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[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=39280.msg1068961#msg1068961 date=1268503150]
You can argue, that despite that team looking good, Everton's squad are actually stronger than ours.
Man for man on paper that sounds mad, but looking at how each of the equavilent players in both sides have or havent performed their squad is actually better than ours.
When you have that level of underperforming (sp) in a team there's a serious problem.
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On current form their squad is better. If ours was playing to its full potential they'd be nowhere near.
Nothing wrong with your spelling of "underperforming" BTW. "Equavilent" on the other hand.... ;D
You can argue, that despite that team looking good, Everton's squad are actually stronger than ours.
Man for man on paper that sounds mad, but looking at how each of the equavilent players in both sides have or havent performed their squad is actually better than ours.
When you have that level of underperforming (sp) in a team there's a serious problem.
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On current form their squad is better. If ours was playing to its full potential they'd be nowhere near.
Nothing wrong with your spelling of "underperforming" BTW. "Equavilent" on the other hand.... ;D
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=39280.msg1068984#msg1068984 date=1268508696]
Do you mean Rafa isn't using him correctly? How so?
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LW starts early into his Liverpool career were diabolical. Instead of a couple cameos on the RW leading to a start or two only to keep his spot if he plays well or helps contribute to a better overall team effort. Of course he's been used incorrectly, besides Reina and Torres who has Rafa used absolutely correctly this year. Degen at RW? no, Yossi at LW? no Gerrard at DM? no ...
Do you mean Rafa isn't using him correctly? How so?
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LW starts early into his Liverpool career were diabolical. Instead of a couple cameos on the RW leading to a start or two only to keep his spot if he plays well or helps contribute to a better overall team effort. Of course he's been used incorrectly, besides Reina and Torres who has Rafa used absolutely correctly this year. Degen at RW? no, Yossi at LW? no Gerrard at DM? no ...
except for a few, there's no purpose served by the others being here other than to make up the numbers.
1.Cavalieri
2. Johnson
4. Aquilani
5. Agger
8. Gerrard
9. Torres
11.Riera
12.Aurelio
15.Benayoun
16.Kyrgiakos
17.Rodriguez
18. Kuyt
19. Babel
20. Mascherano
21.Lucas
22.Insua
23. Carragher
24.Ngog
25. Reina
26.Spearing
27.Degen
28.Plessis
29. Nemeth
30.Itandje
31.El Zhar
32. Darby
34. Kelly
36.Irwin
37. Skrtel
40. Ayala
41.Hansen
42.Gulacsi
46. Amoo
47. Pacheco
48. Bruna
- Bouzanis
- Eccleston
-Flora
- Dalla Valle
-Kacaniklic
-Martin
-Mavinga
-Mendy
-Oldfield
-Palsson
-Poloskei
-San José
- Saric
-Simon
-Weijl
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2. Johnson
4. Aquilani
5. Agger
8. Gerrard
9. Torres
11.
12.
15.
16.
17.
18. Kuyt
19. Babel
20. Mascherano
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23. Carragher
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25. Reina
26.
27.
28.
29. Nemeth
30.
31.
32. Darby
34. Kelly
36.
37. Skrtel
40. Ayala
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42.
46. Amoo
47. Pacheco
48. Bruna
- Bouzanis
- Eccleston
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Why get rid of Benayoun and keep Babel?
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=39280.msg1069024#msg1069024 date=1268515893]
Why get rid of Benayoun and keep Babel?
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babel can still become a star, which we otherwise can't afford to buy. so its worth hoping for the best.
benayoun is old and will soon be worthless, and he's no good on the wing, and we have better players in the middle. so its time to recover some cash and replace him with pacheco.
Why get rid of Benayoun and keep Babel?
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babel can still become a star, which we otherwise can't afford to buy. so its worth hoping for the best.
benayoun is old and will soon be worthless, and he's no good on the wing, and we have better players in the middle. so its time to recover some cash and replace him with pacheco.
A bit harsh on the Greek. he's not a long term solution obviously but he's been arguably our best defender this season. Hopefully he's still got in in him for one more year next year too.
oh, and I'd keep San Jose too.
Bruna is a waste of time.
Bruna is a waste of time.
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=39280.msg1069027#msg1069027 date=1268516590]
A bit harsh on the Greek. he's not a long term solution obviously but he's been arguably our best defender this season. Hopefully he's still got in in him for one more year next year too.
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he's useful to a team that sits back in their own half, hoofing the ball, and allows the other team to apply pressure and send in crosses at will.
for a team that keeps the ball and looks to attack, he'd be absolutely useless against counter-attacks.
