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Yep, coming up with some "plan B" when our plan A isn't good enough would be counter productive. We'd end up being average at playing football in two ways. We need more options for playing the way we are, some talented creative players to bring on.

At present our squad does not have enough talent in it, it is getting better though. We now have Gerrard, Suarez, Coutinho and Sturridge that I'd consider are good enough, another two players of the same standard and we won't care about a plan B.
 
Liverpool still plan to sell striker Andy Carroll for £17m

Andy Carroll’s loan spell at West Ham has done nothing to persuade Liverpool he will revive his career at Anfield next season, but the Merseyside club will not lower their £17 million asking price this summer.
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Uncertain future: Andy Carrroll has found form again at West Ham but Liverpool still do not want him Photo: ACTION IMAGES


By Chris Bascombe
11:00PM BST 03 Apr 2013


Although there is a prospect Carroll may have to return to his parent club in time for the next pre-season, that would only be in the event of further haggling over his fee, with Newcastle United sure to rival West Ham and revive their interest in re-signing their former player.
It is still Liverpool’s intention to sell Carroll at the earliest opportunity, but as they proved last summer, not on the cheap.

Liverpool face West Ham United this weekend, although Carroll will be ineligible for the Anfield fixture under Premier League rules.
Brendan Rodgers, the Liverpool manager, plans to meet Carroll at the end of the campaign to discuss his future, but it will be made clear his position has not changed in the last 12 months, particularly as the Merseysiders have since added to their attacking options.
At best, Carroll would only be a squad player for Liverpool with Rodgers having already shaped his team in a way which he does not feel would suit the 24-year-old’s strengths.
There is no desire on the club’s part to have a highly paid player stuck on the bench, nor on Carroll’s to see his career stall when he wants to be a regular starter and has ambitions to force his way back into the England fold in time for the World Cup.
As it stands, West Ham are in the prime position to make Carroll a permanent signing. As part of their year-long loan offer, they secured the option to conclude a longer-term deal for £17 million if they avoided relegation.

Sam Allardyce’s side are relatively safe in mid-table, but there have been no discussions yet between the parties about triggering Carroll’s clause as it remains a substantial investment for the London club.
Carroll will also be weighing up his options, influenced by whether Allardyce - who has championed the former England striker and made it clear he wants to keep him - signs a new contract.

The issue will be further complicated by Newcastle’s lingering hopes of taking Carroll back to the North-East - providing they stay up.
They baulked at Liverpool’s asking price a year ago, refusing to pay more than £12 million for a player they sold for £35 million in January, 2011.

Liverpool, however, will reopen negotiations with Newcastle manager Alan Pardew if West Ham do not take up the option of buying Carroll because they are interested in discussing a potential player swap-deal.

Rodgers is an admirer of French midfielder Hatem Ben Arfa, whose form and fitness he has been monitoring throughout the season because he believes he could fit seamlessly into the Liverpool line-up.
Carroll has scored five goals in his 17 appearances for West Ham.

Liverpool have recruited Daniel Sturridge since allowing Carroll to go alone. Sturridge is already under pressure to add consistency to his natural talent having been left out of the side that defeated Aston Villa last weekend.

If Carroll returned to Anfield now, he would not even be guaranteed a place on the bench on a week-to-week basis.
Rodgers still needs to raise as many funds as possible by offloading those surplus to requirements while also keeping control of his squad’s wage bill so that underused players are not absorbing valuable resources. It all adds up to Carroll’s return being an inconvenience the club would have to reluctantly deal with as and when it happened, rather than a chance for a fresh start.
 
I'm not Ben Arthur's biggest fan but I'd trade Andy for him.
Oh, plus £10 Million of course.
 
Don't want the likes of Nasri or Ben Arfa anywhere near LFC.

Talented players, but attitude is piss poor.
 
"Rodgers is an admirer of French midfielder Hatem Ben Arfa, whose form and fitness he has been monitoring throughout the season" 😕

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...erpool-transfers-andy-carroll-offered-1807317


Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers is ready to offer Andy Carroll a way back in at Anfield - as a squad member.

The England striker, currently on a season-long loan at West Ham, must accept he will be used as an impact player from the bench if he wants to re-ignite his career at the Anfield club he joined for £35million in January 2011.

The Mirror understands that talks will take place between manager and player in the coming weeks with a view to thrashing out a compromise if the Hammers confirm they intend to send Carroll back to Merseyside without making an offer for his permanent signature.

The big Geordie, who scored twice at the weekend as West Ham beat West Brom but has only five goals in 21 appearances this season, will be told there can be no sulking or disrupting the squad - only a will to work hard and earn a starting place.

If Carroll agrees to such conditions, he will be welcomed back for pre-season training - and special work designed to increase his mobility and adapt him to the demands of Rodgers' high-energy passing game.

The Reds manager has always insisted that Carroll's traditional-centre-forward style does not suit the system he has introduced, suggesting that he will be sold at the end of his year in east London.

But the 24-year-old has been so dogged by injuries, and the resulting loss of form, during the current campaign that it no longer seems likely interested clubs would be prepared to go anywhere near the original asking price of £18m.

It is a situation that Rodgers has been forced to address in recent weeks, and he is ready to offer Carroll an unlikely Anfield lifeline.
 
Think there's an article in the Telegraph today about him being sold at the end of the season but I can't access it online as I've reached my 20 alloted views. Can anyone help a brother out?
 
Liverpool still plan to sell striker Andy Carroll for £17m

Andy Carroll’s loan spell at West Ham has done nothing to persuade Liverpool he will revive his career at Anfield next season, but the Merseyside club will not lower their £17 million asking price this summer.




