your starting XI

[Justicefloyd]

[quote author=ILD link=topic=46217.msg1370767#msg1370767 date=1311758365]
[quote author=Justicefloyd link=topic=46217.msg1370762#msg1370762 date=1311758041]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=46217.msg1370734#msg1370734 date=1311757126]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=46217.msg1370731#msg1370731 date=1311756927]
19times in a reincarnation, we've had another poster with a similar shit name who used to post with same the sole purpose of being a WUM, typical Manc bellend.

*Adds to list alongside Floyd*
[/quote]Yes ALONGSIDE Mark *winks* ...................Alongside........in his head.................

LOL.
[/quote]

Looks like the kuyt fan club is all here together today, I told ltw that I'll leave it but I think the discussion is still live. Hey Mark please tell when Kuyt goes through his annual 25 games of being rubbish how many members of the dirk fan club will be left.
[/quote]

You say fan club as if we're some sort of deluded minority. Of course we like Dirk, he's a great lad (from interviews and his presence on the pitch) and he produces on the field time and time again. Now if he has a slump in form we're all for him taking time out on the bench. Henderson will provide healthy competition and both will get plenty of minutes on the field.

I think the above stance is balanced and normal. You're camped in an extreme where you never want to see Dirk play for us again. Bit OTT dude.
[/quote]

The problem is, is that it's not if he has a slump in form it's guaranteed, every year it happens and for a good part of the season.

And Her Onc you just want me to stop but it's ok for everyone else to continue, Im ok to discuss the topic but all that is coming out of the dirk kuyt camp ridicule

 

[mark1975]

Yeah but 25 games? Ok.

He's scored some great goals and scored in important matches time and time again. He might occasionally need a stint on the sidelines but his importance shouldn't go unrecognised (and it's only usually by an idiot minority that it does).

You've exaggerated your point throughout this thread and acted like a proper prick.

 

[Fabio]

Kuyt is a good player. Not great as some would say, but good. My view continually changes but i think I've now settled on:

He is good enough to start for us, but only as a striker, not rm. Occasionally rw.

 

[Rosco]

Now, given our other options we can justify dropping him when he goes off form. No big deal

 

[Oncy]

[quote author=Justicefloyd link=topic=46217.msg1370774#msg1370774 date=1311758998]
[quote author=ILD link=topic=46217.msg1370767#msg1370767 date=1311758365]
[quote author=Justicefloyd link=topic=46217.msg1370762#msg1370762 date=1311758041]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=46217.msg1370734#msg1370734 date=1311757126]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=46217.msg1370731#msg1370731 date=1311756927]
19times in a reincarnation, we've had another poster with a similar shit name who used to post with same the sole purpose of being a WUM, typical Manc bellend.

*Adds to list alongside Floyd*
[/quote]Yes ALONGSIDE Mark *winks* ...................Alongside........in his head.................

LOL.
[/quote]

Looks like the kuyt fan club is all here together today, I told ltw that I'll leave it but I think the discussion is still live. Hey Mark please tell when Kuyt goes through his annual 25 games of being rubbish how many members of the dirk fan club will be left.
[/quote]

You say fan club as if we're some sort of deluded minority. Of course we like Dirk, he's a great lad (from interviews and his presence on the pitch) and he produces on the field time and time again. Now if he has a slump in form we're all for him taking time out on the bench. Henderson will provide healthy competition and both will get plenty of minutes on the field.

I think the above stance is balanced and normal. You're camped in an extreme where you never want to see Dirk play for us again. Bit OTT dude.
[/quote]

The problem is, is that it's not if he has a slump in form it's guaranteed, every year it happens and for a good part of the season.

And Her Onc you just want me to stop but it's ok for everyone else to continue, Im ok to discuss the topic but all that is coming out of the dirk kuyt camp ridicule
[/quote]No i want everyone to stop. Its boring. Youve made your point clear. Like i said youre entitled to it. As David says i dont get the 'HATE' but whatever floats your boat.

