That's not to way Webb wasnt shite, he clearly was, but that decision was a gimme.
Liverpool v Scummy Twatty Cunts - Official Match Thread
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So its a penalty when you get some contact that doesn't actually stop you from going forward or take you down in anyway and instead you take a couple more steps to where falling is more beneficial and then do. It was a blatant dive and before then we looked the team in the ascendancy. The amount of calls against us and the none for us in the first half was laughable and I can't help but feel like the team that would have won without all the girly new additions to the game didnt.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=39432.msg1074277#msg1074277 date=1269186056]
Oh come on. He still had hold of his arm as he was crossing teh line into the area pulling him back. So he fell into the area & he started pulling out of it, it's still a pen.
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You doing your Richard Keys impersonation?
Dont forget to through in a chuckle here and there.
Oh come on. He still had hold of his arm as he was crossing teh line into the area pulling him back. So he fell into the area & he started pulling out of it, it's still a pen.
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You doing your Richard Keys impersonation?
Dont forget to through in a chuckle here and there.
It wasn't a pen!
Talk about consistency... He gave a free kick after that for a foul after he'd played advantage... he pulled it back for the 1st offense.
Exactly what he DIDN'T do for the Pen.
We were average with half the team under performing and rightly should be worried about their futures.... Howard was really poor however. Possibly over used in the big games.
Talk about consistency... He gave a free kick after that for a foul after he'd played advantage... he pulled it back for the 1st offense.
Exactly what he DIDN'T do for the Pen.
We were average with half the team under performing and rightly should be worried about their futures.... Howard was really poor however. Possibly over used in the big games.
[quote author=Assulin link=topic=39432.msg1074284#msg1074284 date=1269186181]
So its a penalty when you get some contact that doesn't actually stop you from going forward or take you down in anyway and instead you take a couple more steps to where falling is more beneficial and then do. It was a blatant dive and before then we looked the team in the ascendancy. The amount of calls against us and the none for us in the first half was laughable and I can't help but feel like the team that would have won without all the girly new additions to the game didnt.
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Gerrard has done it plenty of times in the past to win us the points.
So its a penalty when you get some contact that doesn't actually stop you from going forward or take you down in anyway and instead you take a couple more steps to where falling is more beneficial and then do. It was a blatant dive and before then we looked the team in the ascendancy. The amount of calls against us and the none for us in the first half was laughable and I can't help but feel like the team that would have won without all the girly new additions to the game didnt.
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Gerrard has done it plenty of times in the past to win us the points.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=39432.msg1074277#msg1074277 date=1269186056]
Oh come on. He still had hold of his arm as he was crossing teh line into the area pulling him back. So he fell into the area & he started pulling out of it, it's still a pen.
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No he wasn't mate, he let go just before he got into the box, it was showed on replays to prove this
Oh come on. He still had hold of his arm as he was crossing teh line into the area pulling him back. So he fell into the area & he started pulling out of it, it's still a pen.
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No he wasn't mate, he let go just before he got into the box, it was showed on replays to prove this
[quote author=livvy185 link=topic=39432.msg1074286#msg1074286 date=1269186219]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=39432.msg1074277#msg1074277 date=1269186056]
Oh come on. He still had hold of his arm as he was crossing teh line into the area pulling him back. So he fell into the area & he started pulling out of it, it's still a pen.
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You doing your Richard Keys impersonation?
Dont forget to through in a chuckle here and there.
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You're being blinded by bias. If it were the other way you'd agree.
He pulled him back incredibly blatantly as he went into the area, he fell down in the area. That's not the ref calling it wonrgly, it's him seeing Mascher pull him back as the ran into the area, it was a pen.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=39432.msg1074277#msg1074277 date=1269186056]
Oh come on. He still had hold of his arm as he was crossing teh line into the area pulling him back. So he fell into the area & he started pulling out of it, it's still a pen.
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You doing your Richard Keys impersonation?
Dont forget to through in a chuckle here and there.
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You're being blinded by bias. If it were the other way you'd agree.
He pulled him back incredibly blatantly as he went into the area, he fell down in the area. That's not the ref calling it wonrgly, it's him seeing Mascher pull him back as the ran into the area, it was a pen.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=39432.msg1074277#msg1074277 date=1269186056]
Oh come on. He still had hold of his arm as he was crossing teh line into the area pulling him back. So he fell into the area & he started pulling out of it, it's still a pen.
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FFF is right.
Oh come on. He still had hold of his arm as he was crossing teh line into the area pulling him back. So he fell into the area & he started pulling out of it, it's still a pen.
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FFF is right.