Although there is a prospect Carroll may have to return to his parent club in time for the next pre-season, that would only be in the event of further haggling over his fee, with Newcastle United sure to rival West Ham and revive their interest in re-signing their former player. It is still Liverpool’s intention to sell Carroll at the earliest opportunity, but as they proved last summer, not on the cheap.
Liverpool face West Ham United this weekend, although Carroll will be ineligible for the Anfield fixture under Premier League rules. Brendan Rodgers, the Liverpool manager, plans to meet Carroll at the end of the campaign to discuss his future, but it will be made clear his position has not changed in the last 12 months, particularly as the Merseysiders have since added to their attacking options.
At best, Carroll would only be a squad player for Liverpool with Rodgers having already shaped his team in a way which he does not feel would suit the 24-year-old’s strengths. There is no desire on the club’s part to have a highly paid player stuck on the bench, nor on Carroll’s to see his career stall when he wants to be a regular starter and has ambitions to force his way back into the England fold in time for the World Cup.
As it stands, West Ham are in the prime position to make Carroll a permanent signing. As part of their year-long loan offer, they secured the option to conclude a longer-term deal for £17 million if they avoided relegation. Sam Allardyce’s side are relatively safe in mid-table, but there have been no discussions yet between the parties about triggering Carroll’s clause as it remains a substantial investment for the London club.
Carroll will also be weighing up his options, influenced by whether Allardyce - who has championed the former England striker and made it clear he wants to keep him - signs a new contract. The issue will be further complicated by Newcastle’s lingering hopes of taking Carroll back to the North-East - providing they stay up. They baulked at Liverpool’s asking price a year ago, refusing to pay more than £12 million for a player they sold for £35 million in January, 2011.
Liverpool, however, will reopen negotiations with Newcastle manager Alan Pardew if West Ham do not take up the option of buying Carroll because they are interested in discussing a potential player swap-deal. Rodgers is an admirer of French midfielder Hatem Ben Arfa, whose form and fitness he has been monitoring throughout the season because he believes he could fit seamlessly into the Liverpool line-up. Carroll has scored five goals in his 17 appearances for West Ham.
Liverpool have recruited Daniel Sturridge since allowing Carroll to go alone. Sturridge is already under pressure to add consistency to his natural talent having been left out of the side that defeated Aston Villa last weekend. If Carroll returned to Anfield now, he would not even be guaranteed a place on the bench on a week-to-week basis.
Rodgers still needs to raise as many funds as possible by offloading those surplus to requirements while also keeping control of his squad’s wage bill so that underused players are not absorbing valuable resources. It all adds up to Carroll’s return being an inconvenience the club would have to reluctantly deal with as and when it happened, rather than a chance for a fresh start.
 
About 6 months before we bought AC I recommended a cheeky £12m bid for him as I thought he'd be a decent addition to our squad. I still think he's a good option for any EPL team but his true value is STILL about £12m.
 
About 6 months before we bought AC I recommended a cheeky £12m bid for him as I thought he'd be a decent addition to our squad. I still think he's a good option for any EPL team but his true value is STILL about £12m.
17M is a ploy. Nobody will pay that but it's a negotiating point.
 
Don't want the likes of Nasri or Ben Arfa anywhere near LFC.

Talented players, but attitude is piss poor.

Is that true/still true of Ben Arfa? Earlier in the season he was getting rave reviews for his attitude as well as his performances.
 
Our fitness team could probably sort out Ben Arfas injury problems. Wheter or not I want him signed is another story.
 
Our fitness team could probably sort out Ben Arfas injury problems. Wheter or not I want him signed is another story.

You're talking about the fitness team which placed Joe Allen's life at the mercy as a thumb jab?
 
When asked about Carroll's future, Rodgers told Fox Sports: "It's nothing to discuss now. It's something we'll speak about at the end of the season."
England international Carroll, 24, has scored five goals in 17 appearances for the Hammers, including a double in last weekend's win over West Brom.
And Rodgers has kept a close eye on his progress while away from Anfield.
Rodgers said: "We've monitored it very closely. We've had representatives from Liverpool at most of the games.
"It's obviously been a difficult season for Andy because his initial idea was he wanted to go out and play every week, but unfortunately for him he's picked up some injuries since he's been away.
"But he scored two very good goals at the weekend and he'll be looking to finish the season on a high and achieve the objectives he wanted to before he went out."
 
Although every Liverpool fan, player and staff member is more than likely in agreement that Roy Hodgons type of football is not welcome here, it's a bit surreal that an England senior squad member who is already employed by this club is not welcome here. We are better than 2 years ago, but are we that much better?
 
Although every Liverpool fan, player and staff member is more than likely in agreement that Roy Hodgons type of football is not welcome here, it's a bit surreal that an England senior squad member who is already employed by this club is not welcome here. We are better than 2 years ago, but are we that much better?

Hee hee .
 
Maybe they see Ben arfa as the cheap alternative to eriksen. Problem is he's lazy when it comes to defensive work. No doubting the talent, but he's not willing to work for the team. Plus he's another lightweight midfielder. We're overstocked on those. So no thanks.
 
Me neither, we've got better players currently and he's just another non-defending lightweight for us to carry.
 

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BR on Carroll: "The Club is not one at this moment that can have that money sat on the bench, in terms of what he cost and his wages."LFCTS@LFCTS
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BR on Carroll: "He came here for an astronomical fee, which was no fault of his own, so we will see what happens in the summer."
BR on Carroll: "If the player does leave, it won’t be for nothing."
 
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