 

[Fabio]

Oh and Floyd, if you can discuss things like a grown up then of course you can discuss it. So far you haven't.

"losers" and being massively disrespectful will not win you arguments

 

[LeTallecWiz]

[quote author=Rosco link=topic=46217.msg1370781#msg1370781 date=1311759281]
Now, given our other options we can justify dropping him when he goes off form. No big deal
[/quote]

x2

oy floyd - join another thread will ya?

 

[spider-Neil]

[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=46217.msg1370777#msg1370777 date=1311759226]
Yeah but 25 games? Ok.

He's scored some great goals and scored in important matches time and time again. He might occasionally need a stint on the sidelines but his importance shouldn't go unrecognised (and it's only usually by an idiot minority that it does).

You've exaggerated your point throughout this thread and acted like a proper prick.
[/quote]

justice is exaggerating with regards to kuyt's slumps but they do seem they last a fucking eternity, an eternity when someone (ANYONE!) should be given a go and aren't and what winds me the fuck up is when people gloat when kuyt comes out the other side of the slump scoring for fun again but our league 'challenge' has disappeared up our own fucking arse, again. you have no IDEA how much that winds me up.

not disimilar to the people going on about maxi after his two hattricks, with the shining and the league campaign all but over but when it COUNTED he delivered the better part of fuck all.

I'm not mixing kuyt with maxi as I think he is far better than that and I deeply regret my 'competent' comment on kuyt a few months back, I think kuyt is excellent on occasion and better than average most of the time but when he is in a slump (and kuyt gets them pretty much every season) I see no reason why he should remain in the team, fucking none whatsoever. do we want to win the fucking league or not? do we want to earn as many points as possible or not? are we here to service kuyt or is kuyt here to service us?

 

[Wilko7]

[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=46217.msg1370694#msg1370694 date=1311754080]
[quote author=19times link=topic=46217.msg1370607#msg1370607 date=1311729076]

As a Manchester United fan I'm sure I'll get a warm welcome to the forum ;D


Just throwing my 2 cents worth into this debate, it would be great to see Liverpool FC signing a few more players of Dirk's quality, maybe even a whole starting 11


As Paul Scholes and Ryan Giggs have shown it's all too boring when a player keeps the ball away from the opposition. It's much more entertaining watching Dangerous Dirk chasing after players who he's given the ball to time and time again.
[/quote]Hey 19times, can you remember the name of the poster that Nikeser fabricated to agree with his opinion?
Its aaaaaaaages ago now and i cant remember his name?
Any ideas?
[/quote]

Wasn't it something like Question Mark?

 

[Oncy]

[quote author=Wilko link=topic=46217.msg1371017#msg1371017 date=1311777901]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=46217.msg1370694#msg1370694 date=1311754080]
[quote author=19times link=topic=46217.msg1370607#msg1370607 date=1311729076]

As a Manchester United fan I'm sure I'll get a warm welcome to the forum ;D


Just throwing my 2 cents worth into this debate, it would be great to see Liverpool FC signing a few more players of Dirk's quality, maybe even a whole starting 11


As Paul Scholes and Ryan Giggs have shown it's all too boring when a player keeps the ball away from the opposition. It's much more entertaining watching Dangerous Dirk chasing after players who he's given the ball to time and time again.
[/quote]Hey 19times, can you remember the name of the poster that Nikeser fabricated to agree with his opinion?
Its aaaaaaaages ago now and i cant remember his name?
Any ideas?
[/quote]

Wasn't it something like Question Mark?
[/quote]Nice memory banking Wilko, it was indeed.

