Can someone please explain to me what this fucking flid was up to today?
He looked almost disabled
How can this div be our back-up striker?
How?
He looked almost disabled
How can this div be our back-up striker?
How?
David Eggnog
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I don't share your hatred for this partcular player Brendan.
I am a fan of the kid, but that was the worst centre forward performance in living memory for Liverpool. He was just lost, like a little child.
I don't blame the player as much as I do the manager. Leaving him on for 80+ minutes when anyone could see after about 10-15 minutes that he was completely out of his depth. It is not fair to ask a young guy learning the game to lead the
line against a physical team like Stoke. Rubbish management whatever way you want to look at it.
I am a fan of the kid, but that was the worst centre forward performance in living memory for Liverpool. He was just lost, like a little child.
I don't blame the player as much as I do the manager. Leaving him on for 80+ minutes when anyone could see after about 10-15 minutes that he was completely out of his depth. It is not fair to ask a young guy learning the game to lead the
line against a physical team like Stoke. Rubbish management whatever way you want to look at it.
Perhaps he could be one of those 'good, shit strikers' who can score now and then, but are almost comically inept at times
Certainly I haven't seen anything quite as abysmal as what I witnessed today for quite some time
Well, since the Villa game
Certainly I haven't seen anything quite as abysmal as what I witnessed today for quite some time
Well, since the Villa game
Well I wouldn't word it like that, but I think he could develop into a good enough squad member. His attitude is usually spot on and he has chipped in with 6 goals this season, not too shabby overall. He's no superstar in the making, I think we can all see that. But I think there is potential there.
Christ, he was so fucking bad today it was untrue.
Christ, he was so fucking bad today it was untrue.
It just depresses me watching him in a Liverpool kit
But he's not alone there
But he's not alone there
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I quite like him, but he shouldn't be anywhere near the first team after that performance. Simply too much is being asked of him.
Surely recalling Nemeth or moving Pacheco or Dalle Valle up the order has to be considered.
Surely recalling Nemeth or moving Pacheco or Dalle Valle up the order has to be considered.
Nobody played very well. Again. Lucarse wasn't as shit as usual, but even his best is mediocre, so we had Masher trying to create. Which he can't.
There's little you can take from today's game; two ordinary teams cancelling eachother out for long periods
There's little you can take from today's game; two ordinary teams cancelling eachother out for long periods
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He was wank today but he's shown he's got some things in his locker from previous displays this season.
If we are talking about today, then Kuyt was woeful. He's about as much a threat as a frickin Care Bear
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I once saw Care bear + strap-on + girl porn.
That Bear was quite threatening.
He was wank today but he's shown he's got some things in his locker from previous displays this season.
If we are talking about today, then Kuyt was woeful. He's about as much a threat as a frickin Care Bear
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I once saw Care bear + strap-on + girl porn.
That Bear was quite threatening.
I've said before, his movement and touch are fucking shit but he gets away with it by scoring. Now he's not scoring, what does he offer?
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Zilch.
He makes me miss Crouch
Thought Lucas did well today. He made a nice few forward runs and should have won a penalty. I used to wince as he contested 50/50 tackles but he is winning his share now and has added a bit of steel to his game which is encouraging. Rafa has no intention of dropping him so best we can do is get used to him and look to the positives.
Even Brendan is starting to notice he is 'less shit' than usual. Ha.
Even Brendan is starting to notice he is 'less shit' than usual. Ha.
Less shit than usual *today* - still shit, though.
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In terms of talent, the very best we've seen from him is the very least we should expect from a Liverpool player.
That goes for Insua, Eggnog, Lucarse and many others
*cries*
*cries*
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Thought Lucas did well today. He made a nice few forward runs and should have won a penalty. I used to wince as he contested 50/50 tackles but he is winning his share now and has added a bit of steel to his game which is encouraging. Rafa has no intention of dropping him so best we can do is get used to him and look to the positives.
Even Brendan is starting to notice he is 'less shit' than usual. Ha.
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Thought he was useful today in the tackle that nearly took the leg off Etherington.
Thought Lucas did well today. He made a nice few forward runs and should have won a penalty. I used to wince as he contested 50/50 tackles but he is winning his share now and has added a bit of steel to his game which is encouraging. Rafa has no intention of dropping him so best we can do is get used to him and look to the positives.
Even Brendan is starting to notice he is 'less shit' than usual. Ha.
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Thought he was useful today in the tackle that nearly took the leg off Etherington.
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His 50/50 tackling is way better. I even fancy him to win the majority of the one's he enters into. He still has to cut out giving away silly free kicks. i.e. trips, pull backs etc.
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He does that all the time, and given we're shit at defending free-kicks, you'd think he'd learn.
As for the 50/50's - true, he has improved. But then so have Liverpool fans at clutching at straws.
His 50/50 tackling is way better. I even fancy him to win the majority of the one's he enters into. He still has to cut out giving away silly free kicks. i.e. trips, pull backs etc.
