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Poll would you drop carra?

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[quote author=grjt link=topic=46831.msg1397991#msg1397991 date=1315829064]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=46831.msg1397987#msg1397987 date=1315828308]
[quote author=Stulikesdrums link=topic=46831.msg1397907#msg1397907 date=1315819280]
Yes, I'd drop him but I think Kenny will tell him he's number one and will stick with him.

Oncy, you have been out of order in this thread. You want people to come onto these boards and post their views yet you've called anyone who has disagreed with you 'a superfan wanker'. Nice.
[/quote]No i havnt called anyone who disagreed with me 'superfan wanker' you mellodramatic bellend.
There are a number of posts (ie Vlads above) that i happen to agree with, and if you check back, on more than one occassion i have hinted that it may be better for our 'football playing' if Carragher wasnt in the team. I
happy to explore the options and always have been, but by the same token as when i deride the stupid fucking nugget of 'skrtel has a penalty/mistake in him' i will defend our vice captain and Liverpool Legend from the happy clappy morons who want to write him off because he made A mistake.
Its the same principle as those who have fuck all to say about (ie) Lucas and Kuyt when they are playing well only to start a thread the minute they have a bad game with the usual fucking tactical shite about how the shape of the team is ruined by them and we need attacking fullbacks and a diamond and all sorts of other wank. Its disrespectful to players who give their heart and soul to the cause.
Maybe your right, maybe its me whos out of step with the modern fan. If thats the case, then good, but i wont apologise for it.
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A-fucking-men.

And I'd assert that more people are put off this board by the unnecessary flogging of our longest and most loyal servants, than by the occasional barbed comment to the usual fucking champ-manager-hero suspects
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I would definitely agree with that.
 
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=46831.msg1397996#msg1397996 date=1315829326]
Fair point grjt. The melodramatic knee jerking on here is ridiculous at times
[/quote]BUT DONT YOU UNDERSTAND HE GAVE AWAY A PENALTYYYYYYYYY!!!11111 AND MISSCONTROLLED A CLEARANCE!!!! HES A FUCKING HOOFBALL BELLEND AND NEEDS SACKING!!!!!11111
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=46831.msg1397999#msg1397999 date=1315829463]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=46831.msg1397996#msg1397996 date=1315829326]
Fair point grjt. The melodramatic knee jerking on here is ridiculous at times
[/quote]BUT DONT YOU UNDERSTAND HE GAVE AWAY A PENALTYYYYYYYYY!!!11111 AND MISSCONTROLLED A CLEARANCE!!!! HES A FUCKING HOOFBALL BELLEND AND NEEDS SACKING!!!!!11111
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Hahaha, but in fairness he does overestimate his own distribution skills.
 
The thing is we wont have a better oppertunity to phase him out over the next couple of seasons than this season.

This year realistically we are probably gonna end up battling for top four rather than the title and so will still be a transitional year. You would hope from next year onwards we could be serious challengers again, the risk of bringing a new centre back partnership in at that stage could kill our challenge for another year.

Carra is not a kid anymore and isn't playing to his top level for a year or so now. Definetley worth his weight in gold in the squad, but we should be actively looking to replace him. Lets hope Coates can step up to the mark.
 
[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=46831.msg1398004#msg1398004 date=1315829597]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=46831.msg1397999#msg1397999 date=1315829463]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=46831.msg1397996#msg1397996 date=1315829326]
Fair point grjt. The melodramatic knee jerking on here is ridiculous at times
[/quote]BUT DONT YOU UNDERSTAND HE GAVE AWAY A PENALTYYYYYYYYY!!!11111 AND MISSCONTROLLED A CLEARANCE!!!! HES A FUCKING HOOFBALL BELLEND AND NEEDS SACKING!!!!!11111
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Hahaha, but in fairness he does overestimate his own distribution skills.
[/quote]Mate Jamie Carragher could curl one out in his hand and chimp it at the Queen and id still support him.
I dont care if he thinks he's as good as Hansen, the wider debate around him being in our team is a valid one, but not after 2 games below par.
If in a couple of weeks hes clearly in a rut (or even the decline that so many seem to be eager to push him into) then fine, i have no problem him being dropped.
I await the calls for Agger to be dropped the next time he cost us a goal...
 
maybe it's just me, but it seems the reaction against the criticism is far more hysterical than any reaction against carra himself. has anyone really been slating him on here? about the worst offender i can remember is Neil, but i'd hardly call it offensive.
 
Oncey, you've probably called this one correctly.


But you do seem quite aggressive at the moment - you used to be more chilled.
 
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=46831.msg1398013#msg1398013 date=1315830082]
Oncey, you've probably called this one correctly.


