David Eggnog
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What's your opinion on Eggnog's display today, cochyn?
Please try and refrain from being a deadly dull twat when responding
Please try and refrain from being a deadly dull twat when responding
From what I saw, which wasn't all thanks to me falling asleep which was more than a blessing as I get so angry watching this team; N'gog in a generally shit team on a day where he was bound to struggle (seeing how thats one of the best Defenses the prem has to offer) being kicked around with no support and no partner as Kuyt doesn't have the pace to help a partner out in most situations he still showed some touches and moments of sheer quality. And he produced a driven cross that would have been a sitter if anyone had made the vital run which is near post (second is far post trailing the front runner slightly obv). I said it early in the match thread this was a day for N'gog to struggle no support no quality, no pace around him, and most importantly he was our best attacking option on the field which meant most of the attention. If you can't see the promise this lad has and the possibility of greatness which would be enhanced if he is told to get in the gym and learn how to use that big frame then you just dont understand football. Because anyone who can turn a man as easily as he can (when he gets it right) and can finish as calmly as him and has the talent to develop an all around game has enough potential to warrant being 3rd or 4th striker. And he should be given opportunities to shine. Today was a day for an experienced strong CF with N'gog possibly playing of him. Of course a resource we don't have.
[quote author=Assulin link=topic=38485.msg1036149#msg1036149 date=1263678400]Because anyone who can turn a man as easily as he can (when he gets it right) [/quote]
So can I when I "get it right" though.
So can I when I "get it right" though.
n'gog finishes under the crossbar too
Hahahaha!
Yes, a truly wonderful and unique skill
Yes, a truly wonderful and unique skill
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=38485.msg1036151#msg1036151 date=1263678523]
[quote author=Assulin link=topic=38485.msg1036149#msg1036149 date=1263678400]Because anyone who can turn a man as easily as he can (when he gets it right) [/quote]
So can I when I "get it right" though.
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He does it a lot for the french team and he used to do it for us back when we played football. He doesnt get the service he's best suited too (quite like Torres who is world class enough to manage). N'gog is a balls to feet striker he's not gonna be able to turn a defender when the balls are flying at or above his head.
I'll ignore the the dumb and over compensating ones
[quote author=Assulin link=topic=38485.msg1036149#msg1036149 date=1263678400]Because anyone who can turn a man as easily as he can (when he gets it right) [/quote]
So can I when I "get it right" though.
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He does it a lot for the french team and he used to do it for us back when we played football. He doesnt get the service he's best suited too (quite like Torres who is world class enough to manage). N'gog is a balls to feet striker he's not gonna be able to turn a defender when the balls are flying at or above his head.
I'll ignore the the dumb and over compensating ones
[quote author=Assulin link=topic=38485.msg1036149#msg1036149 date=1263678400]
From what I saw, which wasn't all thanks to me falling asleep which was more than a blessing as I get so angry watching this team; N'gog in a generally shit team on a day where he was bound to struggle (seeing how thats one of the best Defenses the prem has to offer) being kicked around with no support and no partner as Kuyt doesn't have the pace to help a partner out in most situations he still showed some touches and moments of sheer quality. And he produced a driven cross that would have been a sitter if anyone had made the vital run which is near post (second is far post trailing the front runner slightly obv). I said it early in the match thread this was a day for N'gog to struggle no support no quality, no pace around him, and most importantly he was our best attacking option on the field which meant most of the attention. If you can't see the promise this lad has and the possibility of greatness which would be enhanced if he is told to get in the gym and learn how to use that big frame then you just dont understand football. Because anyone who can turn a man as easily as he can (when he gets it right) and can finish as calmly as him and has the talent to develop an all around game has enough potential to warrant being 3rd or 4th striker. And he should be given opportunities to shine. Today was a day for an experienced strong CF with N'gog possibly playing of him. Of course a resource we don't have.