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He does that all the time, and given we're shit at defending free-kicks, you'd think he'd learn.
As for the 50/50's - true, he has improved. But then so have Liverpool fans at clutching at straws.
The usual young suspects like Lucas, Insua and Ngog, are singled out as evidence that this Liverpool side isn't up to it. But what about the senior players? What about the likes of, say, Gerrard, Agger and Kuyt?
Internationals with 165 caps between them, who, in the two games against Reading were shadows of their former selves? Last summer, all three were awarded bumper pay rises, which, along with Torres's, took a huge chunk out of the manager's transfer budget.
What have they done since to merit such lavish bounty? Why does their defeatist body language suggest they believe they deserve better? It seems the more you pay the modern player the more he believes he's special and should be surrounded by players more worthy of his talent.
Those three aren't alone. Other internationals are regularly going missing in action. In short, too many senior players have decided to hide. Because they can. Because they know the owners, manager and young scapegoats like Lucas, will take the blame. And all they will get is pity.
But they are equally as culpable for the lack of leadership and responsibility that is destroying their club. Because no matter how badly the men in suits are performing, there is no excuse for players of their experience and calibre to lie down so gutlessly for three-and-a-half hours against a side like Reading.
Before this season gets worse maybe they should ask themselves if Hicks jnr is the only spoilt rich kid telling a fan his misery is an irrelevance to their lives.
Brian Reade
Internationals with 165 caps between them, who, in the two games against Reading were shadows of their former selves? Last summer, all three were awarded bumper pay rises, which, along with Torres's, took a huge chunk out of the manager's transfer budget.
What have they done since to merit such lavish bounty? Why does their defeatist body language suggest they believe they deserve better? It seems the more you pay the modern player the more he believes he's special and should be surrounded by players more worthy of his talent.
Those three aren't alone. Other internationals are regularly going missing in action. In short, too many senior players have decided to hide. Because they can. Because they know the owners, manager and young scapegoats like Lucas, will take the blame. And all they will get is pity.
But they are equally as culpable for the lack of leadership and responsibility that is destroying their club. Because no matter how badly the men in suits are performing, there is no excuse for players of their experience and calibre to lie down so gutlessly for three-and-a-half hours against a side like Reading.
Before this season gets worse maybe they should ask themselves if Hicks jnr is the only spoilt rich kid telling a fan his misery is an irrelevance to their lives.
Brian Reade
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His 50/50 tackling is way better. I even fancy him to win the majority of the one's he enters into. He still has to cut out giving away silly free kicks. i.e. trips, pull backs etc.
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He does that all the time, and given we're shit at defending free-kicks, you'd think he'd learn.
As for the 50/50's - true, he has improved. But then so have Liverpool fans at clutching at straws.
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Haha, I did say above I was trying to find some positives.
[quote author=ILD link=topic=38485.msg1035995#msg1035995 date=1263668542]
His 50/50 tackling is way better. I even fancy him to win the majority of the one's he enters into. He still has to cut out giving away silly free kicks. i.e. trips, pull backs etc.
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He does that all the time, and given we're shit at defending free-kicks, you'd think he'd learn.
As for the 50/50's - true, he has improved. But then so have Liverpool fans at clutching at straws.
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Haha, I did say above I was trying to find some positives.
Ha, I was just about to say that was a great post rebel. He is absolutely spot on there anyways.
Ngog was fucking pitiful but the fact that he was left on till the end was just real infuriating stuff by our manager.
On the other hand, thought Lucas was our best player.
Ngog was fucking pitiful but the fact that he was left on till the end was just real infuriating stuff by our manager.
On the other hand, thought Lucas was our best player.
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Ha, I was just about to say that was a great post rebel. He is absolutely spot on there anyways.
Ngog was fucking pitiful but the fact that he was left on till the end was just real infuriating stuff by our manager.
On the other hand, thought Lucas was our best player.
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He looked a different player, shooting and getting in the box.
Ha, I was just about to say that was a great post rebel. He is absolutely spot on there anyways.
Ngog was fucking pitiful but the fact that he was left on till the end was just real infuriating stuff by our manager.
On the other hand, thought Lucas was our best player.
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He looked a different player, shooting and getting in the box.
Better than alonso, hey Headers?
With Yossi, Gerrard, and Torres out I think we have to give Danny a go. At the very least he has enthusiasm and actually WANTS the ball. Seriously, could it get much worse?
Sadly though, the more the pressure mounts, the more Rafa retreats into his shell. I mean seriously - three centre backs and three fullbacks occupying the field at the same time? I doubt we're likely to see anything even bordering on adventurous from Rafa at the moment. Or for the foreseeable future.
Sadly though, the more the pressure mounts, the more Rafa retreats into his shell. I mean seriously - three centre backs and three fullbacks occupying the field at the same time? I doubt we're likely to see anything even bordering on adventurous from Rafa at the moment. Or for the foreseeable future.
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