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Tottenham v Liverpool Post Match Thread

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I'm not sure thats accurate.

Mignolet passed to Milner a good few times and to Clyne a couple of times too

Needs 4 or more passes for a line to appear, so if it happened it wasn't enough to trigger the line.
 
Fail of stats diagram..

If that's anything to go by, Lallana is a crab, and fimino spend most of the game in Coutinho back pocket.. Literally..
 
Well he passed to Milner 5 times

I thought Mignolet's distribution was pretty good all game really. He had a good game and made a few great stops.

I was also pretty amazed at how much Spurs used the route one approach from keeper to front men.
 
I thought Mignolet's distribution was pretty good all game really. He had a good game and made a few great stops.

I was also pretty amazed at how much Spurs used the route one approach from keeper to front men.
Route one balls are a simple way to ensure our pressing doesn't throw up good opportunities to hit them on the break.

And given how prone to mistakes we have been - its not a terrible idea.
 
Route one balls are a simple way to ensure our pressing doesn't throw up good opportunities to hit them on the break.

And given how prone to mistakes we have been - its not a terrible idea.

I know, it didn't really stop us hitting them on the break though, our best opportunities came from exactly that.
 
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Interesting things in here for me:
  • Lack of passes between Lovren and Matip
  • Matip seemingly bypassing the CMs to get it up to Lallana
  • Nothing from Mignolet to the fullbacks
Also notice how involved Wijnaldum was as a fulcrum for attacks from the left/centre.
 
Also notice how involved Wijnaldum was as a fulcrum for attacks from the left/centre.
I presume the circle is indicative of how much of the ball they had.

That would tally with the impression i had during the game that Milner was much more influential.
 
I thought Mignolet's distribution was pretty good all game really. He had a good game and made a few great stops.

I was also pretty amazed at how much Spurs used the route one approach from keeper to front men.

They didnt cope to well with our pressing either and we created quite a number of counter attacks.

They also look a lot less creative as a team with Direr and Wanyama both starting. It was the same I noticed when they played Everton and Palace.
 
I presume the circle is indicative of how much of the ball they had.

That would tally with the impression i had during the game that Milner was much more influential.
Indeed - which is why I had him down as MoM (as did the BBC). However my point there was Wijnaldum's involvement when some on here have criticised him. I thought he was quietly effective doing what he was asked to do.
 
He was decent. I like how strong he is on the ball.

I don't think we can really criticise him when he's being asked to sacrifice some of his normal game.
 
Indeed - which is why I had him down as MoM (as did the BBC). However my point there was Wijnaldum's involvement when some on here have criticised him. I thought he was quietly effective doing what he was asked to do.

I can understand why people are a bit perplexed about him at the moment. He's not really excelling particularly at anything and he's alot deeper than he should be, so his goal threat isn't really coming into play. He's doing ok, I'd like to see him in a more advance role to see what he can offer, but we already have a wealth of options there.
 
@OptaJoe
12.5 - Adam Lallana ran 12.5km in the match against Spurs, the most ground covered by any PL player in a game this season. Energy.

[article]Jurgen Klopp’s first pre-season campaign at Anfield has brought Liverpool’s players up to the fitness standards he wants.

His team ran more than 71.8 miles between them earning their 1-1 draw at Tottenham – the third time in as many games they have topped the 70 miles standard which Klopp sets as a workrate target.

Last season after Klopp’s arrival brought an initial boost to the figure they slipped back to typically log around 65 miles per game.[/article]
 
Indeed - which is why I had him down as MoM (as did the BBC). However my point there was Wijnaldum's involvement when some on here have criticised him. I thought he was quietly effective doing what he was asked to do.

Its interesting that the majority of the arrows are going to him, which would suggest he was good at making himself option for others as we attacked. I only saw bits and pieces of the game so hard to comment too much. I like the diagram though although sounds like it might be slightly flawed.
 
Ref: Robert Madley
It seems that we cannot go a single weekend without the dreaded new insistence on penalty box marshalling. On the one hand, things have been getting ridiculous in the box for years and it’s about time something was done about it. On the the other hand, it can really mar a splendid refereeing performance, as proven, by the unsuspecting Robert Madley.
Madley was having a fine game, agreeing with a tight offside call in the lead up to what would have been Liverpool’s second goal. His eagle-eyed assistant referee spotted that Adam Lallana was offside in the lead-up, and the goal was rightly ruled out. Then Madley correctly awarded Liverpool a penalty after Erik Lamela’s clumsy challenge on a top-knotted Roberto Firmino.
It was a corner that proved his downfall however. Just as the ball was whipped in, there was a skirmish involving Tottenham’s Jan Vertoghen and Liverpool’s Joel Matip. Marley blew his whistle to stop play, zeroing in on the players to give the Belgian a warning. Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp couldn’t believe his eyes: neither could the pundits on Match of the Day.
It was a bizarre decision by Madley to dish out warnings after an incident so blatant that he felt he needed to stop play. Surely the players are aware of what they shouldn’t be doing, and doling second chances and finger wags defeats the purpose of catching mischievous players in the act?
Grade: B-. The lack of consistency in penalty box incidents continues.
Mark Halsey’s Verdict
There was confusion all around when Vertonghen pulled Matip’s shirt, he was almost wrestling him more than anything else. This was one of the worst of the lot and Bob’s got one of the basic laws wrong.
He spotted the offence when the ball was in the play, he blows his whistle AFTER the corner has been taken and gives Vertonghen a warning. Then he restarts play with another corner, the ball is in play so by law he has to restart play with a penalty. The foul was committed before the ball was in play but you can clearly see Bobby doesn’t blow his whistle until the ball is active.
I suppose you could say he’s bottled giving the penalty and that’s what Jurgen Klopp is moaning about, you don’t know what you’re going to get from which referee and he would have got a lot of praise if he’d given a penalty – nobody would have complained. There’s no clear leadership coming from the PGMOL, they’ve been told to referee on their principles but obviously someone like Mike Dean has very different principles to other referees.
 
To be fair he probably should have had 3 assists in this game - the peno, the early Coutinho chance and the late Wijnaldum chance. When he does actually get the ball in and around the box he is pretty effective but my slight issue so far this season is that he is often failing to find space or actually get onto the ball enough.
 
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