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[quote author=livvy185 link=topic=39432.msg1074286#msg1074286 date=1269186219]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=39432.msg1074277#msg1074277 date=1269186056]
Oh come on. He still had hold of his arm as he was crossing teh line into the area pulling him back. So he fell into the area & he started pulling out of it, it's still a pen.
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You doing your Richard Keys impersonation?
Dont forget to through in a chuckle here and there.
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You're being blinded by bias. If it were the other way you'd agree.
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No I wouldn't. The foul was comitted outside the box, it matters not where Valencia fell. The linesman got it wrong.
Anyway, it's all immaterial, we lost and they will most likely win number 19.
[quote author=livvy185 link=topic=39432.msg1074286#msg1074286 date=1269186219]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=39432.msg1074277#msg1074277 date=1269186056]
Oh come on. He still had hold of his arm as he was crossing teh line into the area pulling him back. So he fell into the area & he started pulling out of it, it's still a pen.
[/quote]
You doing your Richard Keys impersonation?
Dont forget to through in a chuckle here and there.
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You're being blinded by bias. If it were the other way you'd agree.
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No I wouldn't. The foul was comitted outside the box, it matters not where Valencia fell. The linesman got it wrong.
Anyway, it's all immaterial, we lost and they will most likely win number 19.
My views on today;
Not a pen.
From 30 minutes on we were shite, shame as UTD were the definition of average and there for the taking.
Kuyt isn't a right fucking winger, never will be and right now needs a few games on the bench. Benitez doesn't have a plan B.
Howard Webb is a twat (pen or no pen).
Gerrard needs a kick up the arse (along with half of the others out there today).
The result was fair as we didn't create enough....2 shots on in total? That's pathetic.
We ain't getting 4th.
I should have stayed in bed.
Not a pen.
From 30 minutes on we were shite, shame as UTD were the definition of average and there for the taking.
Kuyt isn't a right fucking winger, never will be and right now needs a few games on the bench. Benitez doesn't have a plan B.
Howard Webb is a twat (pen or no pen).
Gerrard needs a kick up the arse (along with half of the others out there today).
The result was fair as we didn't create enough....2 shots on in total? That's pathetic.
We ain't getting 4th.
I should have stayed in bed.
I'm now convinced gerrard is saving himself for the world cup. his effort today was shocking.
What a lovely header by Torres though...
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=39432.msg1074324#msg1074324 date=1269186893]
What a lovely header by Torres though...
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it was exquisite.
What a lovely header by Torres though...
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it was exquisite.
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Squiggles
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Mascherano has cost us this fixture twice now.
He gave the option of Webb giving the penalty. Tugging back, on the penalty line, with the player in full flow, at Old Trafford. It was inevitable.
We need to be smarter than that, and that starts with not shying away from personal responsibility.
He gave the option of Webb giving the penalty. Tugging back, on the penalty line, with the player in full flow, at Old Trafford. It was inevitable.
We need to be smarter than that, and that starts with not shying away from personal responsibility.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=39432.msg1074329#msg1074329 date=1269186999]
Mascherano has cost us this fixture twice now.
He gave the option of Webb giving the penalty. Tugging back, the penalty line, with the player in full flow, at Old Trafford.
It was inevitable. We need to be smarter than that, and that starts with not shying away from personal responsibility.
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Why did Mascherano have to chase Valencia ?
That's the real problem.
Mascherano has cost us this fixture twice now.
He gave the option of Webb giving the penalty. Tugging back, the penalty line, with the player in full flow, at Old Trafford.
It was inevitable. We need to be smarter than that, and that starts with not shying away from personal responsibility.
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Why did Mascherano have to chase Valencia ?
That's the real problem.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=39432.msg1074332#msg1074332 date=1269187044]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=39432.msg1074329#msg1074329 date=1269186999]
Mascherano has cost us this fixture twice now.
He gave the option of Webb giving the penalty. Tugging back, the penalty line, with the player in full flow, at Old Trafford.
It was inevitable. We need to be smarter than that, and that starts with not shying away from personal responsibility.
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Why did Mascherano have to chase Valencia ?
That's the real problem.
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^^^
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=39432.msg1074329#msg1074329 date=1269186999]
Mascherano has cost us this fixture twice now.
He gave the option of Webb giving the penalty. Tugging back, the penalty line, with the player in full flow, at Old Trafford.
It was inevitable. We need to be smarter than that, and that starts with not shying away from personal responsibility.
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Why did Mascherano have to chase Valencia ?
That's the real problem.
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^^^
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=39432.msg1074329#msg1074329 date=1269186999]
Mascherano has cost us this fixture twice now.
He gave the option of Webb giving the penalty. Tugging back, on the penalty line, with the player in full flow, at Old Trafford. It was inevitable.
We need to be smarter than that, and that starts with not shying away from personal responsibility.
