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Pay him what he wants!

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I stand by what I said a few days ago. There would have been anarchy if we sold both Mane and Salah in the same window.

That being said I said a few years ago we should have sold one of the trio so we weren't in this position in the first place.
We have anarchy this season just of a different sort. We’ve majorly fcuked up.
 
I think it’s a team problem. Klopp’s teams never rely solely on talented individuals to deliver - the whole team creates space for each other. With the individual decline of Mane, Salah and Firmino, Klopp started relying more and more on midfielders running beyond the front three to help - hence Elliott or Hendo or Trent being asked to play as these roaming box-to-box players - this worked up to a point when other teams realized we’ve sacrificed too much defensively and everything came crashing down.

Anyway, no reason to rip in Salah I think - he has declined the least among our great front 3, he can still be effective, but he won’t beat teams all by himself. With a solid structure behind him, he will score goals. Also for those who say he doesn’t do anything useful during the game - until Nunez came on, Salah was the only one regularly making runs in behind (and often being found by teammates). It didn’t come to anything in the game, but this kind of outlet provides oxygen to a team - remove it and you will be back in the late Rodgers type of tippy-tappy football without any threat or penetration.

Why is it that nunez is always an outlet? Or before that, Diaz? Salah is very poor at finding space and worse at doing anything with it right now. Our play is horrible, we aren't going to be serving up a million lethal passes. No one in our current forward line is clinical with the odd chances they are presented, including Salah, but Salah is offering far too little otherwise, and isn't working to adjust to this reality. As shit as we are, Nunez is creating great chances, every game.
 


Momo will be happy.

Too late— should have done at end of last season.

Let that be a lesson in not holding onto players beyond their peak, although, I guess it requires both the ability and ruthlessness to spot and and deal with a player’s decline.
 
Too late— should have done at end of season.

Let that be a lesson in not holding onto players beyond their peak.

PSG weren't buying him last summer (remains to be seen if they are actually interested this time) and he would have fetched far less with an expiring contract. I don't think it was a mistake.
 
We’ve seen plenty of examples of players going for good money with only one year left. Had he been available who knows which clubs would’ve moved to make it happen.
 
PSG weren't buying him last summer (remains to be seen if they are actually interested this time) and he would have fetched far less with an expiring contract. I don't think it was a mistake.
Last summer his agent was claiming that he wasn’t averse to staying in the Premier League which means there was more than PSG. Like I said, we’d have to be able to spot a player’s decline first— many were putting that poor form after the AFCON to being simply disappointed at missing winning it — and then acting on it.
 
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Last summer his agent was claiming that he wasn’t averse to staying in the Premier League which means there was more than PSG. Like I said, we’d have to be able to spot a player’s decline first— many were putting that poor form after the AFCON to being simply disappointed at missing winning it — and then acting on it.
Shut up Momo.
 
Better extend Milner another year so he can play up front, more likely to be fit than rest of our remaining forwards.
 
Sell Salah rebuild the squad is so stupid because at most we would have got is £60m as he was going into the last year of his contract. He doesn't have the edge in the past but he is still our best player.
If you want to ask question about money or the lack of it, don't do it by selling your best asset for £60m, who the fuck are going to get?
These are the problem
  1. Letting £100-200m worth of assets wind down their contracts is the first issue. Why do that if your policy is sell to buy?
  2. Paying Agents a really high fee
  3. Paying off the construction of the stadium in a short window, I think its 7 years
  4. A transfer policy which would over pay than enter into complications eg Moises, we were allegedly very interested but due to the number of agents he had we backed out, It seems if there's a little bit of red tape. We steer away.
The biggest issue is you have owners that don't really care

I've been complaining about this for years. It pisses me the fuck off. Ever fucking year the same thing. I even include Mane in this. How the hell do we let him go for 30 mill?
Emre Can, Moreno, Wijnaldum, Keita Firmino, Ox, Origi....
Sorry for harping on about this, but if we sold Origi after that champ league final we would have got like 50 mill.

