Tottenham v Liverpool Post Match Thread
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He could have given a pen away too. He was good though. Milner did well but did lose his position for the goal, its commendable that he did so well there though.
The incident with Janssen? Never a pen that.
Thought Milner was great. He's an intelligent player and such a difference from the brainless Moreno.
No way was that a pen. jansen was taking the piss
So a young exiting player with huge potential struggled after coming on for half an hour at White Hart Lane, and that is proof that his development made him shite? Fucking hell..... Are you just plain stupid or do you just pretend to be?
So the argument is he should have put on Studge, who was utter wank a week earlier against Burnley. I agree that it would make sense to put on Studge. Klopp decided different as he probably wanted more movement and counterstrength. It didnt pay off this time. Klopp will be the first to admit that and use the experience to make us better. You will be the oppisite.... A boring moaner that will use any cheap point to prove something...
Yeah he was, but he blocked him off at first which is fine, he just put his body in the way, but then he grabbed hold of him to stop him, which is a pen.
I'm not slighting Matip btw, I was hugely impressed with him yesterday.
Hopefully Klopp can get the better of his copycat and finish above Spurs, because we usually don't.
Im not having it, watch it again, both their arms go up to grab. Not in a million years is that a pen Mark. If that was ever given id go mental.
Jansen was trying it on.
Ok, fair enough, I just though they could argue the point that's all. Ours on Matip was more clearcut. Either way, we should have fucking buried them, but typically we didn't.
I don't really get the disagreement about us being similar to Rodgers' team either. The attacking set up is more or less the same, a three pronged attack. The only difference is that Klopp has clearly tried to sort out the defense this Summer, but in equal fairness, two of our centre backs were coming to the end of their careers while another has more or less destroyed his Liverpool career, so he had no choice but to buy. As for the rest of the team, I don't see a wealth of difference. We've brought in a lightweight central midfielder and there's a clear reluctance to buy or play with a definitive defensive midfielder, while the gaping hole in the side (left back), the one position of priority going into the Summer, is being filled by a midfielder. So yeah, what's the difference really? Players out of position, imbalance and a general leaning to overstocking the attacking midfield positions while we still struggle to keep a clean sheet or to control a midfield. Oh and 6 goals conceded in 3 games.
So despite your whining, you agree that when needing a goal Sturridge was a better option yesterday ?
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There is significant difference in Klopps style and Rodgers. One of the main once are that we chase the ball higher up the field With the intention of putting their Box under immense pressure if we win the ball back high up the field. Another is that we play much more through their pressure lines than Rodgers did. Defenders move the ball through their midfield to one of Our attacking midfileder, and the rest of the team follows path. Rodgers style was more to play the ball around opposition.
Six against is too much, but at the same time we have had few chances against us. So it can be a little bit coincident. SOme of the goals have been very sloppy defending, which is easy to adress. Its not like we have been under constant pressure and finally they broke Down the defence. Which in many ways are encouraging taken into account we have met Arsenal and Spurs away, two teams With strong attacking capabilities.
The biggest difference is that we actually look like we have a plan and have bought players to fit into that approach. It will obviously take time but its slowly starting to look like the players understand our own tactic (bar Burnley). Our transfer strategy also reflects Klopps thinking.
Wijnaldum can operate in about every attacking position and its his versatility and obvious talent that made us sign him.
I dont see to many similarities in all honesty.
This topic will be divided in to two groups I reckon. Those who defend Rodgers and those who "dont".
The truth is probably somewhere inbetween.
Wijnaldum can operate in about every attacking position and its his versatility and obvious talent that made us sign him.
I dont see to many similarities in all honesty.
This topic will be divided in to two groups I reckon. Those who defend Rodgers and those who "dont".
The truth is probably somewhere inbetween.
I cant see that I agreed to that. I said it could make sense to put on Studge, depending on what you look for. You say we needed a goal. It is always Nice With a goal, but when you are 1-0 up away against a strong team you dont need a goal. You need someone to help you hold on to the lead.
Putting on Daniel Sturridge will always makes sense. He is a class player. Doesnt mean it makes more sense than put on Oirgi does it? Unless you need a goal and keep on feeding the striker inside the Box, which was not the case yesterday.
Rodgers had two different set ups.
One was a Barcelona inspired "death by football" with Joe Allen being the key. I don't think we're currently anything like that now. Even Rodgers gave up on that in the end...
The second that nearly brought us the title was Dortmund inspired. So, I think there have to be some similarities with what we're trying to do now.
Was left-back the one position of priority this summer? My top top priorities this summer would have been a new centre-half and goalie.
I don't think anyone would disagree that Sturridge is a better finisher than Origi or Firmino. It's not close either.
We didn't need a goal when Origi came on. We needed one a mere minute after he came on like, but at the time we didn't.
He has a real nasty streak does Alli. There are a few reds on his future.
One game ? He played 22 mins yesterday!
Since nobody has mentioned it I should point out that Rose has admitted he mishit that shot, slicing it badly off his shin. It was just Sod's Law that it went in at the near post.
The only thing you can accuse Ming of so far this season is Bad Luck. And if he was a pirate he would be hung, drawn and quartered for that !
Let's do it
Am I the only one that thought Spurs battered us in the second half and the equaliser was coming for a long time?
Yes.
Spurs had a good 15 mins in both halves. We had by far the better of the other hour.
I'm not sure thats accurate.
Interesting things in here for me:
- Lack of passes between Lovren and Matip
- Matip seemingly bypassing the CMs to get it up to Lallana
- Nothing from Mignolet to the fullbacks
Mignolet passed to Milner a good few times and to Clyne a couple of times too
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