Biggest Flop of the Season
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For us - I don't really think we had 'great flops' - maybe Borini, but he barely stayed healthy.
Ross, explain to me the theory behind managers not making any difference, and money being the all important factor?🙂
Anyway, flop of the season - At Liverpool - for me was Glen Johnson. Particularly in the second half of the season. I've never seen him be so sloppy with the ball, ever.
Wingers got past him with ease on many occasions with crosses being allowed to get whipped in, while seeing him give the ball away cheaply in an attacking position was just exasperating.
A lot of people don't rate Enrique, and there are genuine concerns about him, but at least you hardly ever see any winger getting past him throughout a season, and he created quite a few goals for the team too. He's also the scorer of one of the best team goals we've scored in years.
Would much rather keep him than Johnson.
I wouldn't call Borini a flop - just too soon to make such a call, surely, but he hasn't proved himself value for money, when compared with the likes of Coutinho and Sturridge. The two, and our last two, signings, must be the yardstick to measure all future signings by.
Borini and Allen.
Hello. I agree.
I think Allen was poor, at least with Borini you can sort of see the potential there, but I wouldn't write either of them off by any means. Last season many of us thought Henderson was a dud and Shelvey was destined for greatness, 12 months makes alot of difference and another 12 could swiftly change opinion again. Sterling was a God-send 8 months ago, now he's barely mentioned. They're all young and they need time, not every one of them is going to come good, but we've alot of youngsters who have the potential to be first teamers, that's a big step in the right direction.
I wouldn't write them off either. But I was expecting a lot more from both(when they actually played) for the money paid for them. Injuries obviously didn't help either of them, but neither were worth the money we paid on what we saw.
Same with Hendo last season. I agree though with one of the previous posts, Sturridge and Coutinho should be a benchmark of sorts.
Yah - hence I said 'maybe' as I do like Borini, and think he can be a very good player for us.
Gerry mentioned Allen - and it's harsh too ... He wasn't healthy the last few months, but there was a lot of positive stuff in the first 10 appearances.
Players I expected more from given their price tag, for me is a flop. Doesn't mean they can't turn it around, but when you look at the return we got from other players, you can't help but be a little disappointed with them. Yeah, they've had injuries, and the excuse of it being their first season with us. But I'm still disappointed with the return we've had.
So Disappointment of the Year ... They didn't flop ... Flop is more like Downing last year.
I'm not sure I really understand the difference to be honest. But what ever you want to call it.
failure vs not meeting expectations ...
I just hope you don't have this scale for yourself, or kids!
If I spent nearly 30m on myself or my kids, I probably would.
You probably will end up doing so, minus two zeroes or so.
If it weren't for Fletcher they would have been relegated. He single handedly won them several games.
How did wolves get relegated again with a +£25M budget in the championship?
1. Borini was out mostly due to injury but he showed some potential. Whether we are the right club for him is left to be seen.
2. Allen was a disappointment. Started well enough and slid into mediocrity.
3. Skrtel never recovered from Carra getting into the team ahead of him. The lads confidence was shaken.
4. Shelvey, Jonjo who?
5. Jose was good in spurts but still dwells on the ball too long. He may have dreamt that he is Messi.
6. Magic started off poorly, picked up his form at LB then was anonymous at RB bar a few outstanding games.
7. Lucas never hit the heights after his injury. Needs to improve massively.
8. Pepe lost his hunger and seems to have got a taste again.
Henderson was a shining light this season and improved his mentality, confidence and goal tally.
Since December Downing has come good but whether its enough only time will tell.
Gerrard was ever present and was largely injury free. We managed him well this season.
Suarez, Coutinho and Sturridge gave me hope. Looking forward to the new season with them spearheading our attack.
2. Allen was a disappointment. Started well enough and slid into mediocrity.
3. Skrtel never recovered from Carra getting into the team ahead of him. The lads confidence was shaken.
4. Shelvey, Jonjo who?
5. Jose was good in spurts but still dwells on the ball too long. He may have dreamt that he is Messi.
6. Magic started off poorly, picked up his form at LB then was anonymous at RB bar a few outstanding games.
7. Lucas never hit the heights after his injury. Needs to improve massively.
8. Pepe lost his hunger and seems to have got a taste again.
Henderson was a shining light this season and improved his mentality, confidence and goal tally.
Since December Downing has come good but whether its enough only time will tell.
Gerrard was ever present and was largely injury free. We managed him well this season.
Suarez, Coutinho and Sturridge gave me hope. Looking forward to the new season with them spearheading our attack.
Surely this thread should be called The Three Envelopes?
Joe Allen
Yup. For us he's been the biggest flop. He's young and hopefully he'll turn things around next season but if you're going to call a spade a spade - so far he's been poor regardless of the excuses.
Skrtel. Terrible disappointment. And collectively the young players - for all the hype about giving youth a chance, Sterling was depressingly overplayed until he was a waste of space, Suso was messed around after a promising start and Pacheco never seemed to be fancied even though he played well enough in the reserves and showed a great commitment.
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