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Give a name of a replacement if he was to leave tomorrow that would overall be better?

This is so fucking stupid. We never replaced Coutinho. We bought two completely different players who did absolutely nothing he did, and we were better for it. We are in need of a new team, which, if it is ever realized, will not be some version of the old team, because that's never how it works, and the meta game keeps moving along. We kept someone who isn't particularly adaptable and was the exclamation mark on the old team.

Salah is worse and worsening at all the things he is best at doing. More significantly all the things he's best at are less useful to us right now.

I hope he has a little purple patch and he can help paper over the cracks a little, because that's all we can hope for.

He's a winger that doesn't defend right now. Boy is it fun to watch. Occasionally when we actually dominate the opponents third and he moves centrally, he will score with unremarkable frequency. Otherwise, for all the jabs at how dumb Nunez is, and how poor his touch is, he doesn't usually cut inside into traffic and get dispossessed by a left back. He might shoot it into row z, or he might get to the byline, or pass, the fucking dummy. Salah is doing coutinhos old move of looking to score the one goal that is reliable for him, but it's almost a tic at this point.

When Trent and Henderson and whoever else used to bail Salah out it was worth it, and they were capable of doing it, because he was doing more. Now it isn't.

He should be put to work a bit. When more technically gifted forwards are back in terms of build up play, maybe he can do the business a bit. It'd be nice. Only it's going to be a few months from now. Unless gakpo really hits the ground running.
 
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Mohamed Salah has 20+ G/A in every season since joining Liverpool:-

◉ 2017/18 -60 G/A
◉ 2018/19 -39 G/A
◉ 2019/20 -36 G/A
◉ 2020/21 -37 G/A
◉ 2021/22 -47 G/A
◉ 2022/23 -23 G/A (guess what he's going to post this season - I'll say 43 G/A)
 
He is, but he gave us the possibility to invest and make the team as a whole better
No he didn't because there weren't any buyers when he was at his peak value 2-3 seasons ago (Spanish clubs on the ropes and only PSG - with Messi, Neymar & M'Bappe - financially viable, bar maybe Chelsea). Last season before he re-signed wasn't even a real option unless you would have been happy pocketing £40m.
 
I don't know what some of you are on about. He's mint. Even when he isn't scoring he's terrifying the opposition simply because he's there and they know what he can do. It's the team really that is the issue not just him. He'll get over it and so will the team.

Look at him like a condom...... It's better to have him and not need him than need him and not have him.... Simples...😉
 
I don’t think you realise how long it would have taken that reinvestment to bear fruit.

My point is that given how we are currently performing (i.e. no chance of winning or achieving anything this season), with HINDSIGHT we could and probably should have allowed this season to be one we were letter that investment bear fruit. Now we just have to wait longer, and with 'assets' that are depreciating in value
 
I don't know what some of you are on about. He's mint. Even when he isn't scoring he's terrifying the opposition simply because he's there and they know what he can do. It's the team really that is the issue not just him. He'll get over it and so will the team.

Look at him like a condom...... It's better to have him and not need him than need him and not have him.... Simples...😉

Condoms save you the better part of a million.

A condom past its sell by date can cost the same.
 
The longer it takes us to invest and deal with our issues, the longer it will take to bare fruit.

It can also never bear fruit. You end up solving one problem as another develops and the whole thing never culminates, you just keep chasing and reacting.
 
My point is that given how we are currently performing (i.e. no chance of winning or achieving anything this season), with HINDSIGHT we could and probably should have allowed this season to be one we were letter that investment bear fruit. Now we just have to wait longer, and with 'assets' that are depreciating in value
Fine lines. We could absolutely win the CL yet this season and absolutely should have last season.
 
I think as this season spirals out of control, Salah will continue scoring goals in a team which wins nothing.
The only way to have 'spent' would have been his sale ... just like we'd be what we see today had we not sold Coutinho.
I'm not saying Salah is a bad player - he's either our best or one of our best players.
However, I don't think his greatness can propel our next run at greatness - assuming that comes.
 
I think as this season spirals out of control, Salah will continue scoring goals in a team which wins nothing.
The only way to have 'spent' would have been his sale ... just like we'd be what we see today had we not sold Coutinho.
I'm not saying Salah is a bad player - he's either our best or one of our best players.
However, I don't think his greatness can propel our next run at greatness - assuming that comes.

