Brighton (A) Sat 14th of January
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It's doubly disappointing because (a) he looked the biz before his first big injury and (b) even this season he's actually improved when covering at RB, which may be part of the reason why we didn't sell him earlier (I like big Nat but he'd be dire out wide). It doesn't look like the situation is rescuable now though.
Don't disagree but if we weren't going to sell Gomez, we should have sold Phillips. It's farcical how little we've used him, given our struggles. It's equally farcical not to cash in on him at the peak of his value, given our need to raise revenue for incoming players.
We need a three-pack of them.
He did have some decent games at RB earlier in the season, but was it really worth keeping him (and foregoing the sizable fee he would fetch as an English international CB) to be a 3rd choice RB - Klopp always preferred Milner as a back-up, he is much closer to the type of FB he likes than Gomez. And I feel bad for Big Nat - we talk about loyalty, but what about a player who was positively heroic to help us get to 3rd with a makeshift defence, passed every test even in CL and still gets no games, while Gomez this season has been making horrendous, embarrassing mistakes almost every time he took the pitch as a CB. He made Danny Welbeck look like Pele today.
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NO THATS A LUDICROUS SUGGESTION
Was not all that noticeable - some nice moments, but overall McAllister stood out more. But they all were head and shoulders above our midfielders. We’re past the point of thinking one signing will fix most of our problems. We needed a “Caicedo” 2 years ago when Gini left.
Problem is, Ramsay is another crock
Impossible to judge anyone based on their game against us given how shit we are right now.
That said, Brighton as a team were very good.
Ali doesn’t want to play in goal, Robbo at left back……
You can see where I’m going with this.
Sack the lot of them.
From the offal.
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Jürgen Klopp offered a frank assessment of his team’s performance as Liverpool were defeated 3-0 by Brighton & Hove Albion in the Premier League on Saturday.
The Reds were well beaten at the Amex Stadium, with the home team scoring three times in the second half via a brace from Solly March and a late strike from Danny Welbeck.
Read on for a summary of what the manager had to say in his post-match press conference.
On the result and Liverpool’s performance…
Congratulations to Brighton, they played an outstanding game. I really thought in moments we made it a little bit too easy for them, but in general they played outstanding and we didn't. We tried to help the boys with slightly different organisation. I actually thought it could have worked pretty well; we had moments where it worked well, where put them under pressure, but in all situations when we won the ball we lost the balls in the moment much too easy. That’s the main problem, so it means we never get this something going. Brighton was better for the whole 90 minutes, but it is 0-0 at half-time, so it is allowed for us as well to play not a good half. We have a kind of result and let’s go from there, but then obviously the second half started with the worst possible start. Being 1-0 down and the game it was already clear already that one team is ready play a really good game and one team fights with themselves pretty much to get something going. That's then the worst possible start and that's what everybody saw then. The problems are the same like last week when we spoke about it: we don't win the key battles on the pitch, the key challenges, and we give the ball away too easily. That's difficult to organise protection for losing balls you should not lose, it is not easy. Fully my responsibility because I had an idea with a different formation and it didn’t work out. So, [I am] sorry.
On whether he felt the team understood the messages given to them ahead of the game…
The week looked like everybody got what I said, to be honest. Bringing it on the pitch is then probably… you face a team full of confidence and joy and stuff like this and we need to have key moments as well where we put the ball over the line. We had chances I think for 2-1 if I am right. We had these moments, but there was no moment in the game where we could get a little lift and go from there. Then doubt comes and it is horrible to watch, to be honest. I think everybody with a Brighton shirt on or a Brighton heart enjoyed the game a lot and I don’t think anybody with a Liverpool heart enjoyed it for a second. I think the players listened, I am pretty sure, but I know where you are coming from and I see as well that it didn't look like, but that's it.
On going over to the Liverpool fans at the end of the game…
I think they were exceptional, to be honest. They realised it was not our day and they still showed they are real supporters. How can you really show or say thank you, but that was my way to do it.
Jürgen Klopp's post-match press conference
On making four substitutions at once and whether he has made that many in one go before...
We cannot change four so long - so probably not. We can only do it since a few months [ago]. But three at once, for sure I did. Just fresh legs, not getting injured. We had these situations today, you saw it, we are a team who don't foul usually like harsh or whatever... we got yellow cards and you could see [the] frustration was involved in that and the two yellow cards, [so] don't make it worse with getting a red and stuff like this. It was clear, it makes absolutely no sense to talk about it, but it would have been really necessary to play real football. Play a man-marking system, we have to move, we have to play, we have to pass the ball and stuff like this. So, we have footballers out there so we said, 'Come on, bring on fresh legs' and let's play a little bit.' In the end, nothing worked out today. But I think always in the little football-playing moments, I think everybody could see how close we were to causing more problems than we did. There was a situation in the first half, two or three passes - the centre-half defends it with a big toe, if you want, [and] if he doesn’t reach the ball then Cody is alone in front of the goal. So, we didn't have that. I don’t expect anybody to remember good situations from our game. What I remember is one-v-one situations, Brighton, going on the goalie, or going on the centre half, so that was the story of the game. That’s why when you lose the balls in moments where you cannot really be protected, that's why it looks [like] we stand on two feet and they just pass us [at] full-throttle speed. I have nothing good to say about this game.
