Yeh I've seen this it's worth exploring as an option.
It's forum articulated..
It's forum articulated..
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$50 a month though for a private affair. Does seem pricey. Tbf.
A 1000 thank yous for the work done. It must be my age, but I was more wincing than laughing. I find it funny if someone is being stupid getting Karma
Something like this
It is but OSS so could self host.
I would prefer to stay here, if that’s doable with security upgrades etc as @Dee has mentioned. It’s good to have continuity, the archive of old posts - it’s part of the fabric of this place and I feel any disruption will lead to endless comparisons between “old” SCM and new, we will lose some posters and I just think it’s not worth it unless we have no other option.
What @Dee has described seems doable - a one-time investment to upgrade and from then on things should hopefully run smoothly. Pooling money together should be no problem, so the key is selecting a “leadership group” who have the time and willingness (and at least some basic technical expertise) to guide us through the transition, make decisions on who to hire etc. We should also probably set a deadline or at least have a timeframe in mind so that the can doesn’t get kicked down the road endlessly - this issue we’ve just had should give us a sense of urgency because we cannot keep calling on Jono to rescue us when things go bad again.
What @Dee has described seems doable - a one-time investment to upgrade and from then on things should hopefully run smoothly. Pooling money together should be no problem, so the key is selecting a “leadership group” who have the time and willingness (and at least some basic technical expertise) to guide us through the transition, make decisions on who to hire etc. We should also probably set a deadline or at least have a timeframe in mind so that the can doesn’t get kicked down the road endlessly - this issue we’ve just had should give us a sense of urgency because we cannot keep calling on Jono to rescue us when things go bad again.
Well that's exactly how I signed up for The Anfield Noise. 6CM fell over and I needed a fix, quickly.
However how do any fans who decide to join a forum, or read about opinions on LFC, find any forum? Google for the subject of interest and / or LFC forums. If you can't be found the forum will die much faster than it is currently.
Well that's a very wide assumption that's obviously incorrect because you can't apply a generalisation to the whole situation.
Marketing : make a 100 calls (or 1,000 or whatever) to get 10 responses to make 1 sale x 365 = 365 sales. You can apply that to new forum users. Maybe most will use Twitter / FB / LFC's own forum. But a small proportion will find the forum because it's visible and decide to join up. How do you think we get new forum members? Am I missing something?
Do we get new members? About one a year maybe.
Stop being unnecessarily difficult/argumentative.
It's well known that the younger generation don't USUALLY gravitate towards forums.
Hence the popularity of subreddits, discord and the likes with the younger fans.
Of course there are going to be exceptions to the rule.
However per my point.
The older talking over 30 maybe 35 now.. Will have their favourite forum.. there is no point trying to actively promote this place in my opinion. You will only seek out alternatives if you no longer have access to it. (As you already agreed above).
It's obvious you disagree so let's leave it there.
I can't think why anyone wouldn't want to join this forum.
FWIW _IF_ we do decide to try to run on with this site and manage to get it upgraded from 1.5->2.2 (2.3) then the following nugget becomes interesting
"XenForo 2.1 and above includes a "one-click upgrade" system to simplify the upgrade process, providing your server configuration meets the requirements. To upgrade from an earlier version, you will need to use the manual upgrade approach detailed below."
"XenForo 2.1 and above includes a "one-click upgrade" system to simplify the upgrade process, providing your server configuration meets the requirements. To upgrade from an earlier version, you will need to use the manual upgrade approach detailed below."
I remember when I used to run a community garden, and I'd be out there shoveling giant piles of waste into a hammermill shredder, or weeding. The other gardeners would walk by and be like "it's really great what you are doing here, we really appreciate it!" I'd think, well, how about you fucking help then?
I have no idea whether a more out of the box solution would actually end up being less work overall, rather than continuing down our current path, but I'm very much with the idea that those who are doing it should very much value their time, and their future time in that decision. If an easier way is more expensive within reason, then speaking just for myself, as a useless fellow gardener, or maybe one of the weeds, I'm ok with it.
I have no idea whether a more out of the box solution would actually end up being less work overall, rather than continuing down our current path, but I'm very much with the idea that those who are doing it should very much value their time, and their future time in that decision. If an easier way is more expensive within reason, then speaking just for myself, as a useless fellow gardener, or maybe one of the weeds, I'm ok with it.
How much storage do we need to host 6CM ?
Is 50Gb not enough ? That’s what you get for the starter package on XenForo.
60 quid a month.
Can’t we just do another whip around and raise enough to extend for maybe 3 years in one go ? Doubt some of us will still be here by then.
Is 50Gb not enough ? That’s what you get for the starter package on XenForo.
60 quid a month.
Can’t we just do another whip around and raise enough to extend for maybe 3 years in one go ? Doubt some of us will still be here by then.
So we have to start calling people from the phone book as the next step to get more users?
$60 not £ and less if paid annually ($600) plus "Plus free migration from self-hosted XenForo to Cloud, and half-price non-XenForo import for services booked through December."
So a bit less than double what we are paying a month currently (£47/month pr £470/year compared to £25/month currently) for hosting. Don't know what we pay for licensing but is sounds VERY attractive!
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Could be wrong, but maybe that's for a service on their own server? Can't imagine their software (to host on one's own server) costing that much. And I imagine that SCM uses a cheaper alternative anyway, as these kinds of services normally have tiers and the higher end tier would allow the user to not show who the software provider is (ie their name at the bottom left). But I'm just guessing.
Oh and thank you @6TimesaRed for bringing the site back!
Firstly an absolute massive thank you to all the lads who rescued SCM and got it going again and are trying to keep it going into the future.
I can only make a financial contribution to the SCM future as I have no skills of any use whatsoever.
Personally I would prefer to continue with the forum format if we can but that is probably a reflection on me being an old dog not keen on new tricks.
I think it is fair that others have mentioned that we are unlikely to attract new members as a forum than we would if we were on discord or some other platform.
Most of us have been here for fifteen years plus so I guess it is a good time to discuss what future we envisage for the site.
Looking for new members is all well and good and should be pursued but personally I think we should be asking ourselves why we seem to have lost so many longstanding posters, be they gone for good or just posting significantly less than previously.
I can only make a financial contribution to the SCM future as I have no skills of any use whatsoever.
Personally I would prefer to continue with the forum format if we can but that is probably a reflection on me being an old dog not keen on new tricks.
I think it is fair that others have mentioned that we are unlikely to attract new members as a forum than we would if we were on discord or some other platform.
Most of us have been here for fifteen years plus so I guess it is a good time to discuss what future we envisage for the site.
Looking for new members is all well and good and should be pursued but personally I think we should be asking ourselves why we seem to have lost so many longstanding posters, be they gone for good or just posting significantly less than previously.
You'd be better off using ChatGPT to analyse every post over those fifteen plus years, and ask it what it thinks is the answer to that question. Of course that means you will provide it with some of my posts from over the years, information and insight you probably don't want it to incorporate into its own data lest it be used to hasten your extinction.
@6TimesaRed great work fella.
What's one of them when they're around?!
That £1,000 a year was for the cheapest option on their website?! Hence I'm flummoxed if 6CM are using it.
Main use was for really strong chaps to tear in half
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