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He wasn't an awful keeper, but Mignolet is better at shot stopping than reina in recent years.
If Mignolet could command a box like reina then we'd have one hell of a player.
Ming has much better stats than Reina this season so no. Shot stopping is still the key attribute imho.
And I've seen him play quite a bit for Napoli, he's not good enough anymore.
Going back to Reina would be step backwards imho.
I love Reina and he was immense for us for many years, but its time to move on.
He's not good enough anymore and will only decline further. Ming is the future and will only improve.
And I've seen him play quite a bit for Napoli, he's not good enough anymore.
Going back to Reina would be step backwards imho.
I love Reina and he was immense for us for many years, but its time to move on.
He's not good enough anymore and will only decline further. Ming is the future and will only improve.
Maybe so, and I had no problem at all with Reina, but ultimately Reina is 31. Yes, we could have got a few more years out of him, but would still need to replace him soon anyway.
As you say, there is not much between Mignolet and Reina in terms of current form, so surely better to stick with the younger guy who can still improve.
Or think about possibly going back to the veteran. Reina may have depleting athleticism, but his instincts and technique were the best the club has seen in about 30 years.
United signed van der Saar when he was 35 and he won 4 titles with them.
Shot-stopping isn't everything, and it's not like Reina was some awful shot stopper.
Van Der Saar was a really good shot stopper though at that age, and had the benefit of playing in front of an excellent backline etc. Reina won't have that, and has struggled at times in Italy with the exact same issues he had with us last year. Bringing him back won't be happening - but I do hope Mignolet can improve on the aspects of his game where, as you mention, Reina was amongst the best the club had seen.
I'm not entirely keen on bringing Reina back either, but I just hope we haven't signed the wrong replacement for him.
Shot-stopping is generally something most top-flight keepers are great at. Al Habsi, Begovic, Vorm, Stekelenburg are all great shot-stoppers as well.
That doesn't make them top keepers. Top keepers marshall their defence, command the box, inspire confidence, are good at judging when to come off the line, and are good at distributing the ball.
I don't know why these are described as 'other' aspects. These are THE fundamental aspects of goalkeeping. Competent shot-stopping is of course a bare minimum. Exceptional shot-stopping however is a bonus; but not enough to compensate for the lack of more fundamental aspects of keeping (which are concerned more with limiting errors rather than saving the team's ass).
Shot-stopping is generally something most top-flight keepers are great at. Al Habsi, Begovic, Vorm, Stekelenburg are all great shot-stoppers as well.
That doesn't make them top keepers. Top keepers marshall their defence, command the box, inspire confidence, are good at judging when to come off the line, and are good at distributing the ball.
I don't know why these are described as 'other' aspects. These are THE fundamental aspects of goalkeeping. Competent shot-stopping is of course a bare minimum. Exceptional shot-stopping however is a bonus; but not enough to compensate for the lack of more fundamental aspects of keeping (which are concerned more with limiting errors rather than saving the team's ass).
Think I'll just have to flat out disagree with you dmish. Shot stopping is one of the (if not THE) most important things on a top flight keeper. Organising the defence is not solely the keepers job, it should also be the job of a cb.
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We had a shite day today.
Pretty sure I saw us score four goals & pick up three points though, so as shite days go, it's about the best you can hope for.
It'd kill me, possibly literally, but 11 more of them & with a bit of luck elsewhere we could easily be in the running for the title.
That's Fulham & today we've defended very badly in, but we've the luxury of trying to fix it all week without worrying about having to try to desperately get points to keep spurs at bay.
Relax, be happy, enjoy your week, let's worry about the defence next week IF we have to.
Also, as an aside, Rodgers has now twice made big impacts in games using his subs, something he didn't used to be able to do, so there's many reasons to be positive.
Pretty sure I saw us score four goals & pick up three points though, so as shite days go, it's about the best you can hope for.
It'd kill me, possibly literally, but 11 more of them & with a bit of luck elsewhere we could easily be in the running for the title.
