Thought he was a left back at the time..
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Thought he was a left back at the time..
Rosco = WUM
Only a deduction.
Only a deduction.
The comparisons are all mental.
I get what you're saying - lack of top flight experience is not a barrier to success. But the difference with all of the players mentioned is their clubs were picking them and playing them - not loaning them out and they were all doing things at 17 that Alberto did at 20. And they were all getting plenty of underage international experience, Bale was already starting for the full international team at 17.
The comparison we should be looking for is 20 year olds with less than a dozen first team games who were good on loan at a lower division. I can't think of an obvious one
I get what you're saying - lack of top flight experience is not a barrier to success. But the difference with all of the players mentioned is their clubs were picking them and playing them - not loaning them out and they were all doing things at 17 that Alberto did at 20. And they were all getting plenty of underage international experience, Bale was already starting for the full international team at 17.
The comparison we should be looking for is 20 year olds with less than a dozen first team games who were good on loan at a lower division. I can't think of an obvious one
Good.
We all have our doubts, some more than others clearly , but all we can do is hope that he will be successful. Personally, I can never be down on signing a young player, mainly because a player under 23 or so is never a finished product.
We've seen players get dramatically better, and dramatically worse in short periods of time. Some legends, some goats, and tons of role players who got the job done. I don't give a damn where he's played, what he's done, or who he's being compared to(well, a little), I just want to see how much he can grow in the coming seasons and develop rather than considering what's on display now his ceiling instead of his floor.
It's easy to nitpick signings, it's hard to be patient and actually believe that they can be what we want them to be, even moreso because of the types of players who have played the positions before them for our club.
Also, he really can't be less useful than Downing who has 91 caps for us in two seasons.
There's certainly a breed of
He didnt want Robbie Keane to succeed
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We've had homegrown youngsters (without Pemiership experience) and seasoned internationals (with Premiership experience) who arrived and didn't perform for a variety of reasons but there were others who did. Its up to the player to make a difference and show that he deserves a first team place.
Comparisons won't really make a difference. Each player should be judged on their own merits whatever they are. It ultimately comes down to how the lad performs in a RED shirt. Writing any player off before he had a chance to perform is just plain stupid. Give the lad a chance.
Ha ha ... no he hates Keane, but would have happily seen him score 30 goals and win us the league (Right @Rosco?)
I cheered for him in lots of games (when he did his trademark airkick)
The question should be;Is Suso better than LAR?
LAR arrival will hinder Suso chances.
LAR arrival will hinder Suso chances.
We need comparisons to have some idea of what the best and worst case scenarios are.
Oncy has come up with a good comparator - different positions, but both unathletic player with good shooting technique with a similar career up to 20.
One without great pace, agility. Etc physical skills.
Are you going to tell me players are the same speed again?
Can you see what you're typing?
What definition of 'athlete' are you working under Ross?
Rosco, I disagree.
The comparisons are only to stir debate and achieve nothing. Price tag is an indicator of absolutely nothing. We have overpaid for players who have underachieved and underpaid for players who became absolute legends.
One that acknowledges there are differences in speed, strength, agility etc between people involved in the same game.
Beckham had no pace or agility - he lacked those athletic qualities. Therefore he was not particularly athletic. Compare him to the man who replaced him, who is an athlete. World of difference.
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He was first choice for a team playing in the 2nd tier of Spanish football. Same as Walcott. It's just that it happened to be for a team that didn't own them. And not only was he a regular, he was one of the stand out performers amongst a very talented youth side during that season.
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