But you do seem quite aggressive at the moment - you used to be more chilled.
[/quote]Im chilled as fuck Robinho.
Im cool hand luke, cool and the gang, im frosty.
x
 
[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=46831.msg1398004#msg1398004 date=1315829597]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=46831.msg1397999#msg1397999 date=1315829463]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=46831.msg1397996#msg1397996 date=1315829326]
Fair point grjt. The melodramatic knee jerking on here is ridiculous at times
[/quote]BUT DONT YOU UNDERSTAND HE GAVE AWAY A PENALTYYYYYYYYY!!!11111 AND MISSCONTROLLED A CLEARANCE!!!! HES A FUCKING HOOFBALL BELLEND AND NEEDS SACKING!!!!!11111
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Hahaha, but in fairness he does overestimate his own distribution skills.


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Yeh he does. To be fair though I thought it was a soft pen as Walters led in with his arm and knocked Carragher off balance. The arm Carra threw up was as much to retain balance as anything else. The general hand wringing malaise on here because we undeservedly lost a game was shameful at times. People need to step back and take a look at where we were 12 months ago. It's not "the same old Liverpool" at all. It's a much improved squad that played well at a ground we tend to get outmuscled but fell short of some finishing and some dubious refereeing. Seeing the club brought back from the brink and heading in the right direction is not enough for some people though. People expect overnight miracles and instant success. It's the same with young players - people expect instant world class players. People expect we can compete financially with these clubs who have massive funds at their disposal when we can't - especially when what drives most footy players these days is nothing more than greed save a few exceptions. It's not about being sentimental or anything like that - it's about having opinion based in at least some reality. It's a shame a lot of fans are so impatient these days and react on whatever their opinion du jour is but I've come to expect it from the Sky football generation who lap up the media sensationalism that surrounds footy these days. I can't even bring myself to read some threads on these forums at times- as some attitudes towards this club and some players who play for it are fucking shameful.
 
Good post Sunny.

We're still going to win the league, so stop panicking everyone.
 
Happy Clappy morons, Oncy?

As Peter Hague points out, no one is slating Carragher. People are answering the question that is being put to them. No one is belittling JC's contribution over the years. But the reactions from you and others that those who would drop him are being 'knee jerk' and other things Grjt mentions is way OTT. Carragher is playing shit right now and has cost the team points NOW. Yes he saved us many, many points over his career but really, what good is that to us now? If is form is bad and we have replacements then asking if he should be dropped is a very valid discussion.
 
[quote author=Stulikesdrums link=topic=46831.msg1398026#msg1398026 date=1315832212]
Happy Clappy morons, Oncy?

As Peter Hague points out, no one is slating Carragher. People are answering the question that is being put to them. No one is belittling JC's contribution over the years. But the reactions from you and others that those who would drop him are being 'knee jerk' and other things Grjt mentions is way OTT. Carragher is playing shit right now and has cost the team points NOW. Yes he saved us many, many points over his career but really, what good is that to us now? If is form is bad and we have replacements then asking if he should be dropped is a very valid discussion.
[/quote]I dont care to discuss it anymore Stu. You and others think discussing dropping a player on the back of 2 games isnt knee jerk, then thats fine with me.
No problemo, im moving on.
 
to be fair 6CM allow people to express their opinion on carra with impunity, on RAWK every last carra thread has been locked. so much for freedom of speech.
 
[quote author=Stulikesdrums link=topic=46831.msg1398026#msg1398026 date=1315832212]
Happy Clappy morons, Oncy?

As Peter Hague points out, no one is slating Carragher. People are answering the question that is being put to them. No one is belittling JC's contribution over the years. But the reactions from you and others that those who would drop him are being 'knee jerk' and other things Grjt mentions is way OTT. Carragher is playing shit right now and has cost the team points NOW. Yes he saved us many, many points over his career but really, what good is that to us now? If is form is bad and we have replacements then asking if he should be dropped is a very valid discussion.
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You do realise that you have described the very essence of knee-jerk, right? ie He's not performing NOW.

Noone is saying that he's untouchable, what people ARE saying is have some fucking dignity and respect.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46831.msg1398031#msg1398031 date=1315832872]
to be fair 6CM allow people to express their opinion on carra with impunity, on RAWK every last carra thread has been locked. so much for freedom of speech.
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Considering they consider Carra to be the anti-Christ thats a bit surprising.
 
[quote author=grjt link=topic=46831.msg1398039#msg1398039 date=1315833865]
[quote author=Stulikesdrums link=topic=46831.msg1398026#msg1398026 date=1315832212]
Happy Clappy morons, Oncy?