A bit harsh on the Greek. he's not a long term solution obviously but he's been arguably our best defender this season. Hopefully he's still got in in him for one more year next year too.
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he's useful to a team that sits back in their own half, hoofing the ball, and allows the other team to apply pressure and send in crosses at will.
for a team that keeps the ball and looks to attack, he'd be absolutely useless against counter-attacks.
Agreed, but a third to maybe half of the league plays that style of football, so he has a purpose.
I wouldn't have him against nippy Arshavin types though.
I wouldn't have him against nippy Arshavin types though.
it's just dawned on me that i've made a list of names with people i don't like, and started crossing them off
Well, I suppose that's one way of reducing the club's wage bill.
degen and aurelio would be the safest starting point. even if they turned up with missing limbs the coroner couldn't rule out an accidental injury
the biggest deficiency for me is no senior second striker of note. if we bought Milito or Negredo when we could of for like £12m, when the Keane money disappeared we would be in a better position
I would also argue Kuyt should be put out to pasture and we need a fast winger who has a good touch and a trick or two
we need to invest in some players to make the squad stronger or get lucky with free's. it's obvious there are financial constraints which shows up in the squad
I would also argue Kuyt should be put out to pasture and we need a fast winger who has a good touch and a trick or two
we need to invest in some players to make the squad stronger or get lucky with free's. it's obvious there are financial constraints which shows up in the squad
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=39280.msg1069159#msg1069159 date=1268580464]
the biggest deficiency for me is no senior second striker of note. if we bought Milito or Negredo when we could of for like £12m, when the Keane money disappeared we would be in a better position
I would also argue Kuyt should be put out to pasture and we need a fast winger who has a good touch and a trick or two
we need to invest in some players to make the squad stronger or get lucky with free's. it's obvious there are financial constraints which shows up in the squad
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hahaha jesus christ. one of the good things the owners ever did was not hand that money back to benitez. benitez has had the chance to try out other strikers like nemeth and pacheco. he chose ngog. he had the chance to give babel more games. he chose to add maxi to the wage bill. he had the chance to try aquilani in the attacking role, he went with lucas.
financial constraints indeed. the problem we have is with the managers mental constraints.
the biggest deficiency for me is no senior second striker of note. if we bought Milito or Negredo when we could of for like £12m, when the Keane money disappeared we would be in a better position
I would also argue Kuyt should be put out to pasture and we need a fast winger who has a good touch and a trick or two
we need to invest in some players to make the squad stronger or get lucky with free's. it's obvious there are financial constraints which shows up in the squad
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hahaha jesus christ. one of the good things the owners ever did was not hand that money back to benitez. benitez has had the chance to try out other strikers like nemeth and pacheco. he chose ngog. he had the chance to give babel more games. he chose to add maxi to the wage bill. he had the chance to try aquilani in the attacking role, he went with lucas.
financial constraints indeed. the problem we have is with the managers mental constraints.
Dantes, you really shouldn't be using the words 'mental' and 'restraints' in the same sentence.
Especially not when you're responding to Headwand
[quote author=monsieurdantes link=topic=39280.msg1069165#msg1069165 date=1268580947]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=39280.msg1069159#msg1069159 date=1268580464]
the biggest deficiency for me is no senior second striker of note. if we bought Milito or Negredo when we could of for like £12m, when the Keane money disappeared we would be in a better position
I would also argue Kuyt should be put out to pasture and we need a fast winger who has a good touch and a trick or two
we need to invest in some players to make the squad stronger or get lucky with free's. it's obvious there are financial constraints which shows up in the squad
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hahaha jesus christ. one of the good things the owners ever did was not hand that money back to benitez. benitez has had the chance to try out other strikers like nemeth and pacheco. he chose ngog. he had the chance to give babel more games. he chose to add maxi to the wage bill. he had the chance to try aquilani in the attacking role, he went with lucas.
financial constraints indeed. the problem we have is with the managers mental constraints.
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Nemeth and Pacheco are not senior strikers of international quality, which is what we have needed in the last 18 months. we have actually signed one for next season on a free so hopefully when Torres is injured we will perform better but you just dont know, it's a gamble and i'd much prefer a Negredo or a Milito but that is the financial constraints we operate under so it's no good blaming Benitez for that. He has got to work minor miracles
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=39280.msg1069159#msg1069159 date=1268580464]
the biggest deficiency for me is no senior second striker of note. if we bought Milito or Negredo when we could of for like £12m, when the Keane money disappeared we would be in a better position
I would also argue Kuyt should be put out to pasture and we need a fast winger who has a good touch and a trick or two
we need to invest in some players to make the squad stronger or get lucky with free's. it's obvious there are financial constraints which shows up in the squad
[/quote]
hahaha jesus christ. one of the good things the owners ever did was not hand that money back to benitez. benitez has had the chance to try out other strikers like nemeth and pacheco. he chose ngog. he had the chance to give babel more games. he chose to add maxi to the wage bill. he had the chance to try aquilani in the attacking role, he went with lucas.
financial constraints indeed. the problem we have is with the managers mental constraints.