I think he'll continue not scoring goals, and playing fucking horribly.
 
I think he'll continue not scoring goals, and playing fucking horribly.

He's scored 14 in the last 18 .. so he'll get ~30 but I just don't see how his goals do anything.
His goals just don't mean anything - and he adds so little on the right flank it's unreal ...
He's going to want out anyways soon enough because he'll realize we won't be able to win anything in Europe next year and that's what he wants.
 
He's scored 14 in the last 18 .. so he'll get ~30 but I just don't see how his goals do anything.
His goals just don't mean anything - and he adds so little on the right flank it's unreal ...
He's going to want out anyways soon enough because he'll realize we won't be able to win anything in Europe next year and that's what he wants.

His goals in the league are unimpressive. He gives a little extra in the cl, which suits us more.

Everyone rabbiting on about all these goals he's scoring. You are watching him play, right? Do you think he's good enough? I know that if he was a new player doing likewise you'd be slating him. He's going through the motions like most of the team.
 
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Sell Salah rebuild the squad is so stupid because at most we would have got is £60m as he was going into the last year of his contract. He doesn't have the edge in the past but he is still our best player.
If you want to ask question about money or the lack of it, don't do it by selling your best asset for £60m, who the fuck are going to get?
These are the problem
  1. Letting £100-200m worth of assets wind down their contracts is the first issue. Why do that if your policy is sell to buy?
  2. Paying Agents a really high fee
  3. Paying off the construction of the stadium in a short window, I think its 7 years
  4. A transfer policy which would over pay than enter into complications eg Moises, we were allegedly very interested but due to the number of agents he had we backed out, It seems if there's a little bit of red tape. We steer away.
The biggest issue is you have owners that don't really care
 
He’s playing like shit. He’s earning a fortune. Look how much better our press is without him.

Wait till 2025 when we’ve still got him on the books and everyone is comparing him to Ox and Keita.
 
Sell Salah rebuild the squad is so stupid because at most we would have got is £60m as he was going into the last year of his contract. He doesn't have the edge in the past but he is still our best player.
If you want to ask question about money or the lack of it, don't do it by selling your best asset for £60m, who the fuck are going to get?
These are the problem
  1. Letting £100-200m worth of assets wind down their contracts is the first issue. Why do that if your policy is sell to buy?
  2. Paying Agents a really high fee
  3. Paying off the construction of the stadium in a short window, I think its 7 years
  4. A transfer policy which would over pay than enter into complications eg Moises, we were allegedly very interested but due to the number of agents he had we backed out, It seems if there's a little bit of red tape. We steer away.
The biggest issue is you have owners that don't really care
True, the bold bit but the biggest issue is not tight-fisted owners but that we don’t foresee players’ losing their edge and performance. Should have let him go end of last season.
 
I stand by what I said a few days ago. There would have been anarchy if we sold both Mane and Salah in the same window.

That being said I said a few years ago we should have sold one of the trio so we weren't in this position in the first place.
The only anarchy would have been if we replaced them with Trossard, Chris Wood and Aubamayang

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I think it’s mostly a team problem. Klopp’s teams never rely solely on talented individuals to create goals and chances - the whole team plays in a way to create space and shooting chances for each other. With the gradual individual decline of Mane, Salah and Firmino, Klopp started relying more and more on midfielders running beyond the front three to help - hence Elliott or Hendo or Trent being asked to play as these roaming box-to-box players - this worked up to a point when other teams realized we’ve sacrificed too much defensively and everything came crashing down.

Anyway, no reason to rip into Salah I think - he has declined the least among our great front 3, he can still be effective, but he won’t beat teams all by himself. With a solid structure behind him, he will score goals. Also for those who say he doesn’t ever do anything useful during the game - until Nunez came on, Salah was the only one regularly making runs in behind (and often being found by teammates). It didn’t come to anything in the game, but this kind of outlet provides oxygen to a team - remove it and you will be back in the late Rodgers type of tippy-tappy football without any threat or penetration.

It’s typical that fans are looking for scapegoats among individuals, particularly star players, when the team structure stops working. That being said, I think if you’re going to single out someone who has severely underperformed this season and let the team down, I think the first names mentioned should be Fabinho, Henderson and Trent (up until the WC).
 
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