 

[Wilko7]

[quote author=Justicefloyd link=topic=46217.msg1370596#msg1370596 date=1311722426]
hey Wilko, How about we all just have the same opinons on all things concerning liverpool and then we'll all get along. Before becoming a member there should be a list of things that can be discussed and which players footballing ability can be questioned. If you actually have a read of this thread you will see multiple times me pointing out kuyts lack of speed, lack of touch, passing ability and the fact that he cant take on a defender, not once have they been answered by actual discussions of his ability or these attributes. All we've seen is ridicule and great comments like yours. Also from now before i post i will confirm with you and the rest of the kuyt fan club if what im about to write is not gonna upest anyone or get me banned cause i really became a memebr just to get along with everyone and not to discuss football.
[/quote]

Differing opinions are great, Floydy. It is possible, however, to express them without calling lads losers and idiots and generally alienating the entire forum.

 

[ILD]

[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=46217.msg1371033#msg1371033 date=1311779418]
[quote author=Wilko link=topic=46217.msg1371017#msg1371017 date=1311777901]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=46217.msg1370694#msg1370694 date=1311754080]
[quote author=19times link=topic=46217.msg1370607#msg1370607 date=1311729076]

As a Manchester United fan I'm sure I'll get a warm welcome to the forum ;D


Just throwing my 2 cents worth into this debate, it would be great to see Liverpool FC signing a few more players of Dirk's quality, maybe even a whole starting 11


As Paul Scholes and Ryan Giggs have shown it's all too boring when a player keeps the ball away from the opposition. It's much more entertaining watching Dangerous Dirk chasing after players who he's given the ball to time and time again.
[/quote]Hey 19times, can you remember the name of the poster that Nikeser fabricated to agree with his opinion?
Its aaaaaaaages ago now and i cant remember his name?
Any ideas?
[/quote]

Wasn't it something like Question Mark?
[/quote]Nice memory banking Wilko, it was indeed.
[/quote]

Sure I gave it away with my over use of ? ? ? ? ? ???? in a previous post.

 

[Glock21]

Oh dear, l left for a couple of days and there you go another clown comes and make everyone 'happy'. Fucking hell.


Listen here JusticeFloyd kid, in this thread you have said Kuyt can't beat defenders, runs like your grandma, doesn't score enough goals, can't shoot and the worst ever Liverpool player you have seen in your life and not fit to play for us...and when someone pointed out what his goal scoring record and assist were you came back with your nonsensical garbage and kept on spouting the same old shit.


Tell me kid, tell me how on fucking earth if he can't shoot but he scored 15 goals in all competition last season? He scored using your fucking cock is it? and tell me how on fucking earth he fucking had 7 assists playing as a right midfielder in most games last season when according to you he can't even beat a single player.


And earlier in the thread you've suggested we go for N'Zogbia...have you seen him play? How many goals did he score last season and how many assists? 10 goals and 5 assists in all competition and you want us to sign him and replace Kuyt? ? ?? You're about as sharp as marble boy. We don't replace a good player with an inferior player. If you're above 14 you should know that. N'Zogbia is full of runs and guess what....no end product.


Like i said, until we sign someone who is capable of playing at right wing and excite the shit of you until then we have to stick to Kuyt. Or we play Gerrard at right wing and Kuyt as a striker.


Don't talk wet.

 

[Justicefloyd]

[quote author=Glock link=topic=46217.msg1371185#msg1371185 date=1311839366]
Oh dear, l left for a couple of days and there you go another clown comes and make everyone 'happy'. Fucking hell.


Listen here JusticeFloyd kid, in this thread you have said Kuyt can't beat defenders, runs like your grandma, doesn't score enough goals, can't shoot and the worst ever Liverpool player you have seen in your life and not fit to play for us...and when someone pointed out what his goal scoring record and assist were you came back with your nonsensical garbage and kept on spouting the same old shit.


Tell me kid, tell me how on fucking earth if he can't shoot but he scored 15 goals in all competition last season? He scored using your fucking cock is it? and tell me how on fucking earth he fucking had 7 assists playing as a right midfielder in most games last season when according to you he can't even beat a single player.


