fully control the game. Everton was running more and pressing harder than they have done for å decade so it was not the easiest of afternoons. Salah wasteful at times and playful on the ball other times. Origi did well and held the ball well so maybe not the best idea to take hun off, but maybe his legs felt dead after a few games. Mane is our Man of the Moment so should probably stay on to the end. But we got a draw and need to move on from here. Burnley at home next. Then a tough ride in Munich. Go Redmen!!
No he didn't. This is really getting pathetic. Some hacks are desperate to create and sustain one of their stupid little themes, and with Klopp it's blaming results on the weather. He doesn't, but whenever he mentions anything in passing like that, as many managers do, it becomes 'Klopp blames weather'. The manipulativeness is sad; people falling for it is sadder still.
Klopp clearly stated that the wind was a factor in the performance and the result, so it's not really a huge fucking leap to say "he blamed the wind".
Well it was a factor. Perhaps he should have said we struggled with the conditions instead of wording it quite the way he did, but it's still been blown out of all proportion.
Pun intended?
It wasn't really that controversial. It was windy. It was a factor.
He seemed more agitated about accusations that we "didn't take enough risks" - whatever that means - and started going on about Playstations.
If it's about players being more aggressive with their movement and attempting to make more penetrative "risky" passes, then again, it's not controversial, it's accurate, but he doesn't really have enough players of that type, or certainly not ones he trusted enough to play (Keita, Shaqiri).
It's a bit pointless asking players like Henderson, Milner, Fabinho and Wijnaldum to do that, as they aren't that sort of player.
Which again brings us back to the problem with the team - no quality back-up for Mane or Salah, a lack of a top striker and nobody who is good enough to play that creative "Coutinho" attacking midfield role, which leaves us with three water-carrier workhorses as the first-choice central midfield.
Heh, I did realise it when I wrote it, but it wasn't intended as such.
How disappointing
Unless you heard a different presser to the one I did, no he did not blame it on the wind. Your smugly mechanical contrariness is really very tiresome.
Either way, playing in the wind is a bitch. I fucking hated it.
You are, of course, allowed to indulge in a tortuous semantic exercise involving the words "factor" and "blame", and indeed I myself have decided to say that Klopp used the wind as a "factor" rather than the more heavily-weighted "blame", however it isn't really outrageous to parse "Klopp blames wind" from the following statement:
"Very, very difficult game for different reasons, wild opponent and - I know people don't like it when I say this - the wind came from all different directions, you saw that in a lot of situations. It didn't help any football play, especially when the ball was in the air which it was a lot. In a game that was difficult to control because of those things"
So yeah, Klopp stated the wind was a factor in us not playing well. He's previously cited the wind as factor in a disappointing result and display when we lost to Wolves.
Klopp naivety / Having too much faith thinking we could go the season with this front 3amd no adequate cover. I wonder how our much better our season could have been if had we signed fekir / top forward. Last season his faith in karius cost us a champions league. This season it will be the league. It will no doubt be fixed in the summer. One year too late for klopp
There is an eerie familiarity to Benitez's 11 draws in that season when we lost out to the skanks.
I'm surprised that Klopp hasn't still realised that this [conservative] midfield three (regardless who the three are) is a large part of the problem, It's offering very little in attack especially when playing defensively sound teams. It's the same formation which saw us just about scramble in the champions league and in those costly league draws.
I'm surprised that Klopp hasn't still realised that this [conservative] midfield three (regardless who the three are) is a large part of the problem, It's offering very little in attack especially when playing defensively sound teams. It's the same formation which saw us just about scramble in the champions league and in those costly league draws.
It was a tough one for Klopp as against Watford he played Fabs & Gini as the two deeper lying players and Milner put in a great performance as the more advanced of the three. He then tried to give Hendo that free role linking midfield to attack but that just isn't his game any more and Hendo would come deep and often just loft it forward or out wide. That was a line up that didn't need square pegs in round holes but we managed to find a way to play Hendo out of position.
All the more reason why our tactics of hoofing it forward as much as we did, as I mentioned in the match thread, (one surmises to bypass their press) was surprising.
Yeah, there was a huge gaping hole there.
I don't know why we didn't work out that the best way to bypass their press is to RUN PAST THEM.
Sounds obvious, but Everton have so many one-paced players; Siggurdsson, Keane, Coleman, Schneiderlin who should have been isolated and exploited. But we didn't run. We lofted passes about and played square balls. it was too easy.
Yep.
I just think Klopp and his players paid too much respect to Everton. As they did to the skanks. It was so obvious that there goals to be had but maybe the players haven’t the brains to figure it out themselves that a change intactics is needed. Poor leadership all round.
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