That's Fulham & today we've defended very badly in, but we've the luxury of trying to fix it all week without worrying about having to try to desperately get points to keep spurs at bay.
Relax, be happy, enjoy your week, let's worry about the defence next week IF we have to.
Also, as an aside, Rodgers has now twice made big impacts in games using his subs, something he didn't used to be able to do, so there's many reasons to be positive.
We should have signed Lloris like I was beging to do 2-3 years ago. Excellent keeper and went for peanuts
Maybe if Mignolet was really awful then yes, I might agree. But you said yourself that there was little between them at the moment. So what would be the point of bringing back an older player who was not a great deal better?
As I said in the post afterwards, I'm not entirely keen on bringing Reina back either. I'm just worried we've signed the wrong player as his replacement. If Mignolet keeps at this form, it's possibly worth considering bringing Reina back. If wages weren't such an issue, you'd find the age argument losing strength.
Oh, ye of little faith.
Erm, I covered your arse there Holle. My anti-jinxing dance obviously saved the result.
Consider this: had we not drawn those villa and West Brom games,we'd be top if the table now on gd. Just to give you an idea of how close the next few weeks could be. Chelsea and City are not better than us. If we keep our lads fit, without injury, the lack of CL football could be the equalizer for lack of depth.
Post match press conference.
http://press.lfc.vn/rodgers-post-swansea-press-s14-w27/
"Mistakes", "poor goals", "decision-making ..." and he responded that Agger was taken off for his inability to deal with Bony. I think one or two centre-halves are still on borrowed time despite what many may be thinking. There will be major changes in the summer, I tell you (look back to Dudek being dropped after the heroics of Istanbul).
http://press.lfc.vn/rodgers-post-swansea-press-s14-w27/
"Mistakes", "poor goals", "decision-making ..." and he responded that Agger was taken off for his inability to deal with Bony. I think one or two centre-halves are still on borrowed time despite what many may be thinking. There will be major changes in the summer, I tell you (look back to Dudek being dropped after the heroics of Istanbul).
They're all poor mate, and the defensive coaching is too. Agger ducks out of too many challenges, it's easy to avoid fucking up when your game is solely dependent on reading the game, he never covers ground or strays to cover up openings, and when he does he usually gets caught out (cf his tackle in the second half when he, for once, strayed out from the back and clumsily tackled from behind). Skrtel is the opposite, he mops up all over and over stretches himself, he was poor today but as I've said a million times, when Johnson plays we never tuck in as a unit, he leaves us too open and the centre backs get stretched as a consequence.
We need to sort it out, we need to get Sakho back and fit and see where we go from there, Skrtel is just about keeping his head above water because he covers so much ground, but neither he, Agger or Toure look like the answer.
Rodgers' press conference basically says "I took Agger off b/c he couldn't handle Bony." He'll be going to Barca, or City, for 10 million.
Serious, LTW.
Can you see him getting a sniff into Barcelona's or City's team?
Because I can't.
I'm trying to not do this to myself, mate... That VIlla game was actually a point gained, rather than two dropped - We should have been 0-4 down, before we scored our first. So, I'm not counting that as an "if only" match. But that fucking West Brom game... THAT fucking pass. We'd be two off the top if Toure had just hoofed the fucking thing. THAT'S the one that keeps me awake at night.
I'd be really surprised if City went after him or Skrtel again. Barca on the other hand, well they're renowned for putting the offensive ability of their defenders above their defensive strengths, so who knows.
Silly thing to infer Brendan. Isn't Agger just back from injury?
He'll do very well in La Liga - slower paced, where defenders who aren't great defenders (Pique for example) or who aren't even defenders (Mascherano) hold their own with ease.
Good point DR. The plus is we've got plenty of good fortune too. And your point about Villa makes W Brom easier to take!
On a completely diff sidebar, me and the missus are thinking of moving to Texas. Would like to hear your views if you have any!
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