And earlier in the thread you've suggested we go for N'Zogbia...have you seen him play? How many goals did he score last season and how many assists? 10 goals and 5 assists in all competition and you want us to sign him and replace Kuyt? ? ?? You're about as sharp as marble boy. We don't replace a good player with an inferior player. If you're above 14 you should know that. N'Zogbia is full of runs and guess what....no end product.


Like i said, until we sign someone who is capable of playing at right wing and excite the shit of you until then we have to stick to Kuyt. Or we play Gerrard at right wing and Kuyt as a striker.


Don't talk wet.
[/quote]

Firstly to all the administors and other posters who continually tell me about using the word loser and idiot, please have a good look through the thread at the language that has been thrown around by the rest of the posters. Ive come back into the thread not to abuse anyone or even retalitate to this Glock guy, i did say loser and idiot a few times and have stopped, but the abusive language hasnt stopped. I dont care about the abuse but i am calling for a bit of consistancy from the mods.

I will reply to you Glock about Kuyt and we'll see if we can get a decent response from him or Kuyt's fan club. When i did mention nzogbia earlier
i suggested he would be a decent option and provide good competiton for the wingers at the club. I also believe he would be a good option to have on the bench. He unlike Kuyt has the attributes to be a winger in a 442 and you comparing Nzogbia contribution at wigan to Kuyts at liverpool isnt a fair comparion. Firstly Kuyt is surrounded by better quality players, plays in a team which creates more goal scoring opportunities and in a team which scored 19 more goals than wigan, Kuyt also takes alot of our penalties aswell(i dont know if Nzogbia takes wigans penalty). Putting all these things together Nzogbia stats arnt that bad when compared to Kuyt. I would like to see how many goals and assists Kuyt would get playing for a team like wigan that dont create as many goal scoring opportunites( as most his goals are from close range), and that fact he doesnt create goals for himself.
Also have a look at Kuyts stats the year before where he played 48( 2 sub) games with 10 goals and 3 assists. 3 assists in 48 games. Again i only mentioned Nzogbia as a decent option for the Squad and comparing their two stats actually i think strengthens that argument especially when looking at the teams they play for.

 

[Oncy]

Glocky if you reply to this post im going to beat your fucking head in.

 

[Whitey85]

Don't worry about it. Glock's a cunt and Kuyt's a good player.

 

[Glock21]

[quote author=Justicefloyd link=topic=46217.msg1371278#msg1371278 date=1311845776]
[quote author=Glock link=topic=46217.msg1371185#msg1371185 date=1311839366]
Oh dear, l left for a couple of days and there you go another clown comes and make everyone 'happy'. Fucking hell.


Listen here JusticeFloyd kid, in this thread you have said Kuyt can't beat defenders, runs like your grandma, doesn't score enough goals, can't shoot and the worst ever Liverpool player you have seen in your life and not fit to play for us...and when someone pointed out what his goal scoring record and assist were you came back with your nonsensical garbage and kept on spouting the same old shit.


Tell me kid, tell me how on fucking earth if he can't shoot but he scored 15 goals in all competition last season? He scored using your fucking cock is it? and tell me how on fucking earth he fucking had 7 assists playing as a right midfielder in most games last season when according to you he can't even beat a single player.


And earlier in the thread you've suggested we go for N'Zogbia...have you seen him play? How many goals did he score last season and how many assists? 10 goals and 5 assists in all competition and you want us to sign him and replace Kuyt? ? ?? You're about as sharp as marble boy. We don't replace a good player with an inferior player. If you're above 14 you should know that. N'Zogbia is full of runs and guess what....no end product.


Like i said, until we sign someone who is capable of playing at right wing and excite the shit of you until then we have to stick to Kuyt. Or we play Gerrard at right wing and Kuyt as a striker.


Don't talk wet.
[/quote]

Firstly to all the administors and other posters who continually tell me about using the word loser and idiot, please have a good look through the thread at the language that has been thrown around by the rest of the posters. Ive come back into the thread not to abuse anyone or even retalitate to this Glock guy, i did say loser and idiot a few times and have stopped, but the abusive language hasnt stopped. I dont care about the abuse but i am calling for a bit of consistancy from the mods.

