Gerrard is a better CM and Scholes was a better attacking mid.
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In honesty my only real problem with Fwank is that complete fucking southern twats like Martin Samuel would have him higher in the pecking order of greatness that Stevie.... I think it was fucking criminal the way Stevie was overlooked for captaincy and shuffled out to the LEFT wing for England just so we could play Fwank etc....
He is a fine player and his record shows that but IMHO nowhere near as great as Stevie...its that simple....
By the same token i never understood that Scholesy love in the press and others went in for... Personally i prefer my legendary superstar midfielders to be obviously brilliant not quietly brilliant.... like he was a collectors item or an acquired taste... he was just a ginger prick who fouled people a lot and scored the odd volley as far as I could see....
Personally I never really had any problem with the Stevie G version of brilliance, none of that subtle shit, just out and out raping teams with power, pace, strength,determination, and vicious deadeye shooting from stupifying range. Thats enough really.... and then on top of that he could "play a bit".
Nah... fuck Fwank Lampard...good but...
The best, and I mean the very best English midfielder we have seen for 20 years in the UK is Steven Gerrard.
He is a fine player and his record shows that but IMHO nowhere near as great as Stevie...its that simple....
By the same token i never understood that Scholesy love in the press and others went in for... Personally i prefer my legendary superstar midfielders to be obviously brilliant not quietly brilliant.... like he was a collectors item or an acquired taste... he was just a ginger prick who fouled people a lot and scored the odd volley as far as I could see....
Personally I never really had any problem with the Stevie G version of brilliance, none of that subtle shit, just out and out raping teams with power, pace, strength,determination, and vicious deadeye shooting from stupifying range. Thats enough really.... and then on top of that he could "play a bit".
Nah... fuck Fwank Lampard...good but...
The best, and I mean the very best English midfielder we have seen for 20 years in the UK is Steven Gerrard.
This man he knows. He was referred to as "Dead Mum".
Well said. Far too many Chelsea lovers and Fergie appreciators in here. Bing out the Inquisition Pontiff Silver Sean!
No avatar innit. No one loves a red square.........cept the Russians and Chinese obv.
And noobie drinkers.
Why Lampard is better than Scholes... and I'm proud my old room-mate Frank has made it as a football great
By JAMIE CARRAGHER
PUBLISHED: 23:00, 13 September 2013 | UPDATED: 09:04, 14 September 2013
Will we ever get there? It’s a question Frank Lampard and I would ask each other when we were starting out. We were room-mates when we played together for England’s Under 21s — he was the captain and I was his deputy.
We were partners in midfield and that meant spending a lot of time together at our base in Hertfordshire at Sopwell House.
Both of us loved playing for the Under 21s and relished our responsibilities. But, each time we joined up, there would be a sense of longing. Back then, the Under 21s would travel around with the seniors to games. We would see all the household names and were desperate to play alongside them.
Back in the day: Frank Lampard (left) and Jamie Carragher (right) have known each other for a long time
To the top: Lampard at last won the Champions League with Chelsea against Bayern Munich in 2012
I have to admit, my overwhelming ambition at the time was to get established with Liverpool and win honours. If I did that, I was sure England recognition would follow. Frank, though, was anxious to represent England and that was evident in the conversations we used to have in our room.
After all, a number of young players had been fast-tracked. Steven Gerrard, Michael Owen and Rio Ferdinand all quickly progressed through the Under 21s but Frank and I served our time — I won 27 caps, he got 19 — and did it the hard way. It is why I have great admiration for him for becoming England’s latest centurion.
This latest achievement puts the gloss on his glittering career. I regard him as the greatest player in Chelsea’s history; better than Drogba, Osgood, Hudson and the rest.
All-time great: Frank Lampard is Chelsea's best ever player - beating out the likes of Didier Drogba (right)
Yet when I first met Frank, he wasn’t even the best player at West Ham! At the national school trials in 1992, we all knew who Frank was because he was the son of a footballer but the boy at his club who was supposed to be destined for stardom was a tricky attacking player called Lee Hodges.
