Trent, Salah and VVD
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38 clean sheets too
1000% this.
It'd break my bank that's for feckin' sure!
Is he not going to play in Europe and the cups then?
I’m being realistic. He will miss 15 games through injury.
All top footy players run their contracts down now. It's not a big deal, its just how it is. I just hope that his downturn in form wasn't because his head had been turned but because he's actually gone full torres and is just shite now. Also hope he does his ACL. And his his fucking plane crashes. I'm not bitter I just don't like the cunt any more.
Probably written this 1000 times before but my beef with Trent is that he stopped doing 95% of the things that made him the best right back in the world from 2019 - 2021. If he had kept playing the same, overlapping Salah, attacking down the right, getting into the box etc. I think he would have had big numbers the past two seasons also, and who knows maybe our PL title challenge last season looks even closer.
He stopped applying himself, and has created an aura around him. That is frustrating. He wanted to re-invent himself, Klopp also tried to embrace that but it didn't work.
I'm going to say something controversial here but for those who see all the growing toxicity around locals vs tourists going to Anfield, there is this big scouse cultural thing these days that you don't wear club colours, "scarves are for wools" etc. Yet even in the early 2000s the sea of red and scarves in the Kop made the ground electric. This is basically my attempt at the same analogy on Trent - it's not cool to try hard on the pitch, its not cool to be an athlete, its cool to play hollywood passes.
He's believes the hype, and its his right to but I think he's left a lot of money on the table by downing tools as the best right back we had probably ever seen at this club.
EDIT: I'd also add - there is probably something in not just wanting to be the local lad too. Maybe he doesn't want to be seen as a Mark Noble, a Gary Neville etc. who are the classic one club men. But the way it looks like he went about this involved becoming lazy and not using all of the elite skills he had at his disposal and worked his whole career to grow.
He stopped applying himself, and has created an aura around him. That is frustrating. He wanted to re-invent himself, Klopp also tried to embrace that but it didn't work.
I'm going to say something controversial here but for those who see all the growing toxicity around locals vs tourists going to Anfield, there is this big scouse cultural thing these days that you don't wear club colours, "scarves are for wools" etc. Yet even in the early 2000s the sea of red and scarves in the Kop made the ground electric. This is basically my attempt at the same analogy on Trent - it's not cool to try hard on the pitch, its not cool to be an athlete, its cool to play hollywood passes.
He's believes the hype, and its his right to but I think he's left a lot of money on the table by downing tools as the best right back we had probably ever seen at this club.
EDIT: I'd also add - there is probably something in not just wanting to be the local lad too. Maybe he doesn't want to be seen as a Mark Noble, a Gary Neville etc. who are the classic one club men. But the way it looks like he went about this involved becoming lazy and not using all of the elite skills he had at his disposal and worked his whole career to grow.
I don't believe this is all on Trent TBH. If Klopp had wanted him to continue overlapping then that's what he would have done and none of the inverting into MF nonsense. Ditto Slot. if he wanted that (which isn't in Slot's plan-book / style if we're being honest) then he would do.
I don't believe "it isn't in Slot's playbook" one bit because Robbo does it (albeit is quite ineffectively for other age & fatigue related reasons) quite a lot.
And Bradley does it when he plays. I think Trent has lost interest in being a 'conventional' full back.
Once he's settled at Madrid it'll be interesting to see how long - if at all - Ancelotti puts up with Trent picking and choosing what he can or cannot be @rsed to do on the pitch.
You'd think that Ancelotti would've been involved in the recruitment (if it happens) and that due diligence has been done with a plan to fit him in.
Of course I may be completely naive here and that he's been targeted because he's good and they'll 'fix him' when he gets there?
I'm sure you're right that Ancelotti will have been involved. What I'm less sure about is Trent's willingness to knuckle under and do what's required of him if it doesn't suit his own preferences. Time will tell.
True. But let's put it another way then ... if Klopp or Slot told you to play like that then you would. And he isn't.
RM may have looked at how he used to play and thought - that suits us, and we may see him revert to that style when he goes there.
Trent will give MOTM performance as long as someone covers his ass when he F's up. You could argue F's up the balance of the team because he needs so much cover.
If he thought the fans would take it any other way, he is deluded. The Madrid fans will turn on 6 pence if he shows any drop-off. Trent will be Dele Alli 2.0 and forgotten about in 5 years
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TAA will naturally try harder (at least at first) at Real because it's a new challenge and he'll feel the need to prove himself.
If he's lost that desire here (and it looks like he has) then it's best for all parties that he goes.
As said already, the only real criticism is that we failed to get a fee.
But then the club have let quite a few players go on frees in recent years that we arguably should have sold and gotten a fee for so.. perhaps a case of a continuing pattern as well.
If he's lost that desire here (and it looks like he has) then it's best for all parties that he goes.
As said already, the only real criticism is that we failed to get a fee.
But then the club have let quite a few players go on frees in recent years that we arguably should have sold and gotten a fee for so.. perhaps a case of a continuing pattern as well.
He can definitely play better than he is now just based on focus, but there are also things he actually has to improve in his game, and he has preferred to avoid them as his approach. That and get jacked and slower for a season for some reason.
Isn’t that because he never was a conventional full back?
Isn’t the person to “blame” for Trent’s change in playing style (and he’ll, he’s the one most people love to have a crack at anyway), Mr Intensity himself, Pep Lijnders?
Wasn’t he the architect of Trent inverting?
Even then, that was born out of teams “figuring out” how to hurt Klopp’s setup up via the gaping big holes that were appearing through the middle.
I’d argue utilising Trent differently was also about trying to get more fast direct balls into Darwin as he was totally different through the middle than Firmino.
So Trent’s only doing what he was told to do by the coaches otherwise he wouldn’t be on the pitch and part of that, over the years, was accepting his defensive weaknesses while embracing his attacking excellence.
Also, isn’t Slot known for liking his full back set up to be asymmetrical?
Only tent is to blame for him jogging round like a not arsed cunt half the time.
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