I will reply to you Glock about Kuyt and we'll see if we can get a decent response from him or Kuyt's fan club. When i did mention nzogbia earlier
i suggested he would be a decent option and provide good competiton for the wingers at the club. I also believe he would be a good option to have on the bench. He unlike Kuyt has the attributes to be a winger in a 442 and you comparing Nzogbia contribution at wigan to Kuyts at liverpool isnt a fair comparion. Firstly Kuyt is surrounded by better quality players, plays in a team which creates more goal scoring opportunities and in a team which scored 19 more goals than wigan, Kuyt also takes alot of our penalties aswell(i dont know if Nzogbia takes wigans penalty). Putting all these things together Nzogbia stats arnt that bad when compared to Kuyt. I would like to see how many goals and assists Kuyt would get playing for a team like wigan that dont create as many goal scoring opportunites( as most his goals are from close range), and that fact he doesnt create goals for himself.
Also have a look at Kuyts stats the year before where he played 48( 2 sub) games with 10 goals and 3 assists. 3 assists in 48 games. Again i only mentioned Nzogbia as a decent option for the Squad and comparing their two stats actually i think strengthens that argument especially when looking at the teams they play for.


[/quote]


So now you are backtracking and saying N'Zogbia playing in a poor team unlike Kuyt?? ?? Fucking hell. Kuyt played in a poor team before with Feyernoord and scored many goals.....oh wait...defenders in Dutch league are fucking poor and if N'Zogbia plays for Feyernoord he would score double that amount. That is what you going to say right little man??


Don't get too jumpy just because you don't like him. Your addition to this discussion is somewhat worthless. Just keep your opinions on the low and you might get some replies around here kid.

 

[Justicefloyd]

[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=46217.msg1371279#msg1371279 date=1311845993]
Glocky if you reply to this post im going to beat your fucking head in.
[/quote]


Oncey seriously, what was wrong with that post? I didnt abuse anyone & im just stating my opinion on kuyt in a non hateful manner. I am discussing the topic @ hand & not starting trouble, seriously wake up to yourself, what sort of forum is this?

 

[mark1975]

[quote author=Justicefloyd link=topic=46217.msg1371294#msg1371294 date=1311846934]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=46217.msg1371279#msg1371279 date=1311845993]
Glocky if you reply to this post im going to beat your fucking head in.
[/quote]


Oncey seriously, what was wrong with that post? I didnt abuse anyone & im just stating my opinion on kuyt in a non hateful manner. I am discussing the topic @ hand & not starting trouble, seriously wake up to yourself, what sort of forum is this?
[/quote]

I think he meant because you're both going round in circles, talking shite.


Could just be me like...

 

[Rosco]

Everyone needs to relax a bit.


And yeah I realise how that sounds coming from me.

 

[Glock21]

[quote author=Justicefloyd link=topic=46217.msg1371294#msg1371294 date=1311846934]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=46217.msg1371279#msg1371279 date=1311845993]
Glocky if you reply to this post im going to beat your fucking head in.
[/quote]


Oncey seriously, what was wrong with that post? I didnt abuse anyone & im just stating my opinion on kuyt in a non hateful manner. I am discussing the topic @ hand & not starting trouble, seriously wake up to yourself, what sort of forum is this?
[/quote]


JusticeFloyd kid, dont' cry boy....like i said, just keep your opinions on the low and you might get replies around here.

 

[LeTallecWiz]

Glock - these statements are idiotic:

And earlier in the thread you've suggested we go for N'Zogbia...have you seen him play? How many goals did he score last season and how many assists? 10 goals and 5 assists in all competition ... N'Zogbia is full of runs and guess what....no end product.

How is 10 goals and 5 assists NO end product?!?!

