This is also one of the things Trent does really well - big cross field passes out to Robbo.
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This is also one of the things Trent does really well - big cross field passes out to Robbo.
Yeah - Shaq was shite when he came on against Bayern. Positively invisible in fact.
Klopp did note afterwards that Shaq was recovering from a virus and hadn't trained. I guess next season we'll have several young players in the senior squad, but we just don't have enough good options on the bench.
My bad. It was the West Ham game I was thinking of. Knew it was a midweek match.
Yeah, except he didn't come on against West Ham, either - he started the match
EDIT - my turn to get confused. I switched to talking about Keita rather than Shaq in this post. You are right, Shaq did come on against West Ham. Mea culpa
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While we're all tossing around meaningless stats, in Keita's last 10 games for us we've scored a goal or less 6 times. In Henderson's last 10 games we've scored a goal or less 6 times too. In Gini's last 10 games we've scored a goal or less 5 times. Him starting guarantees nothing, granted he's a more offensive player, but the dynamic of the midfield isn't necessarily the problem, even if the balance could be better, it's our inability to get many goals beyond the front three. And at the moment they're misfiring too, so goals are hard to come by. Beyond Shaqiri there's NO ONE in the squad other than the front three who are nailed on for 5+ goals a season (save Milner, largely through a few penalties).
Creativity and goals are a problem, they were two years ago and until he gets fully adjusted to us, Keita doesn't look like adding any/many.
Creativity and goals are a problem, they were two years ago and until he gets fully adjusted to us, Keita doesn't look like adding any/many.
Who the cunt put another game on a Wednesday?
Very true, but I think what Klop sees is what I think many of us see when we are in advanced positions - which is just bad decision making, and really slow predictable passing when in the final third. We need to speed it up, we are there at the door of the opposition defence more than most teams, but we just need to speed it up and make the right passes. Sometimes - like the way Matip did - we need to maybe just drive into the opposition when they least expect it and this will open up the necessary space for others.
The issue with facing brick wall/park the bus teams, is always a problem - even City have issues with them but they overcome them more often because they move that ball around much faster than we do in the final third.
Like horses and zebras they’re basically the same thing but most men don’t have the balls to ride a zebra.
But I‘d eat both.
I’d employ Matips forays as a tactic.
How the fuck can you defend against that, even he doesn’t know what’s going to happen next.
He scares the fuck out of me when he does it. He runs forward with purpose, then about 30 yards from goal gets confused and usually lays the ball off to the opposition & is then out of position. When he did it against utd there were only two possible outcomes - a free kick or a Utd breakaway goal. Fortunately the former won out
I hate them for exactly that reason.
Against Utd it almost worked, which is actually more scary cos he may do it more often. When VVD does it he find the pass, so it's much less scary. Even if the ball is lost moments later he either makes sure he recovers it, or simply strolls towards our area in time to regain his position before they get there, using some kind of time portal or something.
Against Utd it almost worked, which is actually more scary cos he may do it more often. When VVD does it he find the pass, so it's much less scary. Even if the ball is lost moments later he either makes sure he recovers it, or simply strolls towards our area in time to regain his position before they get there, using some kind of time portal or something.
I wish VVD would do it more often. He’s more than capable and has a wicked shot on hum
I wasnt responding to a point. I was making one. That hes fucking shit.
And that in 25 games fans have said he was the best of our 11 players ONCE.
Just as an aside in the same number of games (and probably less starts) Shaqiri has 6 goals and 4 assists. I think Keita has NONE of either in spite of being given virtually a free role.
And if Morses motm thread matters to you (anyone) in 25 games
Keita 1 motm, one 2nd place, one 3rd place.
Shaqiri 3 motm, three 2nd place, two 3rd place.
Me I prefer the old goals and assists to liking a players ‘work no one sees’ especially as I dont like having to have TWO eyes on a player.
*wink*
And if Morses motm thread matters to you (anyone) in 25 games
Keita 1 motm, one 2nd place, one 3rd place.
Shaqiri 3 motm, three 2nd place, two 3rd place.
Me I prefer the old goals and assists to liking a players ‘work no one sees’ especially as I dont like having to have TWO eyes on a player.
*wink*
Wow mate. A few Words in Bold and a WHOLE SENTENCE IN CAPTITAL letters and I would believe you literally stole one of Brendans posts.
Im pretty much in agreement with Brendan about most players, Wonderman the obvious exception and his early insistence that Firmino was anything but a G.
We are of the old school, we like our players to actually help us win games.
They are not exactly comparable statistically, are they? Keita is a CM, Shaqiri is an AM/winger. I'm sure Keita has a lot more interceptions, clearances and passes per game. Keita does have one league assist BTW, even though it was kind of a cheap one.
Not disputing your larger point though, Shaqiri has contributed far more this season so far. But I believe Keita will step up and prove his class.
I'm never going to live that down am I ? A meme for life.
I hope so.
He cost good money.
Im just being an arse really. We all want him to come good.
Hahaha mate we all have them
Well you have supported us long enough to have noticed by now that most players who comes in with a bang and delivers straight away fades away and ends up like a farth in wind while our slowstarters seem to develop into steady mean machines. I have no clue were either Shaq or Keita is on their respective curves.
*handshake*
Yeah, he cost money and time too – it will be 2 seasons of waiting for him to come and then waiting for him to adjust this summer and we have passed over other good CMs (Rabiot, Seri?) because our eggs are in Keita basket. We depend on him coming good.
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