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I’ll just say it…

What would you do in the summer?


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But why would kelleher want to have that battle?

I think it's all very harsh.

In any other era of football this wouldn't be a conversation. Comes up through the academy. Wins things for us, performs in big games.
Yeah, I'm increasingly so minded.
 
I mean… why not if some offers us significantly more than we paid for him - but I’m not sure that’s the best option.

I think Fabio’s right with the “cold version” - for me, while Ali is top notch, there’s a bigger risk in letting him, as the older player continue.

I can’t see Irish Kev signing a new contract unless he’s given the No 1 spot - so at least one of Ali or Irish Kev should be sold for top £££ in the summer.
Ummm . . . you must be referring to the younger and better looking Fabio.
 
But why would kelleher want to have that battle?

I think it's all very harsh.

In any other era of football this wouldn't be a conversation. Comes up through the academy. Wins things for us, performs in big games.
Every player has that battle (or should). Every player knows its a production line and LFC should ideally have that in every position. He's not a Virgil or a Salah, best in the world in class (at some time).
 
Every player has that battle (or should). Every player knows its a production line and LFC should ideally have that in every position. He's not a Virgil or a Salah, best in the world in class (at some time).

GK is very different to every other position.
 
Every player has that battle (or should). Every player knows its a production line and LFC should ideally have that in every position. He's not a Virgil or a Salah, best in the world in class (at some time).

Yeah, it's a production line. Our academy produced a keeper that will go to a good team. He passed every test.

Yes, there are better keepers in the world. The chances of getting one better are low.
 
And yet we may have already bought one. So maybe not that low.

Zero evidence that Georgian is better. Especially when a large chunk of what we need from a keeper in Slot's tactics is one who is comfortable on the ball.

Valencia are trash, and in 18th in La Liga. He will be in a scenario where he is facing a lot of shots, and making lots of saves. Do we know he can keep high standards when making one or two saves a game. It is all speculation for the new guy. For Kelleher his performances are clear.
 
Alison stays as no1 until his performances in goal drop. He’s still clearly the best keeper in the world and as such better than Kelleher.
GK’s can play until 40 so I’d be sticking with Ali.

Kelleher will continue to get game time here and win trophies. If that’s not enough then let him go. We have 2 other very capable gk’s coming through. Selling Alison is nonsense.

Everytime Kelleher does concede my first reaction, ‘I think Ali saves that’ which is the main deciding factor.
 
Alison stays as no1 until his performances in goal drop. He’s still clearly the best keeper in the world and as such better than Kelleher.
GK’s can play until 40 so I’d be sticking with Ali.

Kelleher will continue to get game time here and win trophies. If that’s not enough then let him go. We have 2 other very capable gk’s coming through. Selling Alison is nonsense.

Everytime Kelleher does concede my first reaction, ‘I think Ali saves that’ which is the main deciding factor.

Would you consider a decreasing amount of games he’s fit for playing a sign of performance drop or are you saying as long as he can be world class and play one game a season we should keep?

It’s not a question of ability - it never was - it’s a question of whether his body is up to it.

I’ve argued that his fitness isn’t a problem in past, but the evidence suggests it’s becoming increasingly so - last year he missed a fair chunk… this years is looking equally problematic.

It’s definitely something that should be considered.
 
I still dont get why we've signed Marma. More important areas to strengthen.

I wouldnt have countenanced selling the best keeper in the world at the start of the season, as his ability to rescue us v a 1 on 1 was frightening. However we dont concede anywhere near as many of those chances as we used to, so im becoming more open to it.

If we were to sell Ali though, it would be madness to let Kelleher go. Massive gamble to think marma would be better. It would be moneyball stats gone mad.
 
Opportunity arose and a deal was there to be made to sign a player that was “on the list”.
 
Zero evidence that Georgian is better. Especially when a large chunk of what we need from a keeper in Slot's tactics is one who is comfortable on the ball.

Valencia are trash, and in 18th in La Liga. He will be in a scenario where he is facing a lot of shots, and making lots of saves. Do we know he can keep high standards when making one or two saves a game. It is all speculation for the new guy. For Kelleher his performances are clear.
Well not quite all speculation since he was GK of the tournament at the Euros with some superb performances, and everything coming out of Valencia is he's continuing to perform. He can't be held responsible just for being in a shite team.

That said Kelleher has been great so we're spoilt for choice. Bird in the hand perhaps. On the one hand I can see the club going Kelleher and Mamar but then they hold onto players so Ali and Mamar (because I don't think Kelleher will stay if he's competing with Ali again).
 
