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We've been crying out for bastards in our team because we're too nice, now we get an edge we're sympathizing with the plazzy cunts! Fuck them and their dog.
I don't think he's sympathising - Just saying it like was. He should have been off. He wasn't and it worked out great. Yay!
 
After watching a bit of the rugby, and how well it seems to work there(most of the time), it's insane that there isn't video refs, and proper retrospective action when necessary in football.

I don't hold out too much hope, but it'd be great if the new FIFA boss was actually progressive.
 
It was entirely cynical, and he was fortunate not to be sent off for a second yellow. Chelsea were quite correct to be aggrieved.
Chelsea are the most cynical team in the PL. Costa frequently gets away with murder and they just bleat about being victimised. Hypocrites. There is no way CFC should feel aggrieved, even if Lucas had taken a machete and decapitated him.
 
Chelsea have nothing to moan about.

[article]Chelsea striker Diego Costa will not face disciplinary action after appearing to kick out at Liverpool's Martin Skrtel in Saturday's 3-1 defeat - according to English Football Association sources.

Referee Mark Clattenburg is understood to have seen the incident and opted against issuing a caution, meaning there can be no retrospective sanction by the authorities.

The two players had fallen to the ground after a challenge by Spanish international Costa.

"I think it is a clear red card," former World Cup final referee Howard Webb said. "He commits a foul on Martin Skrtel, then there is a little kick. The second action is a clear act of violent conduct. Diego Costa is a lucky boy. (from the beeb)
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Chelsea have nothing to moan about.

[article]Chelsea striker Diego Costa will not face disciplinary action after appearing to kick out at Liverpool's Martin Skrtel in Saturday's 3-1 defeat - according to English Football Association sources.

Referee Mark Clattenburg is understood to have seen the incident and opted against issuing a caution, meaning there can be no retrospective sanction by the authorities.

The two players had fallen to the ground after a challenge by Spanish international Costa.

"I think it is a clear red card," former World Cup final referee Howard Webb said. "He commits a foul on Martin Skrtel, then there is a little kick. The second action is a clear act of violent conduct. Diego Costa is a lucky boy. (from the beeb)
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Skrtel's lack of reaction helped him out there, if he'd made a meal of it and complained vociferously, I think there might have been a retrospective ban. It's not much of a kick, maybe even reflexive, but Costa's such a snidey, dirty player, you should assume the worst and ban him anyway.

Ah well.
 
It was hard to see on the telly when you're a bit tense about the game, but did anyone work out why Clyne often seemed to be either too far ahead of where a pass was played, or too far behind? I couldn't really see enough of the play to know if it was more down to him or more down to the passes that he received, but, especially in the first half, he seemed to be a couple of yards away from where the pass was played. It was very frustrating to watch.

My own view on this is that Clyne was one of the players who suffered most from Rodgers' increasingly desperate last few weeks. He likes to attack as well as defend (and is good at both) but Rodgers clearly told him to play very conservatively during that time, and I suspect that's got him overthinking stuff he would previously have done far more by instinct. With a bit of luck Klopp will set him free again, both mentally and tactically.
 
2 Nice goals on the bridge is a 10er. Then he get reduced to 9 for being a little pants prior to the goals. 9 is correct!!!!

What he has got to do now is really build on this and have a run of games in which he genuinely stars. I know it sounds mean after that match-winning performance, but he's been great before only to fade back into frustrating inconsistency. Fingers crossed now Klopp keeps the pressure on and he really goes for it.
 
I love this notion that no action can be taken if a ref says he saw something rather than missed it. In the ordinary world that would be considered bad judgement and the ref would get penalised, too. In the mad bad world of the Premier League it's an excuse to ignore the whole thing.

The mad, bad world of the FA and its whole ridiculous disciplinary machinery, you mean. I heard one Darren Bailey, head of that side of their set-up, interviewed about this once and I swear he wouldn't have sounded out of place as a Soviet commissar.
 
I love this notion that no action can be taken if a ref says he saw something rather than missed it. In the ordinary world that would be considered bad judgement and the ref would get penalised, too. In the mad bad world of the Premier League it's an excuse to ignore the whole thing.

