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I can’t be bothered doing the meme but Salah as Jordan saying ‘and he said FPL records were imaginary’ and I took that personally.
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Greatest foreign player ever?
If he stayed here for another four or five years then I'd back him to break every scoring record going providing he stayed a regular and on pens. But there will be a point the club and him disagree on wages well before then, and we might have reached that limit already.
It’s such a tough one: he likely wants a bank breaking salary. The club won’t go there as it destroys their financial model. It will lead to wage inflation across the club with a lot of contracts up for negotiation beyond himself
We are utterly dependent on him. There’s no major options out there to replace him.
And he’s a once in a generation player.
Who has stopped talking about his contract situation interestingly.
We are utterly dependent on him. There’s no major options out there to replace him.
And he’s a once in a generation player.
Who has stopped talking about his contract situation interestingly.
Will he still be scoring 20-30 goals a season at 35-36? And even if he is, will it be to the detriment of the rest of team?
Messi was still hitting big numbers at the end of his Barca career but ultimately became a luxury player that the team struggled to compensate for (even if a large part of that was terrible recruitment and mismanagement).
I'm happy for him to stay and break records but it has to make sense.
Messi was still hitting big numbers at the end of his Barca career but ultimately became a luxury player that the team struggled to compensate for (even if a large part of that was terrible recruitment and mismanagement).
I'm happy for him to stay and break records but it has to make sense.
How is a bloke scoring over 30 goals to the detriment of the team? Messi wasn’t luxury due to the way they play but they borrowed under debt to do so with him and others.
If Salah wasn’t playing then whom would score the same amount of goals + assists in our team I wonder? Can we not do both? Keep him but also spend decent money on a good replacement? I’m sure club like us can do so.
If the player in question is getting on in years, can't / won't track and defend and consequently the team increasingly has to work harder to make up for that fact then it can on balance potentially be to the detriment to the team.
In that scenario, it might be better to just rip the band aid off. But if the drop off is minimal then yeah, all good...
Depends on his role, it may not be required every player provides the same level of back tracking and pressing. For e.g. Szbo seems to do a lot of work and running but then he also does at times do fck all else in an attacking sense during some games. I would say it depends on what's in the team to compensate for that, I would say if there is a single entity whom can score 25-30 goals with 10 assists etc then that is the most valuable commodity, a system can compensate for that.
If Gakpo improves as much this season as last then we don't have to replace like for like. The amount of times Salah has gone the afcon and we played just as well shows that the others can step up. It will be a big change but if we've got someone lined up with great potential then don't forget that's all Salah was when we bought him.
I want Salah to stay and everything but I do get a bit annoyed the way people talk like good goalscorers are just units of goals you can add to teams and when they leave then so do the goals. It was like that when City signed Haaland. I kept hearing how this team that already scored a shitload of goals without a striker were now gonna score a shitload + 30.
They don't operate in isolation. Probably about 10 of the goals Salah scores would be replaced just by having some half competent body in the box. Maybe 4 or 5 by penalties.
They don't operate in isolation. Probably about 10 of the goals Salah scores would be replaced just by having some half competent body in the box. Maybe 4 or 5 by penalties.
Agreed.
His numbers and quality early on in the season were very good.
As the season has gone on, his performances have dipped (is it age?) and his numbers have slowed down (and been propped up by pens).
I'm all for keeping him another season (to take goalscoring pressure off whatever number 9 we sign) , but not at any cost.
You could argue the club are better off negotiating his contract now whilst his performance have dipped, than early in the season when his performances were excellent, and people were talking about blank contracts and "give him whatever he wants".
Is that what he said?
not the last part
I don't think Mo is built to be a liar, the fact he has been here 8yrs and I know we have paid him well but I'm sure he would have had decent offers during that time to move on so proof is there on his loyalty.
It’s gonna be over crimbo closer to the end of the decade.
You'd have to hit a home run at both striker and at least one winger/forward, maybe two, to replicate his numbers.
One thing is the 32 goals but another is the 22 assists and chances created.
The next player on the list has 6 assists this season.
A player like Isak could probably replace the goals, but someone have to create the chances as well.
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Or adopt the way we play.
Key issue is if our other strikers contributed more then this won't be an issue but we have 5 other strikers don't I don't think still do enough as a unit of 3.
Chiesa - Forget about it
Diaz - Energetic and runs about a lot, that's it
Jota - Injured, forget about i
Nunez - Energetic in splurts, lacks any sort of match intelligence and can't take a pen it seems
Gakpo- Capable in multiple areas, has come on a lot but injured in short term and seems to streaky
We wouldn't be so reliant on Mo if the others could do more.
Since Mane and Bobby left, we haven't replaced them really and I don't have any confidence once Mo leaves, we will.
So it maybe a case of just going with it and accept it's going to be a transition season.
Was kind of hoping it might be before Mo retires, I don't think even he is going to go on that long.
Good luck with that and moving Afcon back to summer.
If Mo was at Real Madrid, there's no way they're offering him anything more than a 1 year rolling contract.
And they'd be phasing him out right now with the next Vini Jnr/Rodrigo/Hendrick (as they did with Ronaldo/Benzema).
Conversely, if Mo were at United, they'd probably offer him a new 4 year deal.
And they'd be phasing him out right now with the next Vini Jnr/Rodrigo/Hendrick (as they did with Ronaldo/Benzema).
Conversely, if Mo were at United, they'd probably offer him a new 4 year deal.
Just don't ask Modo about Mo's mistress!!!
So, if he signs, next year he will be retuning from AFCON just in time for Ramadan ... I doubt many trees will be being pulled up next February
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