Trent, Salah and VVD
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Isak can get fucked if that’s what he wants.
Supply and demand. Strikers like him are few and far between.
As I’m constantly reminded on here, look at what X, Y or Z earn at Man U then actual good players deserve more.
Hang on, did you not moan Salah was on too much when on 280K 🙂 ?
He has done less than Salah, spent longer out injured and been with them less than 2yrs. Come on mate, make up your mind.
I think he is good but needs another season like this year to demand that kind of money, he ain't 350k a week striker yet.
It’s not about a sensible appraisal of what he’s “worth” or a comparison with other players, it’s about his agent realising he’s one of the most sought after players in a position where there aren’t many other available options that are as good.
We’ll have every right to say “moot paying that” and he’ll have every right to say “well I’m off to play for someone who will” at which point FSG will be blamed for being tight and/or Hughes for being a lazy cunt.
This is the way.
That’s kinda my point. Everyone was pointing oh look Luke Shaw is on 706k a week let’s just pay Salah more.
Either way he won’t get it. Just like Salah and Virgil won’t get what they’re holding out for. Some players are in for a rude awakening. The financial rules and broadcasting money across the world seemingly maxed out something has to give.
Ticket prices? After all it's only inflationary
Ticket prices and schemes like fan card which is effectively a lottery ticket at £28 per fan a year and plus further Staturation of CL games + CL final in Trump land, World Crap Cup tournaments etc will mean they will keep trying to find other revenues.
Agreed Salary demands of anything over 300K is probably a non starter for most players now but that is the case now anyway.
Is it baseball where they did some sort of deferred salary - like rather than pay you loads during your career, they’ll pay you a good ongoing salary for decades even after you’ve left or retired.
Or did I make that up?
Was that a one off though or are they doing that actively in US Sports? I thought was just a one off.
I have no idea - I think I remember yer man that’s a ex American Football star that’s part owner of Burnley talking about it on Stick to Football a while back.
I don’t follow US sports.
There have been a couple contracts like that now as well as at least one I'm aware of in hockey. Time will tell if it becomes commonplace or if the leagues will stop it with their next collective bargaining agreements.
MLS has, at least twice, offered optional deferred ownership stakes, to Beckham and now to Messi, to take effect upon retirement.
I’m one of those fools who pay it. Got 3 games this season and I know I’m a lucky one. I’m currently in the queue for the Newcastle home game and know for sure I won’t get one.
It was big news last year when the Dodgers signed Ohtani and his wages were deferred. They deferred $680M of his $700M contract. He gets $2M per year until 2034, then they start paying him $68M a year from 2034 to 2044. I think they did the same kind of thing with another player recently. It's not viewed favorably by most, and I imagine this loophole will be banned eventually.
Just looked the others up. Paid more than NFL
- Juan Soto, $765,000,000 (2025-39) ...
- Shohei Ohtani, $700,000,000 (2024-33)
- Mike Trout, $426,500,000 (2019-30) *includes total commitment.
- Mookie Betts, $365,000,000 (2021-32)
- Aaron Judge, $360,000,000 (2023-31)
- Manny Machado, $350,000,000 (2023-33)
Annuity contracts have been around for years in baseball. Doubt the loophole will be closed until a team goes bust.
That is fucking mental amounts.
So how does this work? He is 30. he gets paid £2m a year till his 40. Does he then have to play on till his 50? The average retirement age of a baseball player is 30.
What is the financial sense? Top 10 baseball teams generate less income than the top 10 Prem teams but I don't see any club giving out crazy contracts like this
Every year, I continue to celebrate Bobby Bonilla day!
You've taken this 51st state thing too seriously you Yankee loving Canuck!
No, he will get paid even into his retirement. It's about cash flow and perception.
Huge up front contract number looks good for the player and agent. But cash flow implications are spread across a longer time frame and the inflation-discounted value of money paid in a decade or two reduces the actual value of the commitment.
For the player, on retirement he'll likely be in a lower-tax jurisdiction than California, which will help to recoup part of that inflation-discount.
Notably, in terms of salary cap implications, the amount is somewhat reduced in accordance with a complex calculation contained within their CBA.
I just like supporting irony and mayhem.
He is 30, so how long do will he pay for, another 4 years? Its like ticking time bomb.
Not sure what you mean. In the case of Ohtani, he's getting paid $700m USD. $680m of that is deferred for ten years and then paid out on annual installments for the following 10 years. He doesn't need to be playing. He probably doesn't even need to be alive for his estate to receive the payment.
He may still be playing when the deferred money starts but more likely not.
It is when you consider baseball is shit.
He’ll play into his late 30s and then starts getting paid once he’s retired. He’s worth so much commercially to them that they probably won’t care if he’s declined late into his contract.
