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One more thought on strategy, because I am trying to rationalize strategy.
We have only had one signing on Klopp who slotted in on Day 1 - Allison. Some will argue VVD, but for his first half season, he was just a very good CB. Only last year did he become what he was bought to do - lead the defense and make every player beside and in front of him better.
So, any fantasy of signing cover for our early season absence or fitness of our front 3 is really just that. Shaq did contribute some quick goals/assists last year and should be able to do same this year.
Reasonable concern is fatigue and injuries, but we did have those last year (Gomez, Lovren, Llallana, Shaq, Firmino - with 4 less games that Salah and 9 sub appearances) and, of course, Ox, who was a starter at end of prior season.
We managed well. Others stepped up, not always the obvious ones - Matip, Origi.
So, I do have some faith. Firmino and VVD are biggest concerns - they are most unique, but could not be replaced in transfer market anyway. We do have a squad with loads of talent (much of it unproven at this level).
Getting excited to see what might happen.
We have only had one signing on Klopp who slotted in on Day 1 - Allison. Some will argue VVD, but for his first half season, he was just a very good CB. Only last year did he become what he was bought to do - lead the defense and make every player beside and in front of him better.
So, any fantasy of signing cover for our early season absence or fitness of our front 3 is really just that. Shaq did contribute some quick goals/assists last year and should be able to do same this year.
Reasonable concern is fatigue and injuries, but we did have those last year (Gomez, Lovren, Llallana, Shaq, Firmino - with 4 less games that Salah and 9 sub appearances) and, of course, Ox, who was a starter at end of prior season.
We managed well. Others stepped up, not always the obvious ones - Matip, Origi.
So, I do have some faith. Firmino and VVD are biggest concerns - they are most unique, but could not be replaced in transfer market anyway. We do have a squad with loads of talent (much of it unproven at this level).
Getting excited to see what might happen.
Definitely maybe.
I’d say Salah slotted into the team straight away.
And Mane - scored that goal against Arsenal on his debut
Fair point on there. So, corrected.
True. And, then set my expectations for what should follow. Instead, it took another 4-5 months to see any consistency from him and really only appeared in Year 2.
What? Mane and Salah slotted in instantly
Not loosing anyone is like a new signing
Jurgen Klopp hails this window as a victory for Liverpool due to a transfer first
Reds boss speaks of his happiness at retaining all of his winning squad
By Ian Doyle Liverpool reporter
22:30, 2 AUG 2019
Liverpool have been questioned in some quarters for not strengthening in the wake of their Champions League final triumph in June, with teenage duo Sepp van den Berg and Harvey Elliott the only new arrivals.
Klopp has long declared himself happy with his present squad, although there is still scope for at least one new face before Thursday's transfer deadline with a versatile left-sided player a more likely option.
And key to that has been retaining the services of leading talent such as Mohamed Salah, Sadio Mane and Roberto Firmino, who all signed long-term deals within the last 18 months.
When Klopp was in charge of Borussia Dortmund, his efforts to build on the success of two Bundesliga titles, a German Cup and a Champions League final appearance were hampered by the loss of Nuri Sahin, Shinji Kagawa, Mario Gotze and Robert Lewandowski in successive seasons.
Mane will return for pre-season training following Sunday's Community Shield against Manchester City at Wembley.
And Klopp said: “For the first time in my career from next Monday I will have the team back together again, that’s true.
“These are the transfers we did, keeping the boys together, staying on our toes, staying aggressive, greedy. Let’s go again.
“Problems will come in the season but generally everything is good. We are not happy about the results (in pre-season) but these problems are sort-able.
“I don’t think too much about how happy I am that the boys are still together, we decided that a long time ago.
“The higher you get, the more difficult it is. But we have a lot of space for improvement. Football is like this. First of all we have to try to reach last season’s level again. It was a good one, that’s the first target we have.
“When, if that happens, then you can make the next steps but it’s not always.. it’s not PlayStation where you can go to the next skill or whatever.”
Liverpool finished second to City last season despite earning a club-record 97 Premier League points before claiming the sizeable consolation of being crowned European champions for a sixth time.
Klopp has been keen to move on from the Champions League final triumph, particularly after a US tour in which many of the off-field activities celebrated the event.
And of their success, the Reds boss said: “There is no extra pressure. The new situation is that it was a big achievement for the club, a big achievement for each individual. It meant a completely different summer. Everybody is talking to you about it.
“If you’re not successful, people still want pictures but don’t talk to you that long. If you win something, everybody feels the need to tell you – first of all congratulations, then where they watched it, how they watched it, how they felt, how their family felt how their friends felt, how the dog felt.
“It’s all nice but it keeps you in that moment. I want to be completely focused on a new season.
“So the boys are fine but the situation is completely different and we have to deal with the situation.
“It’s very important and we will learn it. But no-one gives you a book ‘How To Deal With a Champions League Win’. You have to do it by yourself. The boys are fine, still the sensational characters from last year.”
City are regarded favourites to win at Wembley to add to a four-trophy haul from last season having become the first club ever in England to achieve the domestic treble.
“Because they’ve won the league twice in a row, that’s one reason,” said Klopp.