As it turned out, neither of them won a place at Lilleshall — Hodges, for the record, ended up spending his career largely in non-League — so our next meeting was when Liverpool beat West Ham in the FA Youth Cup final in 1996.
We won the first leg at Upton Park 2-0 and eventually completed the job at Anfield but Frank caused us to panic in the return leg when he scored a first-minute goal in front of the Kop.
It was the type of strike that became his trademark, a thumping drive into the roof of the net from the edge of the box. Why has he become so good at it? Practice has made him perfect.
After every training session with England he would religiously strike five or 10 penalties. He would do extra running and spend time on his technique.
Spot on: Lampard would practice penalty kicks after every training session and it's paid off
Those good habits remain. He is one of only a few players to perfect the Cristiano Ronaldo free-kick, striking the ball with his laces. He has only perfected that in the last couple of years, so it shows that even at 35 you can keep on improving.
I have always said Steven Gerrard was born world class, whereas Frank became world class. That is not a slight. It should serve as an inspiration. He has had to contend with some knocks down the years but he kept bettering himself. His mental strength is one of his greatest assets.
Frank has a catalogue of golden moments and, for that reason, I have him behind Steven but ahead of Paul Scholes in my list of the Premier League’s top three English midfielders.
No 1: Carragher hailed Steven Gerrard as the best English midfielder ever to play in the Premier League
I know Barcelona’s Xavi described Scholes as the best midfielder of the last 20 years but Frank has influenced more big games — his goals clinched Chelsea’s first title in 2005, he has won them an FA Cup final and scored in a Champions League final.
He has also played more and scored more for England, and his tally of 166 Premier League goals — the highest by a midfielder — outstrips the 107 Scholes scored.
Mentioning Scholes brings us back to England. When we became regulars under Sven Goran Eriksson, the rapport Frank and I enjoyed with the Under 21s had diluted — a consequence of the rivalry that had escalated between Liverpool and Chelsea. We were not as close.
My respect for him, however, remained and I was adamant he merited playing alongside Gerrard. If anything, Eriksson made a mess of whether Gerrard and Lampard could be a partnership. Of course they could have. A strong manager would have told Steven to play the holding role — that is more in his make-up — and to let Frank go forward.
Bad move: Sven Goran Eriksson (second left) did not utilise Lampard and Gerrard to their full capacities
But he didn’t. He fudged it. That’s why Scholes ended up out on the left and eventually in international retirement.
This is not an attack on Scholes — it is anything but. It is just important to illustrate what Lampard has achieved as I don’t believe he has had the credit he deserves.
Great talent, single-mindedness and outstanding numbers: four FA Cups, three league titles, a Champions League and Europa League winner, 100 caps and, to the envy of many strikers, a ratio of a goal every three appearances for England.
When I look back at my career, I feel great pride but Frank achieved much more. Without doubt, he did what he set out to do at Sopwell House. He got there.
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By JAMIE CARRAGHER
PUBLISHED: 23:00, 13 September 2013 | UPDATED: 09:04, 14 September 2013
Will we ever get there? It’s a question Frank Lampard and I would ask each other when we were starting out. We were room-mates when we played together for England’s Under 21s — he was the captain and I was his deputy.
We were partners in midfield and that meant spending a lot of time together at our base in Hertfordshire at Sopwell House.
Both of us loved playing for the Under 21s and relished our responsibilities. But, each time we joined up, there would be a sense of longing. Back then, the Under 21s would travel around with the seniors to games. We would see all the household names and were desperate to play alongside them.
Back in the day: Frank Lampard (left) and Jamie Carragher (right) have known each other for a long time
To the top: Lampard at last won the Champions League with Chelsea against Bayern Munich in 2012
I have to admit, my overwhelming ambition at the time was to get established with Liverpool and win honours. If I did that, I was sure England recognition would follow. Frank, though, was anxious to represent England and that was evident in the conversations we used to have in our room.