On his players 'not competing' like he wants them too...
Of course it is something I don’t like but it's not that I think, 'Oh, you don't win challenges.' It's my job to organise the situation like that, that the boys arrive in the situation where they can have challenges. Yes, of course, then last week I said I cannot win a challenge for them, that’s true, but it's my job to organise that they arrive there in the right moments. It's my job to make the right line-up, all these things; set up the right tactics. I am not sure if it's still because the game is only a few minutes ago, but I can’t remember a worse game. I honestly can't and I mean all, not only Liverpool, I can’t remember, and that is my responsibility. That makes it a really low point for the moment. [That's] clear.
On whether he has to tell his team to forget about the performance…
No, there might be games [where I do that], but this is not. No, this is not how we say a one-off, or something like that. Unfortunately not. The moment is not great. Yes, we have injury problems and all these kind of things but come on. The team we could line-up today was absolutely not a bad one - really not. But what we made of it was not good, that’s true. No, it's not a moment where you say, ‘Come on, forget it’. Actually, I didn’t say a lot after the game now to the boys because I don't think anything I would have said would've helped. It's not the right moment to start if I have to say something, which helps either way, like wakes somebody up, or lift somebody, then I have time for doing that [is] tomorrow. I was not in the right mindset to do that this afternoon.
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Jürgen Klopp offered a frank assessment of his team’s performance as Liverpool were defeated 3-0 by Brighton & Hove Albion in the Premier League on Saturday.
The Reds were well beaten at the Amex Stadium, with the home team scoring three times in the second half via a brace from Solly March and a late strike from Danny Welbeck.
Read on for a summary of what the manager had to say in his post-match press conference.
On the result and Liverpool’s performance…
Congratulations to Brighton, they played an outstanding game. I really thought in moments we made it a little bit too easy for them, but in general they played outstanding and we didn't. We tried to help the boys with slightly different organisation. I actually thought it could have worked pretty well; we had moments where it worked well, where put them under pressure, but in all situations when we won the ball we lost the balls in the moment much too easy. That’s the main problem, so it means we never get this something going. Brighton was better for the whole 90 minutes, but it is 0-0 at half-time, so it is allowed for us as well to play not a good half. We have a kind of result and let’s go from there, but then obviously the second half started with the worst possible start. Being 1-0 down and the game it was already clear already that one team is ready play a really good game and one team fights with themselves pretty much to get something going. That's then the worst possible start and that's what everybody saw then. The problems are the same like last week when we spoke about it: we don't win the key battles on the pitch, the key challenges, and we give the ball away too easily. That's difficult to organise protection for losing balls you should not lose, it is not easy. Fully my responsibility because I had an idea with a different formation and it didn’t work out. So, [I am] sorry.
On whether he felt the team understood the messages given to them ahead of the game…
The week looked like everybody got what I said, to be honest. Bringing it on the pitch is then probably… you face a team full of confidence and joy and stuff like this and we need to have key moments as well where we put the ball over the line. We had chances I think for 2-1 if I am right. We had these moments, but there was no moment in the game where we could get a little lift and go from there. Then doubt comes and it is horrible to watch, to be honest. I think everybody with a Brighton shirt on or a Brighton heart enjoyed the game a lot and I don’t think anybody with a Liverpool heart enjoyed it for a second. I think the players listened, I am pretty sure, but I know where you are coming from and I see as well that it didn't look like, but that's it.
On going over to the Liverpool fans at the end of the game…
I think they were exceptional, to be honest. They realised it was not our day and they still showed they are real supporters. How can you really show or say thank you, but that was my way to do it.
Jürgen Klopp's post-match press conference
On making four substitutions at once and whether he has made that many in one go before...
