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Needs time to settle and those who say he has a clumsy first touch are clearly clueless. He's technically very good but is lacking some confidence currently plus the whole team is playing shite

Yep, I see nothing wrong with his touch. He has controlled the ball immediately any time he has received it. It's just that he has shunted the ball back to where it came from as quickly as he got it.

I'm still waiting for the moment when he blows us away. It will happen and we'll see the player I him emerge.
 
I liked that run he did against Madrid. Needs to improve his decision making but he's v young and it'll come
 
It'll be next season before we see anything worthwhile from this lad. And that's ok by me.
 
Maybe we should have loaned him out. Possibly to a championship club. Like Derby. Let's see if he can consistently get games and chip in with goals and assists.
 
Just count this season as an adjusting period. He'll start strutting his stuff next season. Like Lamela at Spurs.
 
Lamela is still bollocks..

One fancy goal against some European part timers doesn't change that.
 
I don't think Lamela's useless, but he's not suited here. His real problem is that he shouldn't have left Serie A.
 
[Has visions of a ball being kicked out of play in the direction of the bench and Markovic standing up and volleying it past Courtois.]
[Actually that would do him a power of good.]
 
I think the problem with a lot of the new signings is that they saw themselves walking in to a team that could just about win a title and thought they would have an easy go supplementing the team here and there or slotting right in to a well oiled machine. Instead they have come in to a team that needs everything they have to even come close to the level it was at last year. Of all our signings, I think only Lovren could have reasonably thought that he would be coming in and be expected to make a huge difference in an area that was incredibly weak. Our other defensive signings are young enough to not have to reasonably expect to immediately come in and right the ship.
 
Maybe we should have loaned him out. Possibly to a championship club. Like Derby. Let's see if he can consistently get games and chip in with goals and assists.

He cost 20million. We aren't going to sign him for that fee and give him straight to Derby County on loan.
 
I can't get over how shite he appears to be.

Only 20, new country, needs time ...blah blah blah but fucking hell he doesn't appear to have one stand out quality. £20m is money we really can't afford to be wasting.
 
I can't get over how shite he appears to be.

Only 20, new country, needs time ...blah blah blah but fucking hell he doesn't appear to have one stand out quality. £20m is money we really can't afford to be wasting.
It always struck me as an unnecessary signing. I have more faith in every one of our other summer signings, including Balotelli, than I have in Markovic.
 
Thought that was a reference to Ibe


It was, made badly after a bit too much drink.

Why spend £20 million on this lad when we have potential in Ibe only to send him on loan. Either he should have kept Ibe around and give him the minutes or left Markovic where he was and learn more about the game.
 
It's certainly possible. However Smicer was never very quick. Markovic is rapid at full burst. He hasn't shown his pace much because he isn't very quick off the bat or over short distances (which is what you need to be when playing on the wing). He's the sort who gains pace with momentum. Running from deep would therefore suit his game much more.

Also Smicer joined us when he was about 26 - at his physical prime. Markovic is only 20, and should have plenty of time to add more muscle to his frame.

I'm not going to disagree with your entire post on this one point but I'd say that part in bold is completely wrong.

Whenever I've seen him on the international stage it's his pace over 10 to 30 metres which makes him dangerous. I'd rarely seen him at club level but, on those couple of occasions he did nothing over a distance.

He's not a rhythm runner - he's a power runner. This was summed up by his effort against Madrid when he made an incisive run straight through the centre against their midfield. By the time he made it to Varane he was actually slowing down rather than getting any faster which is exactly what a power runner does. Varane is as quick a CB as I've seen but Markovic actually looked like Carra by the time he reached him.

I think Markovic shows very good touch and control. He's also got good pace though he's not Henry and going to run away from people the further he travels. For me the problems with him just now are two.

1. He doesn't work nearly hard enough - particularly without the ball and, more particularly, when he loses the ball.
2. He has a tendency to run down blind alleys - reminiscent of Diouf in some ways which is very concerning.

One seems easily corrected with some coaching - it just needs to be drilled into him that he has to work, work, work. The other is more difficult and probably accentuated by playing on the wing. I would imagine this is why his best position is in the middle where he has more options. If he runs down a blind alley out on the wing he can be isolated but in the middle he has more opportunities.

Now that you've raised it I'm keen to see next time he plays what sort of awareness he has when he's got the ball at his feet. I always remember Rafa going nuts about Baros and his propensity to look down and not see what was going on around him when he had the ball at his feet.

I think there's plenty of talent in there - it's just a question of whether it's usable talent or does he need a little more time in order to be effective. He's not going to get that time in England so, for me, that's the key question regarding his value for us.
 
I like the look of him. I was expecting a damn sight more I will admit, but there's something in there.