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While I totally agree it was very stupid, what cost us this fixture was only creating 1 chance in the 80 minutes of football that followed that.
Mascherano has cost us this fixture twice now.
He gave the option of Webb giving the penalty. Tugging back, on the penalty line, with the player in full flow, at Old Trafford. It was inevitable.
We need to be smarter than that, and that starts with not shying away from personal responsibility.
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While I totally agree it was very stupid, what cost us this fixture was only creating 1 chance in the 80 minutes of football that followed that.
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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39432.msg1073960#msg1073960 date=1269172053]
"1) If Ferguson has any sense he'll play Nani or Valencia directly againt Insewer, and the raping will commence.
2) Awful CM, as usual.
We will get beaten"
How come I'm not Liverpool manager?
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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39432.msg1073960#msg1073960 date=1269172053]
"1) If Ferguson has any sense he'll play Nani or Valencia directly againt Insewer, and the raping will commence.
2) Awful CM, as usual.
We will get beaten"
How come I'm not Liverpool manager?
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[quote author=Assulin link=topic=39432.msg1074346#msg1074346 date=1269187592]
Cause you'd be worse then a dead dog trying to hump a moose. You'd find yourself exactly where Benitez is but with different tactics. Too stubborn to change and too blind to admit you're wrong and fuck off.[/quote]
Rafa or Brendan?
Cause you'd be worse then a dead dog trying to hump a moose. You'd find yourself exactly where Benitez is but with different tactics. Too stubborn to change and too blind to admit you're wrong and fuck off.[/quote]
Rafa or Brendan?
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=39432.msg1074349#msg1074349 date=1269187675]
[quote author=Assulin link=topic=39432.msg1074346#msg1074346 date=1269187592]
Cause you'd be worse then a dead dog trying to hump a moose. You'd find yourself exactly where Benitez is but with different tactics. Too stubborn to change and too blind to admit you're wrong and fuck off.[/quote]
Rafa or Brendan?
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ha ha
[quote author=Assulin link=topic=39432.msg1074346#msg1074346 date=1269187592]
Cause you'd be worse then a dead dog trying to hump a moose. You'd find yourself exactly where Benitez is but with different tactics. Too stubborn to change and too blind to admit you're wrong and fuck off.[/quote]
Rafa or Brendan?
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ha ha
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=39432.msg1074349#msg1074349 date=1269187675]
[quote author=Assulin link=topic=39432.msg1074346#msg1074346 date=1269187592]
Cause you'd be worse then a dead dog trying to hump a moose. You'd find yourself exactly where Benitez is but with different tactics. Too stubborn to change and too blind to admit you're wrong and fuck off.[/quote]
Rafa or Brendan?
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yes
[quote author=Assulin link=topic=39432.msg1074346#msg1074346 date=1269187592]
Cause you'd be worse then a dead dog trying to hump a moose. You'd find yourself exactly where Benitez is but with different tactics. Too stubborn to change and too blind to admit you're wrong and fuck off.[/quote]
Rafa or Brendan?
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yes
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Squiggles
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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=39432.msg1074332#msg1074332 date=1269187044]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=39432.msg1074329#msg1074329 date=1269186999]
Mascherano has cost us this fixture twice now.
He gave the option of Webb giving the penalty. Tugging back, the penalty line, with the player in full flow, at Old Trafford.
It was inevitable. We need to be smarter than that, and that starts with not shying away from personal responsibility.
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Why did Mascherano have to chase Valencia ?
That's the real problem.
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Because Insua is a sack of shit, probably. I need to see it again to be sure.
But that absolve a senior player for giving away a stupid, stupid penalty.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=39432.msg1074329#msg1074329 date=1269186999]
Mascherano has cost us this fixture twice now.
He gave the option of Webb giving the penalty. Tugging back, the penalty line, with the player in full flow, at Old Trafford.
It was inevitable. We need to be smarter than that, and that starts with not shying away from personal responsibility.
[/quote]
Why did Mascherano have to chase Valencia ?
That's the real problem.
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Because Insua is a sack of shit, probably. I need to see it again to be sure.
But that absolve a senior player for giving away a stupid, stupid penalty.
[quote author=themn link=topic=39432.msg1074327#msg1074327 date=1269186988]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39432.msg1074318#msg1074318 date=1269186788]
I'm now convinced gerrard is saving himself for the world cup. his effort today was shocking.
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if he is saving himself for the world cup he better perform at the world cup
That's as maybe but he's often anonymous against the scum.
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39432.msg1074318#msg1074318 date=1269186788]
I'm now convinced gerrard is saving himself for the world cup. his effort today was shocking.
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if he is saving himself for the world cup he better perform at the world cup
That's as maybe but he's often anonymous against the scum.
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