As Peter Hague points out, no one is slating Carragher. People are answering the question that is being put to them. No one is belittling JC's contribution over the years. But the reactions from you and others that those who would drop him are being 'knee jerk' and other things Grjt mentions is way OTT. Carragher is playing shit right now and has cost the team points NOW. Yes he saved us many, many points over his career but really, what good is that to us now? If is form is bad and we have replacements then asking if he should be dropped is a very valid discussion.
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You do realise that you have described the very essence of knee-jerk, right? ie He's not performing NOW.

Noone is saying that he's untouchable, what people ARE saying is have some fucking dignity and respect.
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He's been on the decline for a while. I recall some posters questioning his last contract extension. 3yrs & 90k per week I think it was for, so these conversations are nothing new and not knee jerk. They're in vogue due to recent errors but have been popping up over the last 18 months or so.

Don't be so fucking precious Grjt, talking about dignity and respect. What's so disrespectful about this discussion? No one is taking down or insulting Carragher here at all.
 
Why are people getting menstrual over this?

It matters not 1 jot what we think so why get all titty over it


I think he should be dropped. Yes he's a great servant, yes on his day he's great, but it's costing us points now, which is all that matters. 2 games on the trot there's been a error from him that led to a goal. I want Coates to get a go and see if hes as amazing as I hope

There's no room for sentiment in football

Plus his distribution is pish.
 
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=46831.msg1398058#msg1398058 date=1315835917]
Why are people getting menstrual over this?

It matters not 1 jot what we think so why get all titty over it


I think he should be dropped. Yes he's a great servant, yes on his day he's great, but it's costing us points now, which is all that matters. 2 games on the trot there's been a error from him that led to a goal. I want Coates to get a go and see if hes as amazing as I hope

There's no room for sentiment in football

Plus his distribution is pish.
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coates' distribution is pish? bummer 😛
 
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[quote author=grjt link=topic=46831.msg1398039#msg1398039 date=1315833865]
[quote author=Stulikesdrums link=topic=46831.msg1398026#msg1398026 date=1315832212]
Happy Clappy morons, Oncy?

As Peter Hague points out, no one is slating Carragher. People are answering the question that is being put to them. No one is belittling JC's contribution over the years. But the reactions from you and others that those who would drop him are being 'knee jerk' and other things Grjt mentions is way OTT. Carragher is playing shit right now and has cost the team points NOW. Yes he saved us many, many points over his career but really, what good is that to us now? If is form is bad and we have replacements then asking if he should be dropped is a very valid discussion.
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You do realise that you have described the very essence of knee-jerk, right? ie He's not performing NOW.

Noone is saying that he's untouchable, what people ARE saying is have some fucking dignity and respect.
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He's been on the decline for a while. I recall some posters questioning his last contract extension. 3yrs & 90k per week I think it was for, so these conversations are nothing new and not knee jerk. They're in vogue due to recent errors but have been popping up over the last 18 months or so.

Don't be so fucking precious Grjt, talking about dignity and respect. What's so disrespectful about this discussion? No one is taking down or insulting Carragher here at all.
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Before you spout off dipshit, try reading the posts and following the links provided...

...and you'll notice that one of the things thrown at Carragher was that he was mistake prone and a liability because he is 2nd in the list of OG scorers in the Prem!! - the fact that he's played for SIXTEEN FUCKING YEARS at the top level wasnt even mentioned.
 
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=46831.msg1398066#msg1398066 date=1315836308]
Less of the dipshit stuff please angrjt
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Yeah, to be fair, I have been by far the most offensive poster in the thread, so thanks for your input Flabio.

And why I'm arguing the toss over dignity and respect with Stu "oh Brendan, you just MADE my weekend by being nice to me on the internet" likesdrums, could also be questionned.
 
[quote author=grjt link=topic=46831.msg1398070#msg1398070 date=1315836534]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=46831.msg1398066#msg1398066 date=1315836308]
Less of the dipshit stuff please angrjt
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Yeah, to be fair, I have been by far the most offensive poster in the thread, so thanks for your input Flabio.

And why I'm arguing the toss over dignity and respect with Stu "oh Brendan, you just MADE my weekend by being nice to me on the internet" likesdrums, could also be questionned.
[/quote]Back out like i did. Youll feel better for it.
 
[quote author=grjt link=topic=46831.msg1398070#msg1398070 date=1315836534]

Stu "oh Brendan, you just MADE my weekend by being nice to me on the internet" likesdrums[/quote]

tee hee, to be fair it does make your weekend when bren is nice to you.
 
[quote author=Modo link=topic=46831.msg1398092#msg1398092 date=1315840101]
*Grandpa Simpsons walks in, walks out*
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can't be bothered to google the gif, modo? so lazy.

*faceplam gif*
 
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