[quote author=Sunny link=topic=47619.msg1431431#msg1431431 date=1322127287]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47619.msg1431423#msg1431423 date=1322127011]
If there's one stat that says something, then it may not be accurate. If there's 20-odd different stats that say something is true, and none that say it's not, and the vast majority of fans agree with it(evidenced by him topping numerous polls) then it's more than likely that it's true.
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Indeed. Even though most evidence points to the contrary, people make the false assumption that he's shit because he was (and he was even I thought so) and thus will always be. Some people cannot move beyond original opinion and their closed mindedness prevents them from admitting the player has improved vastly or even admit when the player has a great game. So it's really not worth debating the point with them.
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I don't think he's shit. I did think he was, and was one of his biggest critics. In recent times, I've admitted that he's improved tremendously. He's achieved a level of consistency over the past two seasons, and developed into a player, who's not worse than 'average' and can at times be very good.
He still has his deficiencies however, and that's the reason why a large number of posters still think we could do with a world class DM or enforcer in his place. I don't see why that's hard to fathom.