What does concern me is that he just doesn't look sharp or fit enough though. Even just looking at his physique frightens me. He's not built, he's not strong, he doesn't look lean. He looks like a 5-a-side player right now.

Get in the gym, get fucking sharp, and get a set of balls.
 
See, my earlier posts on him were that I thought he seemed scared or didn't have the courage to really go at it and certainly wasn't working hard enough.

Now I suspect the reason he gives the ball straight back most of the time is because he doesn't see any other options. He needs to have more vision - before the ball comes to him.
 
I like the look of him. I was expecting a damn sight more I will admit, but there's something in there.

What does concern me is that he just doesn't look sharp or fit enough though. Even just looking at his physique frightens me. He's not built, he's not strong, he doesn't look lean. He looks like a 5-a-side player right now.

Get in the gym, get fucking sharp, and get a set of balls.

What do you like about him? I see nothing to get exited about him as a player. I hope that comment comes back to haunt me in the years to come i really do.
 
It's impossible to judge players on very brief glimpses but every so often I do; I didn't like Sakho from his first full game for us, I never gave up on Henderson because I saw him dominate a game for Sunderland against Chelsea and saw huge potential that day.

I saw Markovic play in a pre-world cup friendly for Serbia against Brazil and I'm almost positive there's a world class talent in there somewhere despite the fact he's been poor so far. I saw enough in that game to think he's gonna be a star for us. I like the Nedved comparison someone made earlier in this thread because in the Serbia v Brazil game all his good work was done down the middle.

.........................................A Good Goalkeeper.................................
Flanagan.............Skrtel....................Lovren.....................Moreno
................................Can..............Henderson................................
..........Sterling....................Markovic.............Lallana...........................
..................................Sturridge....................................................

The above line up would probably prove very successful; obviously the 3 behind Sturridge can be rotated to include Coutinho and/or Gerrard and the Can/Henderson axis can be rotated to include Joe Allen.
 
I'm not going to disagree with your entire post on this one point but I'd say that part in bold is completely wrong.

Whenever I've seen him on the international stage it's his pace over 10 to 30 metres which makes him dangerous. I'd rarely seen him at club level but, on those couple of occasions he did nothing over a distance.

He's not a rhythm runner - he's a power runner. This was summed up by his effort against Madrid when he made an incisive run straight through the centre against their midfield. By the time he made it to Varane he was actually slowing down rather than getting any faster which is exactly what a power runner does. Varane is as quick a CB as I've seen but Markovic actually looked like Carra by the time he reached him.

I think Markovic shows very good touch and control. He's also got good pace though he's not Henry and going to run away from people the further he travels. For me the problems with him just now are two.

1. He doesn't work nearly hard enough - particularly without the ball and, more particularly, when he loses the ball.
2. He has a tendency to run down blind alleys - reminiscent of Diouf in some ways which is very concerning.

One seems easily corrected with some coaching - it just needs to be drilled into him that he has to work, work, work. The other is more difficult and probably accentuated by playing on the wing. I would imagine this is why his best position is in the middle where he has more options. If he runs down a blind alley out on the wing he can be isolated but in the middle he has more opportunities.

Now that you've raised it I'm keen to see next time he plays what sort of awareness he has when he's got the ball at his feet. I always remember Rafa going nuts about Baros and his propensity to look down and not see what was going on around him when he had the ball at his feet.

I think there's plenty of talent in there - it's just a question of whether it's usable talent or does he need a little more time in order to be effective. He's not going to get that time in England so, for me, that's the key question regarding his value for us.

I don't know the technicalities of the difference between a power runner and a rhythm runner.

My point was that he's someone who's quicker over the second 10 yards than the first. And that's certainly what I've observed from what I've seen of him.

Of course we haven't seen too much him; so the sample size is limited. Happy to be corrected in future.
 
I don't really understand the hype surrounding this piece of shit named Markovic. He was shit for Benfica, average for Partizan Belgrade, average for his national team and we paid a whopping 20 fucking mil for him. What a load of bollocks. Fuck off to whoever in the committee or BR himself.

Lumbering piece of shit.
 
Your eloquence and the singular way you express your opinion really makes your mental age very transparent.
 
What do you like about him? I see nothing to get exited about him as a player. I hope that comment comes back to haunt me in the years to come i really do.


He has good technique, he has an eye for a pass, possesses pace and finds space well. But I agree with Ryan, needs to toughen up get some confidence in him , or grow some balls as he puts it.
 
I don't really understand the hype surrounding this piece of shit named Markovic. He was shit for Benfica, average for Partizan Belgrade, average for his national team and we paid a whopping 20 fucking mil for him. What a load of bollocks. Fuck off to whoever in the committee or BR himself.

Lumbering piece of shit.

Is it time to retire this parody account and hang up it's keyboard for the last post.

Piece of shit is right.
 
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