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I think you were asleep and dreaming for all the game
From what I saw, which wasn't all thanks to me falling asleep which was more than a blessing as I get so angry watching this team; N'gog in a generally shit team on a day where he was bound to struggle (seeing how thats one of the best Defenses the prem has to offer) being kicked around with no support and no partner as Kuyt doesn't have the pace to help a partner out in most situations he still showed some touches and moments of sheer quality. And he produced a driven cross that would have been a sitter if anyone had made the vital run which is near post (second is far post trailing the front runner slightly obv). I said it early in the match thread this was a day for N'gog to struggle no support no quality, no pace around him, and most importantly he was our best attacking option on the field which meant most of the attention. If you can't see the promise this lad has and the possibility of greatness which would be enhanced if he is told to get in the gym and learn how to use that big frame then you just dont understand football. Because anyone who can turn a man as easily as he can (when he gets it right) and can finish as calmly as him and has the talent to develop an all around game has enough potential to warrant being 3rd or 4th striker. And he should be given opportunities to shine. Today was a day for an experienced strong CF with N'gog possibly playing of him. Of course a resource we don't have.
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I think you were asleep and dreaming for all the game
No i wasn't. He created our best penetrating run and cross of the first half. He played the one two for Lucas blatant pen. And when he did miscontrol it out of bounds (the blatant one stuck in everyones mind) he has started the move with a nice bit of hold up play *something new to his game. He also was generally our point of attack in the first half and was instrumental in almost every bit football we played in there half.
Oh my God, Ass, are you actually saying Eggnog played well?
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Oh my God, Ass, are you actually saying Eggnog played well?
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No, like I said it was always going to be a hard game for him and it wasn't even close to fair to him with the team that was surrounding him, his partner the "creative" players on the field and our general style of play. But he shouldn't come away with blame and especially the type you and others put on him. Imo opinion he continued to show his great assets and the parts of his game he needs to improve. He showed his usual drive in the first half and created most of our opportunities and was really our only chance of sheer quality. Sad as that really shouldn't be disputed.
He's a good kid, a phenomenal buy at 1.5 m, has tons of potential, the right body, the right instinct, and the right confidence level. IF that isn't enough to warrant respect and time to mature into a cracking skwad player capable of 10 goals a season I don't know what is the point of following a football team. Might as well just wait for a dominant team to come around and support them.
Oh my God, Ass, are you actually saying Eggnog played well?
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No, like I said it was always going to be a hard game for him and it wasn't even close to fair to him with the team that was surrounding him, his partner the "creative" players on the field and our general style of play. But he shouldn't come away with blame and especially the type you and others put on him. Imo opinion he continued to show his great assets and the parts of his game he needs to improve. He showed his usual drive in the first half and created most of our opportunities and was really our only chance of sheer quality. Sad as that really shouldn't be disputed.
He's a good kid, a phenomenal buy at 1.5 m, has tons of potential, the right body, the right instinct, and the right confidence level. IF that isn't enough to warrant respect and time to mature into a cracking skwad player capable of 10 goals a season I don't know what is the point of following a football team. Might as well just wait for a dominant team to come around and support them.
Ha ha @ skwad player.
You meant that, right?
You meant that, right?
N'Gog had a bad game ... In fact, I can't think of many games where our strikers had good games and their name wasn't 'Torres'. I know people expect Ngog to play great every game - and that's really great - but this isn't a Fowler or Owen (Awaits Brendan's Rush comment). He will play some good games (and he has) and score goals (and he has) and he'll play like absolute shit (like he has). I think he's been a good investment and perhaps being asked too much of now. He's not ready to shoulder the load of goal scoring (that should be Kuyt's job while TOrres is gone, and sadly, we know what that means). I think he'll be a very solid player one day. But in this 'microwave' generation, unless something is great straight away - we want rid. It's understandable, but I just really worry if Pacheco or Nemeth or whoever gets a game and are absolute shit, how quickly the boards will turn on them.