“Ours was the first year on that level, we have to prove again that we can be on that level – 97 points was not a coincidence but it’s not as if we outplayed all the teams, that we shot them out of the stadium constantly.
“We had tight games. We were a real results machine last year, really impressive.
“But the champions didn’t lose a player, apart from (Vincent) Kompany, but they will be able to do something. They are pretty consistent, a good age group, experienced, they are clear favourites.
“But being a favourite has no influence on a season. Getting a good start, that’s our main thing. It’s one game.
“We will try to gain confidence but if not we will deal with it and learn from it. It’s nicer to win it than not to win it but, afterwards, we will not do a parade. Or nobody told me that.”
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spo...ws/jurgen-klopp-hails-window-victory-16692334
Jurgen Klopp hails this window as a victory for Liverpool due to a transfer first
Reds boss speaks of his happiness at retaining all of his winning squad
By Ian Doyle Liverpool reporter
22:30, 2 AUG 2019
Liverpool have been questioned in some quarters for not strengthening in the wake of their Champions League final triumph in June, with teenage duo Sepp van den Berg and Harvey Elliott the only new arrivals.
Klopp has long declared himself happy with his present squad, although there is still scope for at least one new face before Thursday's transfer deadline with a versatile left-sided player a more likely option.
And key to that has been retaining the services of leading talent such as Mohamed Salah, Sadio Mane and Roberto Firmino, who all signed long-term deals within the last 18 months.
When Klopp was in charge of Borussia Dortmund, his efforts to build on the success of two Bundesliga titles, a German Cup and a Champions League final appearance were hampered by the loss of Nuri Sahin, Shinji Kagawa, Mario Gotze and Robert Lewandowski in successive seasons.
Mane will return for pre-season training following Sunday's Community Shield against Manchester City at Wembley.
And Klopp said: “For the first time in my career from next Monday I will have the team back together again, that’s true.
“These are the transfers we did, keeping the boys together, staying on our toes, staying aggressive, greedy. Let’s go again.
“Problems will come in the season but generally everything is good. We are not happy about the results (in pre-season) but these problems are sort-able.
“I don’t think too much about how happy I am that the boys are still together, we decided that a long time ago.
“The higher you get, the more difficult it is. But we have a lot of space for improvement. Football is like this. First of all we have to try to reach last season’s level again. It was a good one, that’s the first target we have.
“When, if that happens, then you can make the next steps but it’s not always.. it’s not PlayStation where you can go to the next skill or whatever.”
Liverpool finished second to City last season despite earning a club-record 97 Premier League points before claiming the sizeable consolation of being crowned European champions for a sixth time.
Klopp has been keen to move on from the Champions League final triumph, particularly after a US tour in which many of the off-field activities celebrated the event.
And of their success, the Reds boss said: “There is no extra pressure. The new situation is that it was a big achievement for the club, a big achievement for each individual. It meant a completely different summer. Everybody is talking to you about it.
“If you’re not successful, people still want pictures but don’t talk to you that long. If you win something, everybody feels the need to tell you – first of all congratulations, then where they watched it, how they watched it, how they felt, how their family felt how their friends felt, how the dog felt.
“It’s all nice but it keeps you in that moment. I want to be completely focused on a new season.
“So the boys are fine but the situation is completely different and we have to deal with the situation.
“It’s very important and we will learn it. But no-one gives you a book ‘How To Deal With a Champions League Win’. You have to do it by yourself. The boys are fine, still the sensational characters from last year.”
City are regarded favourites to win at Wembley to add to a four-trophy haul from last season having become the first club ever in England to achieve the domestic treble.
“Because they’ve won the league twice in a row, that’s one reason,” said Klopp.
“Ours was the first year on that level, we have to prove again that we can be on that level – 97 points was not a coincidence but it’s not as if we outplayed all the teams, that we shot them out of the stadium constantly.
“We had tight games. We were a real results machine last year, really impressive.
“But the champions didn’t lose a player, apart from (Vincent) Kompany, but they will be able to do something. They are pretty consistent, a good age group, experienced, they are clear favourites.
“But being a favourite has no influence on a season. Getting a good start, that’s our main thing. It’s one game.
“We will try to gain confidence but if not we will deal with it and learn from it. It’s nicer to win it than not to win it but, afterwards, we will not do a parade. Or nobody told me that.”
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spo...ws/jurgen-klopp-hails-window-victory-16692334
You are not helping me rationalize. I would appreciate more support.
We have Chamberlain back and Clyne will be available in early 2020, we"ve not lost any major players and some of the kids will be more advanced plus the 2 kids we bought.
How insulting.
I apologise.
Also it seems DB has jumped onto the same bandwagon, blissfully unaware, as usual, that the point has already been made.
For that reason I am out, and will now unquestionably accept your rationalisation. Onwards
Adjusted.
God this club attracts some whoppers.
Yes it does.
Thats an excellent signing, hes a very promising young player and they are getting him on the way up, fuck.
He’s the kind of raw diamond we have been looking for. I hope Brewster turns out to be as good, though.
Something must be off with that transfer cause no big clubs(love Rafa) were after him.
Indeed. They've had seemingly good transfer windows before, and reliably fouled them up.
But what does it matter, when you don't need to win things to be a winner?
But what does it matter, when you don't need to win things to be a winner?
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