We cannot change four so long - so probably not. We can only do it since a few months [ago]. But three at once, for sure I did. Just fresh legs, not getting injured. We had these situations today, you saw it, we are a team who don't foul usually like harsh or whatever... we got yellow cards and you could see [the] frustration was involved in that and the two yellow cards, [so] don't make it worse with getting a red and stuff like this. It was clear, it makes absolutely no sense to talk about it, but it would have been really necessary to play real football. Play a man-marking system, we have to move, we have to play, we have to pass the ball and stuff like this. So, we have footballers out there so we said, 'Come on, bring on fresh legs' and let's play a little bit.' In the end, nothing worked out today. But I think always in the little football-playing moments, I think everybody could see how close we were to causing more problems than we did. There was a situation in the first half, two or three passes - the centre-half defends it with a big toe, if you want, [and] if he doesn’t reach the ball then Cody is alone in front of the goal. So, we didn't have that. I don’t expect anybody to remember good situations from our game. What I remember is one-v-one situations, Brighton, going on the goalie, or going on the centre half, so that was the story of the game. That’s why when you lose the balls in moments where you cannot really be protected, that's why it looks [like] we stand on two feet and they just pass us [at] full-throttle speed. I have nothing good to say about this game.
On his players 'not competing' like he wants them too...
Of course it is something I don’t like but it's not that I think, 'Oh, you don't win challenges.' It's my job to organise the situation like that, that the boys arrive in the situation where they can have challenges. Yes, of course, then last week I said I cannot win a challenge for them, that’s true, but it's my job to organise that they arrive there in the right moments. It's my job to make the right line-up, all these things; set up the right tactics. I am not sure if it's still because the game is only a few minutes ago, but I can’t remember a worse game. I honestly can't and I mean all, not only Liverpool, I can’t remember, and that is my responsibility. That makes it a really low point for the moment. [That's] clear.
On whether he has to tell his team to forget about the performance…
No, there might be games [where I do that], but this is not. No, this is not how we say a one-off, or something like that. Unfortunately not. The moment is not great. Yes, we have injury problems and all these kind of things but come on. The team we could line-up today was absolutely not a bad one - really not. But what we made of it was not good, that’s true. No, it's not a moment where you say, ‘Come on, forget it’. Actually, I didn’t say a lot after the game now to the boys because I don't think anything I would have said would've helped. It's not the right moment to start if I have to say something, which helps either way, like wakes somebody up, or lift somebody, then I have time for doing that [is] tomorrow. I was not in the right mindset to do that this afternoon.
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We won the league with £25 million players, rejects from other teams and wtf individuals from relegated teams, not by duking it out with moneybags for over-hyped flavours of the month. Need to get back to that.
*sobs
Is that the official Brighton tweet? Small time, if it is.
It's not, it's a fan account.
Man, I feel the pain in his eyes.
I get a lot of the blame on Klopp but 8 months, he almost achieved everything that was possible in one season. We have all been before, let’s get some perspective on the man and calm it down a little. Sack talk is just plain embaressing.If we are pissed off, just think how he must be feeling.
Today result is a direct consequence for failing to invest in players after winning the Champions League and the Title...
We instead bought in below par players to try and complement the starting 11 and failed to ship out the driftwood.
Had we invested in one or two quaility players per transfer window, we could had kept our momentum and be up their fighting for another title.
Instead those players hitting and nearing 30 form has begun to fall off, that along with the few decent player we have that are injured means that we had no real quality on the bench
Gakpo must be thinking "WTF who have I signed for"
We instead bought in below par players to try and complement the starting 11 and failed to ship out the driftwood.
Had we invested in one or two quaility players per transfer window, we could had kept our momentum and be up their fighting for another title.
Instead those players hitting and nearing 30 form has begun to fall off, that along with the few decent player we have that are injured means that we had no real quality on the bench
Gakpo must be thinking "WTF who have I signed for"
Daiz £37m, with the fee potentially rising to £49m and cody Gakpo between £35m and £45m, you could hardly call that Big Money especially given what the top six are spending on players
Klopp walks and we get the modern day version of Big Sam
We signed Jota and Konate, two very capable players. We even signed Thiago later on.
I think the issue is that we didn't sign young midfielders. We relied on Keita, Milner and Jones to cover our midfield.
Ox and the three others should have been sold.
It's about quality and the fact that Klopp hasn't been ruthless in getting rid of players clearly not good enough.
Don't forget we wanted to sign Tchouameni too. This upcoming summer is make or break for us, we really need a revamp.
Thiago
Konate
Diaz
Jota
Gakpo
Nunez
All over £25 million.
Konate
Diaz
Jota
Gakpo
Nunez
All over £25 million.
Personally i don’t think Klopp is too loyal to the likes of Ox and Keita, he just knows they’re broken high wage flops. His choice is recoup next to nothing and go thrift shopping or hope they contribute here and there.
It’s tragic that we’re actually fielding what would’ve been considered a strong team last year and still getting shafted. Really tough to watch.
It’s tragic that we’re actually fielding what would’ve been considered a strong team last year and still getting shafted. Really tough to watch.
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