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No i wasn't. He created our best penetrating run and cross of the first half. He played the one two for Lucas blatant pen. And when he did miscontrol it out of bounds (the blatant one stuck in everyones mind) he has started the move with a nice bit of hold up play *something new to his game. He also was generally our point of attack in the first half and was instrumental in almost every bit football we played in there half.
[/quote] It was Degen who played the one two for the penalty incident.
No i wasn't. He created our best penetrating run and cross of the first half. He played the one two for Lucas blatant pen. And when he did miscontrol it out of bounds (the blatant one stuck in everyones mind) he has started the move with a nice bit of hold up play *something new to his game. He also was generally our point of attack in the first half and was instrumental in almost every bit football we played in there half.
[/quote] It was Degen who played the one two for the penalty incident.
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if true, it doesnt stop N'gog from being free of blame imo. He's being asked way way too much.
and skwad was on purpose
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what was asked of n'gog was to beat stoke, and reading, and portsmouth. it those things are way way too much than fuck david n'gog. fuck him. he can fuck off. whats the problem?
this is liverpool fc, not aww poor baby n'gog there there awww fc
if true, it doesnt stop N'gog from being free of blame imo. He's being asked way way too much.
and skwad was on purpose
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what was asked of n'gog was to beat stoke, and reading, and portsmouth. it those things are way way too much than fuck david n'gog. fuck him. he can fuck off. whats the problem?
this is liverpool fc, not aww poor baby n'gog there there awww fc
Dantes is off on one
im not off on one, im just asking for us to at least come 4th. and albeyred and now assulin are putting the career development of n'gog and pacheco and kelly ahead of coming 4th.
when the fuck did anyone give a shit about martin kelly? noone care's about him if he fails he can go toss burgers. who ever gave a shit about le tallec's career development? noone. fuck david n'gog. he's playing like a cunt. so treat him like one.
when the fuck did anyone give a shit about martin kelly? noone care's about him if he fails he can go toss burgers. who ever gave a shit about le tallec's career development? noone. fuck david n'gog. he's playing like a cunt. so treat him like one.
And if you are myopic enough to think N'gog was the reason for those defeats so be it. But I blame the play surrounding, the style and lack of service, and the general shitness of our team. But seeing as he did help create the goal against Reading and he generally results in actuall football style pass and move I'm willing to lay the blame elsewhere (at Rafa's feet mainly cause thats where it belongs). David N'gog a raw but very talented youngster and should not be asked to lead the line by himself against most teams. Stoke being the number one example and unfortunately Dirk did a wonderful job as a ineffectual partner today... Why you'd ever wanna pass it of his stone feet, I'd never know.
Were you a fan of LeTallec, dantes
david n'gog knew full well when he signed that our formation is 4231. he knew kuyt was the right winger. yet he came and accepted a wage from us.
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Were you a fan of LeTallec, dantes
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n'gog isn't fit to clean the toilet after le tallec's used it to convey his opinion of the aforementioned n'gog. it makes me sick to my stomach that people come out in defence of him
Were you a fan of LeTallec, dantes
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n'gog isn't fit to clean the toilet after le tallec's used it to convey his opinion of the aforementioned n'gog. it makes me sick to my stomach that people come out in defence of him
wow, thats just tells me to stop worrying about it cause you are that myopic.
And I was about to say well then you don't have a problem with me because I don't think David N'gog should be playing for us in a critical away game to Stoke (but we don't have better truthfully) Our number one priority this winter was a Striker, number 2 was cb, number 3 was lb.
like N'gog is gonna turn down a transfer to LFC.
And I was about to say well then you don't have a problem with me because I don't think David N'gog should be playing for us in a critical away game to Stoke (but we don't have better truthfully) Our number one priority this winter was a Striker, number 2 was cb, number 3 was lb.
like N'gog is gonna turn down a transfer to LFC.
Is that a yes?
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Ah, the match that fooled us all...
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Were you a fan of LeTallec, dantes
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I sure as hell was Mr. Judge
Were you a fan of LeTallec, dantes
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I sure as hell was Mr. Judge
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