It works like that in the judical world too. (well in most of the Commonwealth)

If a tribunal or decision-making body has taken something into consideration and decided on a certain course of action, you can't question their discretion unless it's an absolutely crazy decision.

But if they failed to take something into account that they ought to, or took something irrelevant into account, then you'd have a case for judicial review.

It's one of the great incentives for people to write down everything they observed even if they'd made up their minds long ago.
 
Skrtel's lack of reaction helped him out there, if he'd made a meal of it and complained vociferously, I think there might have been a retrospective ban. It's not much of a kick, maybe even reflexive, but Costa's such a snidey, dirty player, you should assume the worst and ban him anyway.

Ah well.
I wondered as well if Lucas got the benefit of the doubt because Skrtel didn't make a meal of his incident with Costa, and Liverpool players didn't surround the ref about it. The two incidents happened fairly close to each other.
 
I crave for the return of the perfectly weighted through balls from Coutinho. He seems to have lost that, as he is now more sloppy and rushed when trying to play others in.
 
It works like that in the judical world too. (well in most of the Commonwealth)

If a tribunal or decision-making body has taken something into consideration and decided on a certain course of action, you can't question their discretion unless it's an absolutely crazy decision.

But if they failed to take something into account that they ought to, or took something irrelevant into account, then you'd have a case for judicial review.

It's one of the great incentives for people to write down everything they observed even if they'd made up their minds long ago.

It wouldn't be enough for the initial decision-making body simply to say they had directed their minds to the issue though. They'd have to explain the reason or reasons for their decision in order for the question of review/no review to be decided properly. The FA on the other hand merely ask if the referee saw the incident. There's no test to decide whether his subsequent decision was reasonable or not.
 
I crave for the return of the perfectly weighted through balls from Coutinho. He seems to have lost that, as he is now more sloppy and rushed when trying to play others in.

Teams are playing deeper against us and we don't have players making runs as good as Suarez, Sturridge or even Sterling were making ahead of him. It doesn't full excuse him, but it's definitely a factor.
 
What he has got to do now is really build on this and have a run of games in which he genuinely stars. I know it sounds mean after that match-winning performance, but he's been great before only to fade back into frustrating inconsistency. Fingers crossed now Klopp keeps the pressure on and he really goes for it.

I agree with the gist of this but I think Klopp's method it to take the pressure off him.
 
Well, what agreat result by the team, but what an appalling response by Mourinho. The guy is a disgrace as a man as well as a manager. The most childish behaviour I've seen by a top manager ever. I thought the BT pundits should have condemned it outright instead of desperately trying to seem respectful. It was plainly out of order, and at least McManaman noted the lack of humility, but it was way worse than that. The little translator with a chip on his shoulder was exposed there.

As for us, well full credit for showing the fight to get back into the game and then win it. The third goal was one of the most surreal things I've seen at a match for years - it was as if time stood still and the defenders were frozen, but great for Benteke and of course for Coutinho.

And it was great to CARE again. I've had so long just watching calmly and stoically it was a bit weird to suddenly feel the heart pumping hard and the excitement rush back. Long may it continue!

Too right - Chelsea were champions, playing at home - they managed two/three shots on target? in the entire game and all they can moan about is that the ref played 30 secs too long in the first half and that the opposition didn't have a man sent off (in spite of all Chelsea's efforts to make that happen) - why, can they not beat eleven men???

I would have been mortally embarrassed if a LFC manager had acted like that - just sums up his (and Chelsea's) lack of class

Hugely pleasing display by the Reds and our new management team
 
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I agree with the gist of this but I think Klopp's method it to take the pressure off him.

He's a bit more crafty and complex than that, I think. He takes the pressure off many of them publicly whilst doing the opposite privately (or semi-privately). Take Ibe - very laid-back when talking about him but he's on his case non-stop at training and on the sidelines during games (he gave him another bollocking for not getting ready quickly enough for his sub appearance on Saturday). And then there's Milner - there's all this 'Milly is a model professional' stuff in the pressers but apparently he was screaming at him so much during the first half that at one point Milner shouted back 'Will you just let me get on with it!' (then Klopp hugged him at the end like they were great mates). So with Coutinho, I suspect he's getting his fair share of kicks up the bum along with the public pats on the back, which is as it should be.
 
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