We're good at getting good deals for young players though.
 
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Too late— should have done at end of last season.

Let that be a lesson in not holding onto players beyond their peak, although, I guess it requires both the ability and ruthlessness to spot and and deal with a player’s decline.

Last summer we'd have sold him with 12 months on his contract and got some lowball fee like we did with Mané. Which we would then have spent on Gakpo, I'm sure people would have been ecstatic had that happened.
 
I've been complaining about this for years. It pisses me the fuck off. Ever fucking year the same thing. I even include Mane in this. How the hell do we let him go for 30 mill?
Emre Can, Moreno, Wijnaldum, Keita Firmino, Ox, Origi....
Sorry for harping on about this, but if we sold Origi after that champ league final we would have got like 50 mill.

We're good at getting good deals for young players though.
Because they're on huge wages?
 
There is no point posting in this abomination of a thread.
For some reason Salah doesnt get the credit he’s due for what a player he has been for us, and now the general concensus is that he’s just shit. Its all very weird.

As I said, no point in discussing it.

Just wait and see once the team is in balance and improved next season. He’ll he banging them in again.
 
There is no point posting in this abomination of a thread.
For some reason Salah doesnt get the credit he’s due for what a player he has been for us, and now the general concensus is that he’s just shit. Its all very weird.

As I said, no point in discussing it.

Just wait and see once the team is in balance and improved next season. He’ll he banging them in again.

If he's a player that needs a great team to score goals, which I agree with, why the fuck did we keep him during a rebuild?

We desperately need him to find form, but he's getting worse and worse.
 
There is no point posting in this abomination of a thread.
For some reason Salah doesnt get the credit he’s due for what a player he has been for us, and now the general concensus is that he’s just shit. Its all very weird.

As I said, no point in discussing it.

Just wait and see once the team is in balance and improved next season. He’ll he banging them in again.

I don't think he's finished or anything, but all this hanging our hats on players past their best and hoping they rediscover form is mind-boggling to me. Should we get Robbie Fowler and Michael Owen in again because they were good once? Players decline. We're seeing it in living colour with this team. It was folly to think our chickens wouldn't come home to roost when we didn't come up with a development plan for this squad at its peak.
 
Mo is not a Gerrard or Ronaldo type player where he is going to drag an unbalanced team week in week out to glory. Salah needs a balanced team and good enough service which we have neither of at the moment.

Honestly I would have gotten rid of Firmino and used the wages to have kept Mane on instead. The way we press from the front is not the same anymore.
 
There is no point posting in this abomination of a thread.
For some reason Salah doesnt get the credit he’s due for what a player he has been for us, and now the general concensus is that he’s just shit. Its all very weird.

As I said, no point in discussing it.

Just wait and see once the team is in balance and improved next season. He’ll he banging them in again.
That’s the key word.

Over 30 and turned to shit. 300k+ and won’t influence games.

Cluster fuck of a decision.
 
There is no point posting in this abomination of a thread.
For some reason Salah doesnt get the credit he’s due for what a player he has been for us, and now the general concensus is that he’s just shit. Its all very weird.

As I said, no point in discussing it.

Just wait and see once the team is in balance and improved next season. He’ll he banging them in again.

He should've banged in a couple today dontcha think?
 
Is there anyone out there going to defend him?

He’s still getting into scoring positions…

Class is permanent, form is temporary…

He’ll come good…

He’s always scored in streaks…

It’s the lack of service…

nah…. I got nothing…
 
If he's a player that needs a great team to score goals, which I agree with, why the fuck did we keep him during a rebuild?

We desperately need him to find form, but he's getting worse and worse.
The answer is self-evident, and has been posted many times. But it's simpler to just say "why didn't we sell him" whilst ignoring all the blatantly obvious reasons why.
 
Two thirty million quid players sharing £300k/week would have us in a better situation. Even letting him go on a free in the summer will be better than us having to spunk £300k a week on him. He’s finished.
 
Imagine having 2 Nunez up front - it’d be entertaining at least.
 
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