After all, a number of young players had been fast-tracked. Steven Gerrard, Michael Owen and Rio Ferdinand all quickly progressed through the Under 21s but Frank and I served our time — I won 27 caps, he got 19 — and did it the hard way. It is why I have great admiration for him for becoming England’s latest centurion.
This latest achievement puts the gloss on his glittering career. I regard him as the greatest player in Chelsea’s history; better than Drogba, Osgood, Hudson and the rest.
All-time great: Frank Lampard is Chelsea's best ever player - beating out the likes of Didier Drogba (right)
Yet when I first met Frank, he wasn’t even the best player at West Ham! At the national school trials in 1992, we all knew who Frank was because he was the son of a footballer but the boy at his club who was supposed to be destined for stardom was a tricky attacking player called Lee Hodges.
As it turned out, neither of them won a place at Lilleshall — Hodges, for the record, ended up spending his career largely in non-League — so our next meeting was when Liverpool beat West Ham in the FA Youth Cup final in 1996.
We won the first leg at Upton Park 2-0 and eventually completed the job at Anfield but Frank caused us to panic in the return leg when he scored a first-minute goal in front of the Kop.
It was the type of strike that became his trademark, a thumping drive into the roof of the net from the edge of the box. Why has he become so good at it? Practice has made him perfect.
After every training session with England he would religiously strike five or 10 penalties. He would do extra running and spend time on his technique.
Spot on: Lampard would practice penalty kicks after every training session and it's paid off
Those good habits remain. He is one of only a few players to perfect the Cristiano Ronaldo free-kick, striking the ball with his laces. He has only perfected that in the last couple of years, so it shows that even at 35 you can keep on improving.
I have always said Steven Gerrard was born world class, whereas Frank became world class. That is not a slight. It should serve as an inspiration. He has had to contend with some knocks down the years but he kept bettering himself. His mental strength is one of his greatest assets.
Frank has a catalogue of golden moments and, for that reason, I have him behind Steven but ahead of Paul Scholes in my list of the Premier League’s top three English midfielders.
No 1: Carragher hailed Steven Gerrard as the best English midfielder ever to play in the Premier League
I know Barcelona’s Xavi described Scholes as the best midfielder of the last 20 years but Frank has influenced more big games — his goals clinched Chelsea’s first title in 2005, he has won them an FA Cup final and scored in a Champions League final.
He has also played more and scored more for England, and his tally of 166 Premier League goals — the highest by a midfielder — outstrips the 107 Scholes scored.
Mentioning Scholes brings us back to England. When we became regulars under Sven Goran Eriksson, the rapport Frank and I enjoyed with the Under 21s had diluted — a consequence of the rivalry that had escalated between Liverpool and Chelsea. We were not as close.
My respect for him, however, remained and I was adamant he merited playing alongside Gerrard. If anything, Eriksson made a mess of whether Gerrard and Lampard could be a partnership. Of course they could have. A strong manager would have told Steven to play the holding role — that is more in his make-up — and to let Frank go forward.
Bad move: Sven Goran Eriksson (second left) did not utilise Lampard and Gerrard to their full capacities
But he didn’t. He fudged it. That’s why Scholes ended up out on the left and eventually in international retirement.
This is not an attack on Scholes — it is anything but. It is just important to illustrate what Lampard has achieved as I don’t believe he has had the credit he deserves.
Great talent, single-mindedness and outstanding numbers: four FA Cups, three league titles, a Champions League and Europa League winner, 100 caps and, to the envy of many strikers, a ratio of a goal every three appearances for England.
When I look back at my career, I feel great pride but Frank achieved much more. Without doubt, he did what he set out to do at Sopwell House. He got there.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-Paul-Scholes-Im-proud-him.html#ixzz2erO6Rp6X
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