He's not of course but people were still trying to lay the blame for our defense's unease today solely at his feet despite the fact that we had our third choice goalkeeper in the starting line up.
As the saying goes "Haters gonna hate"
Enough is enough
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As the saying goes "Haters gonna hate"
Thought Agger was just as culpable for the goal as Carra was.
Carra is now well past his best and he must know it. He is having to resort to fouling to stop opponents and I wouldn't like to see him in the Final because he could well give away too many free kicks and possibly a penalty.
Unfortunately I think Kenny is a bit sentimental and hasn't got the streak of ruthlessness that a successful manager needs. I wouldn't mind betting that Carra will be one of the first names on Kenny's team sheet for Wembley.
Unfortunately I think Kenny is a bit sentimental and hasn't got the streak of ruthlessness that a successful manager needs. I wouldn't mind betting that Carra will be one of the first names on Kenny's team sheet for Wembley.
He is like an old soldier fading away but still soldiering on bravely. Getting slower and thereby playing people onside (perhaps that allowed Everton that goal) because he was 3 to 4 yeards behind the other 3 defenders!
Yes let him lift the cup with Stevie together would be a recognition of his gallant service for the club if we do win the FA.
Yes let him lift the cup with Stevie together would be a recognition of his gallant service for the club if we do win the FA.
There's a fair bit of exageration in this (and other, related) thread. Carra isn't first choice anymore and was the one mainly at fault for the goal yesterday and a few others this season . However, he is our most experienced central defender and will continue to have a role to play this, and next, season.
I wouldn't want to see Carra leave.
Some people always seem keen to move players on when they get older. Whatever anyone might say now it was exactly the same with Sami Hyypia. He came in for some massive stick on here at one time. However, there are times when you need experience.
Carra appears well aware that he won't be playing every week. If he is happy with that then we shouldn't undervalue having someone with that kind of experience as back up.
Skrtel and Agger are first choice, and if it turns out that Carra is past it then we also have Coates coming through, so why the rush to ship Carra out right now?
Some people always seem keen to move players on when they get older. Whatever anyone might say now it was exactly the same with Sami Hyypia. He came in for some massive stick on here at one time. However, there are times when you need experience.
Carra appears well aware that he won't be playing every week. If he is happy with that then we shouldn't undervalue having someone with that kind of experience as back up.
Skrtel and Agger are first choice, and if it turns out that Carra is past it then we also have Coates coming through, so why the rush to ship Carra out right now?
It's a tricky one.
Should we really be paying a large weekly wage for a player who is in effect our 3rd/4th choice CB?
I'd love us to keep him with us for a number of reasons, but i can fully understand why the powers that be might be relieved if he decided to move on.
Should we really be paying a large weekly wage for a player who is in effect our 3rd/4th choice CB?
I'd love us to keep him with us for a number of reasons, but i can fully understand why the powers that be might be relieved if he decided to move on.
When a player gets past 30 his experience continues to build, while his physical ability starts to decline. There is a crossover point where the value of his experience is counterbalanced by the disadvantages of his declining physique. In my opinion Carra is past that point. The Premier League is incredibly demanding and managers have to be ruthless when facing up to the pressure. I seriously doubt whether Kenny has that ruthlessness.
I don't want him around the club either. I can't see what he has to offer in a Liverpool moving forward. We don't need a Phil Thompson type to shout out how much the red jersey means. I believe Carra is a liability to the whole squad at the moment, and certainly is not a person the squad gather around in the dressing room either. To prgress his own career as well he need to find another place with other inputs.
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Sorry,but that's one idiotic post right here.
fingers crossed the next few weeks sees the CB of skrtel and agger. if kenny wants to take agger off for carra (to protect him) late in games, fine.
True enough I guess, but I am pretty sure he has only one year left on his contract. I doubt he will get another one, so think it might be worth hanging onto him.
As I said before, Skrtel and Agger would be first choice, neither of them are exactly old, so buying another centre back who will want to be playing all the time won't really work. Agger is still pretty unreliable, so that is enough to give Coates enough matches next season, and then we have Carra available to fill in where required if necessary.
If it turns out that he is not getting games, or if another young player emerges and looks good then fine, its probably only for a year anyway. If we actively tried to sell him at the end of the season then chances are we would end up paying off a chunk of his wages anyway
Really? 'Certainly'? And how much time have you spent in the dressing room or training ground then?
I'd forget wilson. I would say kelly and wisdom. I think next season will be carra's last season as a regular and I do think he will get a lot of games due to uefa, CC and injuries.
Who is forgetting them? If they are good enough they will come through ahead of Carra, which is what I said.
Yeah really. I admire him for the foot he has put in and the job he has done. But in my mind we are better served without him around. I am full of respect for the lad, but I don't see it as they way forward. Carra is a strong person and having him around will hamper the development of others as there will allways be a "correct" version of things based on his presence.
By all accounts Carra is a genuine student of the game with a lot of knowledge. I don't really know what position we can find for him in the club. If things were different perhaps he could drop down to the Academy / reserves and coach one of the sides there but that setup looks pretty well organized and locked down right now. Perhaps he'd be better off starting in the lower divisions and then coming back if he does well.
Exactly, every player moving into management should first prove himself. I really don't like to see players being promoted to manager or assistant manager without any real experience.
He obviously has knowledge about football. But he is not tactically very strong when he plays. He knows the value of being in the way foroppositions, but to me he is such limited as a footballer that i will struggle to see a great potential coach/leader there. I want our youngsters to learn from others.
Add Ferguson and Wenger to that.
it will be interesting to see who kenny starts at centre back with nothing to play for in the league and agger back from injury.
It aint gonna be Coates that's for sure.
We've got one upcoming game where I expect to see reserve/squad players take part. It's Fulham at home, 4 days before the final.
Ferguson's record suggests he wasn't a bad player actually!
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