I'm not sure but happy to be whooshed.
Make or break season for Nunez?
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I'm not sure but happy to be whooshed.
I think our scouting team thought he’d be more effective down the left than he has been which put a spanner in the works.
One blocker to getting the best out of him is that he needs space to run in to and only the top 6 teams are likely to do that and it’s risky to start him over a false 9.
One blocker to getting the best out of him is that he needs space to run in to and only the top 6 teams are likely to do that and it’s risky to start him over a false 9.
Origi wasn't a big goalscorer, but a scorer of big goals. He played his part.
When Nunez hits his stride he will rock our world.
Yes, I also thought about this. We often face the low block, and he is more effective on the counter. But also, he is not useless in the box, and is decent in the air and getting on the end of crosses.
Yes. It is tempting to say we should try and recoup most of the fee, if we can.
Sell him to the Saudi's.
I think it's about as mixed as on here. Hope he proves me wrong, doubt it. West Ham are offering 40 million for Solanke, so maybe all's not lost. I'd take that for Nunez and move on.
I think we could change our formation and make him work, but that is risky as there isn't really anyone else who could deputise that role. I rate him as a forward but he is not showing a lot of progress in areas that are important for Klopp. If he's happy to be a bit of a super sub & EL player until he hits great form then that could work.
Just a bunch of hopeium
40m for Solanke? I saw that in the other thread and thought it was some joke I wasn’t in on.
I’d definitely take our money back on Nunez if it was offered now.
Not showing a lot of progress? He's just had his first full preseason, after landing here during that full blown shit show of last season, and he's not started a game, being restricted to just a few minutes! We have no idea if any progress had been made or not TBH.
That's the spirit. Let FSG bank it.
Divisive players sometimes come good in the end but it's kinda rare. Firmino and Henderson being the exceptions that became crucial in the title winning side. It's early days but the fact that he's starting on the bench so far this season says a lot about what klopp thinks of him. He must be underperforming in training as much as on the pitch.
Or maybe it's an integration thing with a completely new midfield?
He's a totally different option to any of our other forwards and having tactical options when the one we're using is off can't be a bad thing.
Since his goals per minutes played is amongst the best in our team there's no down side for me. I actually love our forward line TBH, as an entity it's the most powerful and varied in the league.
I think part of or more recent problems stemmed from our predictably and when Divock went we had no alternative shape to win with.
We didn't pay £80m that's a Red Top headline.
Yep. Part of why we're considered to have such a powerful front line is the incredible variety.
So what? We paid loads for him, more than anyone else in that attack, he was clearly bought to start, it's been a year, and he isn't. Because he isn't as good as we thought he would be. If he was he would be starting. And no, it's not because we've got a new midfield.
Clean slate for this season, but I also think it's make or break for him.
It's not the amount of goals, because he just about averages the same as Firmino.
Like others have mentioned he just doesn't fit into the way we play. Some are saying that we have to adapt to him, but it doesn't make sense to me.
If 4 of our attackers are happy playing the way we are, why change it up for one?
It's not the amount of goals, because he just about averages the same as Firmino.
Like others have mentioned he just doesn't fit into the way we play. Some are saying that we have to adapt to him, but it doesn't make sense to me.
If 4 of our attackers are happy playing the way we are, why change it up for one?
So what is it makes you sound like a rival fan inflating the cost to underline your 'point' and have a dig. Let's just add £20m to every players transfer fee.
And no you don't know the reason he hasn't started. It could be tactical, integration, linguistic (can't see why but we know it's a Klopp 'thing') or yes, form. As fans we're not privy to the selection reasoning.
Why do you always ignore his goals per game? Isn't that what he's there for? Isn't that why fans rightly give Jota a free pass when he's playing crap?
His terms are that if he plays 60 games he will have cost us 77 million quid. He's already cost us 70. It could rise to 85. It's a lot. I'm not inflating his cost, just saying what it will be if he does actually play and we win a cup or two.
As for his goals record last season, he played more often than not and scored 9 premier league goals. No, I'm not impressed. He's very wasteful, this is far more the issue for me. Other players would score more goals with the chances he gets. I dunno but I'd take a bet that he's massively underperforming compared to xG.
He may well improve, but he doesn't seem to have the football brain we've come to expect in our forwards under Klopp, so I doubt it.
I think you're missing the point by a mile. If progress had been made, significant anyway, one could argue he would be in the team, instead of coming off the bench and still showing signs of not really following orders (poor pressing, inconsistent touch and movement). You can't argue that we have no idea how much he's progressed because of his limited game time, when his lack of game time is a direct result of what his manager sees day in and day out.
One could argue that, one could also argue that isn't the reason. It's an assumption. And I'd not so easily dismiss the new midfield as an influencing factor, or the opposition or that maybe other forwards have shown more (but that doesn't mean he's not been good) or that for tactical reasons Jota or Diaz or Gakpo were chosen ahead of him.
My point is that just because he hasn't started that doesn't make him poor, the inference some are making. I'm not bothered whether he starts or not but I love having him as a tactical option and what he cost is irrelevant in that context.
Some are always moaning about how we have no depth in certain positions and now we do they are moaning that he should be starting, based solely on his fee.
Jeebus, the stats. Salah batters him for goals per game last season. And Nunez scored 9 with xG of 13.8. Speaks for itself. Salah scored 19 with an xG of 21.2. So Salah's worst ever season batters Nunez's first ever season, but let's hope he improves.
No-one is moaning that he should be starting, I'm glad he isn't. I'm saying that our record signing would obviously be expected to start if he was as good as we thought he was when we bought him. But he isn't.
No-one is moaning that he should be starting, I'm glad he isn't. I'm saying that our record signing would obviously be expected to start if he was as good as we thought he was when we bought him. But he isn't.
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