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Nemeth and Pacheco are not senior strikers of international quality, which is what we have needed in the last 18 months. we have actually signed one for next season on a free so hopefully when Torres is injured we will perform better but you just dont know, it's a gamble and i'd much prefer a Negredo or a Milito but that is the financial constraints we operate under so it's no good blaming Benitez for that. He has got to work minor miracles
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=39280.msg1069188#msg1069188 date=1268586117]
[quote author=monsieurdantes link=topic=39280.msg1069165#msg1069165 date=1268580947]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=39280.msg1069159#msg1069159 date=1268580464]
the biggest deficiency for me is no senior second striker of note. if we bought Milito or Negredo when we could of for like £12m, when the Keane money disappeared we would be in a better position
I would also argue Kuyt should be put out to pasture and we need a fast winger who has a good touch and a trick or two
we need to invest in some players to make the squad stronger or get lucky with free's. it's obvious there are financial constraints which shows up in the squad
[/quote]
hahaha jesus christ. one of the good things the owners ever did was not hand that money back to benitez. benitez has had the chance to try out other strikers like nemeth and pacheco. he chose ngog. he had the chance to give babel more games. he chose to add maxi to the wage bill. he had the chance to try aquilani in the attacking role, he went with lucas.
financial constraints indeed. the problem we have is with the managers mental constraints.
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Nemeth and Pacheco are not senior strikers of international quality, which is what we have needed in the last 18 months. we have actually signed one for next season on a free so hopefully when Torres is injured we will perform better but you just dont know, it's a gamble and i'd much prefer a Negredo or a Milito but that is the financial constraints we operate under so it's no good blaming Benitez for that. He has got to work minor miracles
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Aquaflop 20m
Keane 20m
Johnson 18m
Did someone mention financial constraints and miracles?
[quote author=monsieurdantes link=topic=39280.msg1069165#msg1069165 date=1268580947]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=39280.msg1069159#msg1069159 date=1268580464]
the biggest deficiency for me is no senior second striker of note. if we bought Milito or Negredo when we could of for like £12m, when the Keane money disappeared we would be in a better position
I would also argue Kuyt should be put out to pasture and we need a fast winger who has a good touch and a trick or two
we need to invest in some players to make the squad stronger or get lucky with free's. it's obvious there are financial constraints which shows up in the squad
[/quote]
hahaha jesus christ. one of the good things the owners ever did was not hand that money back to benitez. benitez has had the chance to try out other strikers like nemeth and pacheco. he chose ngog. he had the chance to give babel more games. he chose to add maxi to the wage bill. he had the chance to try aquilani in the attacking role, he went with lucas.
financial constraints indeed. the problem we have is with the managers mental constraints.
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Nemeth and Pacheco are not senior strikers of international quality, which is what we have needed in the last 18 months. we have actually signed one for next season on a free so hopefully when Torres is injured we will perform better but you just dont know, it's a gamble and i'd much prefer a Negredo or a Milito but that is the financial constraints we operate under so it's no good blaming Benitez for that. He has got to work minor miracles
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Aquaflop 20m
Keane 20m
Johnson 18m
Did someone mention financial constraints and miracles?
riera is a senior winger of international quality. kuyt is a senior striker of international quality. don't waste you're time hoping jovanawhat? is something or someone we need.
pacheco is one of the few players in the last 18 months that has looked the part. but he's not a senior striker of international quality so we don't need him? but hang on a minute n'gog is also not a senio international, but he looks fucking hopeless so got picked week after week?
don't you see the pattern in this. beintez is wrong, he doesn't look at experience/youth, or balance quality/fitness. he just looked at the decisions he's had to make and the only consistent thing in the last 18 months is that he makes the wrong decision. there is no defence for that and only a fucking idiot would hand him any money
pacheco is one of the few players in the last 18 months that has looked the part. but he's not a senior striker of international quality so we don't need him? but hang on a minute n'gog is also not a senio international, but he looks fucking hopeless so got picked week after week?
don't you see the pattern in this. beintez is wrong, he doesn't look at experience/youth, or balance quality/fitness. he just looked at the decisions he's had to make and the only consistent thing in the last 18 months is that he makes the wrong decision. there is no defence for that and only a fucking idiot would hand him any money
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