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Do we have the best striking duo?

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City's strikers are impressive but only two of them are on the pitch at the same time. Has Jovetic even played this season?
 
Suarez and Sturridge are very very good but ruthless? We've been struggling to kill games off for a long time.
 
Sturridge hasn't been here that long, and he has an amazing goals-to-games ratio already. Suarez misses more but also scores plenty, plus I think the two of them are mustard together. For sure we can always improve, but I'm very optimistic about our attack. There's more to be done settling our defence down IMO.
 
Our problem is more that we have no striking depth beyond Suarez/Sturridge.

Our lack of European will be crucial to keeping those two fit and firing. We can make top 4 this year.
 
Only partnership that can match them is RVP and rooney (when both are on form obviously). I wouldn't swap our SaS for any partnership in the premiership.
 
It's stupid to only analyse the front two, but if that's what we're forced to do than yes, I think our front two are as good as any other in the league, if not better.

But obviously our rivals have a whole host of options to bring off the bench and get a goal. United bring on Wayne Rooney. We bring on Luis Alberto. That's the difference right there, and why we won't be competing for the league any time soon.
 
It's stupid to only analyse the front two, but if that's what we're forced to do than yes, I think our front two are as good as any other in the league, if not better.

But obviously our rivals have a whole host of options to bring off the bench and get a goal. United bring on Wayne Rooney. We bring on Luis Alberto. That's the difference right there, and why we won't be competing for the league any time soon.


We lack depth in attack and our midfield is weak, something BR will have to address in Jan. For now if we make top 6 till xmas I will be happy. We usually have very good second half of the season.
 
I like it @redhorizon2 ! Its a reason to be optimistic.

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The graphic above is from last season but obviously it will be noted that Suarez and Sturridge only had limited games together with each other - also that there are new strike partnerships this season.
However, Sturridge has been finding the net regularly, Suarez has stayed, Coutinho is well settled and Gerrard is getting more & more used to operating a little deeper to supply such players.
With Suarez, Coutinho and Sturridge upfront, Gerrard & Lucas operating much better as the games go on in midfield and now reinforcements at center back, we seem to have a very solid spine - and I say 'seems' because the defence is still a bit ambiguous to see if (a) Johnson is injured, (b) Will Sakho relace Agger and (c) Will Mignolet remain above Reina's performance level from last season.
Getting back to the opening graphic, there is;

  • Aguero, Negredo, Dzeko
  • Torres and loads of midfielders
  • Van Persie, Rooney & Welbeck
  • Walcott, Podolski, Giroud
  • Defoe, Soldado, Lamela

Looking at the above partnerships, Liverpool are very well placed when it comes to a 1st choice front trio or duo. If one of those 2 lads can start every game with support from Aspas & Sterling AND assuming/HOPING, that Toure, Sakho & Mignolet along with a tighter unit and organisation as a team help us concede less then perhaps we can breach that 70pts. But in terms of first choice attackers we are not worse off than the others in the League it would seem (on the basis Suarez comes back in and everyone plays as their ability dictates).
 
It's stupid to only analyse the front two, but if that's what we're forced to do than yes, I think our front two are as good as any other in the league, if not better.

But obviously our rivals have a whole host of options to bring off the bench and get a goal. United bring on Wayne Rooney. We bring on Luis Alberto. That's the difference right there, and why we won't be competing for the league any time soon.

Why are you comparing a squad player to one of United's stars ? Rooney would normally start and not be brought on ... and Coutinho/Suarez are probably our nearest equivalents (Studge being more an RvP type), so whilst not there yet I still like our front 3, played as a front three, better (Suarez, Sturridge, Countinho vs. RvP, Rooney and any other starter you want for United).
 
Why are you comparing a squad player to one of United's stars ? Rooney would normally start and not be brought on ... and Coutinho/Suarez are probably our nearest equivalents (Studge being more an RvP type), so whilst not there yet I still like our front 3, played as a front three, better (Suarez, Sturridge, Countinho vs. RvP, Rooney and any other starter you want for United).


Sturridge vs RVP
Suarez vs Rooney
Moses vs Welbeck
Coutinho vs Kagawa
Aspas vs Valencia
Sterling vs Young
Ibe vs Nani

Thoughts?

I'd say they have more experience and quality on the whole.
 
I can accept prolific.

Ruthless makes him sound like a clinical finisher, which he is not.


Ahh that old conversion ratio, RVP misses a fair load of chances himself, people still consider him a clinical finisher. I consider clinical more about the quality of the goals, and the ability to score half chances, rather than the consistency, just look at that goal against Norwich last season (the second one) now that was clinical.

This one.

 
Sturridge < RVP
Suarez > Rooney
Moses < Welbeck
Coutinho > Kagawa (only based on Kagawa not getting the time he deserves)
Aspas < Valencia
Sterling < Young
Ibe <<<< Nani

Thoughts?

I'd say they have more experience and quality on the whole.

I'd agree.
 
Sturridge vs RVP
Suarez vs Rooney
Moses vs Welbeck
Coutinho vs Kagawa
Aspas vs Valencia
Sterling vs Young
Ibe vs Nani

Thoughts?

I'd say they have more experience and quality on the whole.


Young and Nani have really been out of sorts for a while now and, although United have just renewed Nani's contract, I wouldn't be surprised to see them sidelined (as Nani often is) or sold next January/Summer. I prefer Sterling and Ibe even though they have yet to reach that level, it seems to me the potential is there for them to be better players.

Kagawa hardly gets a look in, maybe Moyes will give him more pitch time because it is surprising that a player of that quality, in a United team with a relatively weak midfield (that last season saw Ferguson bench Rooney as much as he played him), can't force his way in.

Valencia is dangerous and clearly better than Aspas, though Aspas obviously needs more time I don't think he will ever quite be at that level, Moses is a better comparison and he does have the potential to be better, even this season perhaps.

Don't think we will see RvP, Rooney and Welbeck on the pitch at the same time, so it's more like RvP+Rooney+(currently) Valencia/Young. RvP has to be the best finisher amongst them of all the players you listed above but I still like the Suarez/Sturridge/Countinho combination better, more flare, more creativity, just as dangerous, they are younger and there's more room for improvement ... and dare I say they are more likely to produce that Wow moment ?
 
Sturridge vs RVP
Suarez vs Rooney
Moses vs Welbeck
Coutinho vs Kagawa
Aspas vs Valencia
Sterling vs Young
Ibe vs Nani

Thoughts?

I'd say they have more experience and quality on the whole.


What about if we switch these two around?
Suarez vs RvP
Sturridge vs Rooney
 
Why are you comparing a squad player to one of United's stars ? Rooney would normally start and not be brought on ... and Coutinho/Suarez are probably our nearest equivalents (Studge being more an RvP type), so whilst not there yet I still like our front 3, played as a front three, better (Suarez, Sturridge, Countinho vs. RvP, Rooney and any other starter you want for United).


He hasn't been starting, not towards the end of last season, and not on the first match of this season.

United have much better strength and depth than us, and that's why the finished 28 points ahead of us last season. Isolating that point from the discussion is to completely misunderstand football.
 
He hasn't been starting, not towards the end of last season, and not on the first match of this season.

United have much better strength and depth than us, and that's why the finished 28 points ahead of us last season. Isolating that point from the discussion is to completely misunderstand football.

Bollocks. You compared Alberto to Rooney as starters .... now that's misunderstanding football !
 
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