Kuyt played in a poor team before with Feyernoord and scored many goals.....oh wait...defenders in Dutch league are fucking poor and if N'Zogbia plays for Feyernoord he would score double that amount.

Kuyt played as a striker for Feyernoord. N'Zogbia plays as a winger. Terrible comparison.

I don't know how you can call Feyernoord a 'poor team' either - they challenged PSV for the title in 2005/06 before he signed for us, and used to be one of the top teams in Holland.

 

[mark1975]

[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=46217.msg1371301#msg1371301 date=1311847469]
Glock - these statements are idiotic:

And earlier in the thread you've suggested we go for N'Zogbia...have you seen him play? How many goals did he score last season and how many assists? 10 goals and 5 assists in all competition ... N'Zogbia is full of runs and guess what....no end product.

How is 10 goals and 5 assists NO end product?!?!

Kuyt played in a poor team before with Feyernoord and scored many goals.....oh wait...defenders in Dutch league are fucking poor and if N'Zogbia plays for Feyernoord he would score double that amount.

Kuyt played as a striker for Feyernoord. N'Zogbia plays as a winger. Terrible comparison.

I don't know how you can call Feyernoord a 'poor team' either - they challenged PSV for the title in 2005/06 before he signed for us, and used to be one of the top teams in Holland.
[/quote]

Ha... that first quote is mental.

 

[cobrastatus]

I wish I could ignore Glock. I really do. Alas, even his mental ramblings are entertaining once in a while.

 

[spider-Neil]

[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=46217.msg1371303#msg1371303 date=1311847669]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=46217.msg1371301#msg1371301 date=1311847469]
Glock - these statements are idiotic:

And earlier in the thread you've suggested we go for N'Zogbia...have you seen him play? How many goals did he score last season and how many assists? 10 goals and 5 assists in all competition ... N'Zogbia is full of runs and guess what....no end product.

How is 10 goals and 5 assists NO end product?!?!

Kuyt played in a poor team before with Feyernoord and scored many goals.....oh wait...defenders in Dutch league are fucking poor and if N'Zogbia plays for Feyernoord he would score double that amount.

Kuyt played as a striker for Feyernoord. N'Zogbia plays as a winger. Terrible comparison.

I don't know how you can call Feyernoord a 'poor team' either - they challenged PSV for the title in 2005/06 before he signed for us, and used to be one of the top teams in Holland.
[/quote]

Ha... that first quote is mental.
[/quote]

legendary but not as legenday as all argentinians being two footed. to this day I don't know if glock was serious about that.

 

[Justicefloyd]

I might aswell put my starting 11 up


Reina


Kelly Carragher skertle Robinson



Johnson Gerrard Meireles Downing



Suarez Carroll


If suarez and gerrard arent available for the 1st game, ill put meireles behind carroll then charlie adams & hederson in the middle.

 

[Fabio]

Disagree over formation, lb, rb and re.

Other than that it's a decent choice

 

[redhorizon2]

[quote author=Fabio link=topic=46217.msg1371328#msg1371328 date=1311849565]
Disagree over formation, lb, rb and re.

Other than that it's a decent choice
[/quote]
and on the bench ( your super subs)

 

[Justicefloyd]

[quote author=Fabio link=topic=46217.msg1371328#msg1371328 date=1311849565]
Disagree over formation, lb, rb and re.

Other than that it's a decent choice
[/quote]

Its a big call to put robinson @ left back but i like what ive seen from him. He's held his own against aresnal when thrown in the deepend and walcott couldnt out run him but i think kk would go for johnson @ LB if we dont buy any1 else. Weve got the choice to play a few different formations & swap players around. At the end of the day there's are going to be quality players on the bech which is a good thing for the team. If a couple of players arent on their game theirs quality to come on, something we havent had in a long time.

 

[Ryan]

I'll tell you the only thing more ridiculous than the autistic debate Floyd and Glock are having; LeTall fucking dissecting them bit by bit and asking for clarification.

MCFLY!