Alison stays as no1 until his performances in goal drop. He’s still clearly the best keeper in the world and as such better than Kelleher.
GK’s can play until 40 so I’d be sticking with Ali.

Kelleher will continue to get game time here and win trophies. If that’s not enough then let him go. We have 2 other very capable gk’s coming through. Selling Alison is nonsense.

Everytime Kelleher does concede my first reaction, ‘I think Ali saves that’ which is the main deciding factor.
Which is also bollocks because we have no idea if he would have or not. Rose tinted glasses. Maybe he would maybe he wouldn't maybe he wouldn't have made some of the other saves Kelleher has made maybe he'd mess up doing his Cruyff turns again. Impossible to say. What we can say is the defence is looking much better than last season and Kelleher has only conceded 7 goals in 10 matches this season, 2 of those as a result of penalties (which he is great at saving).
 
No one thought Kelleher should have been our first choice keeper after last season and the club rightly pursued and got Marmardashvili.

Kelleher looks good now but so does the entire team, yes it unfortunate but the club did nothing wrong in this instance.

I think Ali is leaving this summer, he only has a year left on his contract. Just like Kelleher.

The other scenario is that we extend Ali's contract for a year (we have an option) and slowly introduce Marmardashvili to English football.
 
Zero evidence that Georgian is better. Especially when a large chunk of what we need from a keeper in Slot's tactics is one who is comfortable on the ball.

Valencia are trash, and in 18th in La Liga. He will be in a scenario where he is facing a lot of shots, and making lots of saves. Do we know he can keep high standards when making one or two saves a game. It is all speculation for the new guy. For Kelleher his performances are clear.

Valencia have been a mid table team while he has been there. Finished 9th last season and Giorgi had 13 clean sheets.
Given their financial situation they keep getting worse and that hasnt got much to do with him.
He is also very comfortable with the ball at his feet and has improved greatly while in Spain.

I think if we sell Alisson then Kelleher would be nr 1 and Giorgi would be the challenger. Have to say I think Giorgi has the higher ceiling of the two. His size just gives him an extra edge in regards to saves and his aerial dominance is just unprecedented.
 
What was Kelleher’s penalty saves stats like before this season? It seems like even though he played more games than Ali last season (is this correct??), his level of performance has gone up especially now with penalty saves too this season? His post game interviews are so calm.
 
Well not quite all speculation since he was GK of the tournament at the Euros with some superb performances, and everything coming out of Valencia is he's continuing to perform. He can't be held responsible just for being in a shite team.

That said Kelleher has been great so we're spoilt for choice. Bird in the hand perhaps. On the one hand I can see the club going Kelleher and Mamar but then they hold onto players so Ali and Mamar (because I don't think Kelleher will stay if he's competing with Ali again).

Not trying to pin any Valencia blame on him - just saying goalkeepers look very different in lower table sides compared to title challengers. We see that loads in the PL.

Anyway - we've found out unexpectedly that our back up keeper is absolutely ready to be our #1. He's kept clean sheets agianst some of the toughest teams we have faced on paper this season - Real Madrid, Bayer Leverkusen, RB Leipzig Aston Villa, Bournemouth
 
I think Ali would have been fine with staying if the other Brazilians were around. I think I remember reading that his family were close to Firmino and Fabinho's. I also have a feeling that Taffarell doesn't want to hang around much longer either.
 
I think Ali would have been fine with staying if the other Brazilians were around. I think I remember reading that his family were close to Firmino and Fabinho. I also have a feeling that Taffarell doesn't want to hang around much longer either.

Nobody fancies his bbq anymore!!!
 
i think kelleher is off, ali stays but might start the season as number 2
Will that be because he will be coming back from an injury?

I think the stattos will look at Ali and think his value is high, wages high and availability low. Sell.
 
Will that be because he will be coming back from an injury?

I think the stattos will look at Ali and think his value is high, wages high and availability low. Sell.
Depends on if anyone would actually pay what we want for Ali, and if kelleher is actually happy to stay.

Ali is making all the sounds of seeing out his contract, kelleher the opposite
 
Depends on if anyone would actually pay what we want for Ali, and if kelleher is actually happy to stay.

Ali is making all the sounds of seeing out his contract, kelleher the opposite
The club would also consider who would pay what we want for Kelleher because it’s entirely possible that it will be a main rival who can do it.
 
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