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[quote author=Loch Ness Monster link=topic=40594.msg1119912#msg1119912 date=1276546623]
If you are used to playing with one thing, and then it changes, it may well affect your performance. Everyone seems to be struggling with it, apart from the Germans who have been using this ball all season in the Bundesliga.
A professional golfer would tell you changingfrom Titliest to Nike balls would ruin his game. As would any fast bowler who was getting thrashed around the park when they introduced the White ball in cricket.
Fact.
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The Argies have been using it there too.
Apparently our FA turned down the option of using it due to other commercial commitments. That even extended to using it as a practice ball for England get togethers. Twats.
If you are used to playing with one thing, and then it changes, it may well affect your performance. Everyone seems to be struggling with it, apart from the Germans who have been using this ball all season in the Bundesliga.
A professional golfer would tell you changingfrom Titliest to Nike balls would ruin his game. As would any fast bowler who was getting thrashed around the park when they introduced the White ball in cricket.
Fact.
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The Argies have been using it there too.
Apparently our FA turned down the option of using it due to other commercial commitments. That even extended to using it as a practice ball for England get togethers. Twats.
Cant we declare this WC a non-event? Start again with a Mitre Delta, or an Adidas Tango?
I'm pissed off, the ball is clearly an issue.
Read more: http://soccerlens.com/world-cup-ball-supernatural-unpredictable-or-cheap/46414/#ixzz0qrgvwRTi
Read more: http://soccerlens.com/world-cup-ball-supernatural-unpredictable-or-cheap/46414/#ixzz0qrgvwRTi
FIFA are total fucking assholes.
I loved the Tango. It used to leave proper stingers after you smashed it against your little brothers' chest.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40594.msg1119963#msg1119963 date=1276550745]
Ps mitre delta is the best ball ever.
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Innit. They even did an all surface version that was blatantly designed for heads & volleys on the school car park. It lasted fucking months.
Ps mitre delta is the best ball ever.
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Innit. They even did an all surface version that was blatantly designed for heads & volleys on the school car park. It lasted fucking months.
The last three world cups have all had massive criticism of the ball. There is no evidence to support them being erratic. As the tournament progressed, and the poorer teams are left behind, people got absorbed, and you heard less about the ball, and more about the games.
So the world cup hasn't really got cooking yet... so what. I've seen a fair few teams that just aren't gelling. You can't seriously not know what a team looks like when it lacks cohesion and misses passes can you, after this season?
So the world cup hasn't really got cooking yet... so what. I've seen a fair few teams that just aren't gelling. You can't seriously not know what a team looks like when it lacks cohesion and misses passes can you, after this season?
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40594.msg1119961#msg1119961 date=1276550688]
[quote author=Loch Ness Monster link=topic=40594.msg1119955#msg1119955 date=1276549981]
Cant we declare this WC a non-event? Start again with a Mitre Delta, or an Adidas Tango?
[/quote]Dont worry, themn and Farky sez it's all in our heads.
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There you go, you can lock the thread now.
[quote author=Loch Ness Monster link=topic=40594.msg1119955#msg1119955 date=1276549981]
Cant we declare this WC a non-event? Start again with a Mitre Delta, or an Adidas Tango?
[/quote]Dont worry, themn and Farky sez it's all in our heads.
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There you go, you can lock the thread now.
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=40594.msg1119968#msg1119968 date=1276551224]
The last three world cups have all had massive criticism of the ball. There is no evidence to support them being erratic. As the tournament progressed, and the poorer teams are left behind, people got absorbed, and you heard less about the ball, and more about the games.
So the world cup hasn't really got cooking yet... so what. I've seen a fair few teams that just aren't gelling. You can't seriously not know what a team looks like when it lacks cohesion and misses passes can you, after this season?
[/quote]Im telling you I've played with this ballFarky and it's crap. I thought it was just me at the time, but the things the proper players are saying are the concerns me and my mates had. And you can see it bourne out in the games. I'm not relating it solely to a slow start and teams not gelling, I'm telling you this ball is shit.
The last three world cups have all had massive criticism of the ball. There is no evidence to support them being erratic. As the tournament progressed, and the poorer teams are left behind, people got absorbed, and you heard less about the ball, and more about the games.
So the world cup hasn't really got cooking yet... so what. I've seen a fair few teams that just aren't gelling. You can't seriously not know what a team looks like when it lacks cohesion and misses passes can you, after this season?
[/quote]Im telling you I've played with this ballFarky and it's crap. I thought it was just me at the time, but the things the proper players are saying are the concerns me and my mates had. And you can see it bourne out in the games. I'm not relating it solely to a slow start and teams not gelling, I'm telling you this ball is shit.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40594.msg1119970#msg1119970 date=1276551499]
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=40594.msg1119968#msg1119968 date=1276551224]
The last three world cups have all had massive criticism of the ball. There is no evidence to support them being erratic. As the tournament progressed, and the poorer teams are left behind, people got absorbed, and you heard less about the ball, and more about the games.
So the world cup hasn't really got cooking yet... so what. I've seen a fair few teams that just aren't gelling. You can't seriously not know what a team looks like when it lacks cohesion and misses passes can you, after this season?
[/quote]Im telling you I've played with this ballFarky and it's crap. I thought it was just me at the time, but the things the proper players are saying are the concerns me and my mates had. And you can see it bourne out in the games. I'm not relating it solely to a slow start and teams not gelling, I'm telling you this ball is shit.
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Did you play with the actual £80 Match ball or a replica ?
How many times have you used it ?
How skilleh are you and your mates ?
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=40594.msg1119968#msg1119968 date=1276551224]
The last three world cups have all had massive criticism of the ball. There is no evidence to support them being erratic. As the tournament progressed, and the poorer teams are left behind, people got absorbed, and you heard less about the ball, and more about the games.
So the world cup hasn't really got cooking yet... so what. I've seen a fair few teams that just aren't gelling. You can't seriously not know what a team looks like when it lacks cohesion and misses passes can you, after this season?
[/quote]Im telling you I've played with this ballFarky and it's crap. I thought it was just me at the time, but the things the proper players are saying are the concerns me and my mates had. And you can see it bourne out in the games. I'm not relating it solely to a slow start and teams not gelling, I'm telling you this ball is shit.
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Did you play with the actual £80 Match ball or a replica ?
How many times have you used it ?
How skilleh are you and your mates ?
[quote author=themn link=topic=40594.msg1119973#msg1119973 date=1276551838]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40594.msg1119970#msg1119970 date=1276551499]
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=40594.msg1119968#msg1119968 date=1276551224]
The last three world cups have all had massive criticism of the ball. There is no evidence to support them being erratic. As the tournament progressed, and the poorer teams are left behind, people got absorbed, and you heard less about the ball, and more about the games.
So the world cup hasn't really got cooking yet... so what. I've seen a fair few teams that just aren't gelling. You can't seriously not know what a team looks like when it lacks cohesion and misses passes can you, after this season?
[/quote]Im telling you I've played with this ballFarky and it's crap. I thought it was just me at the time, but the things the proper players are saying are the concerns me and my mates had. And you can see it bourne out in the games. I'm not relating it solely to a slow start and teams not gelling, I'm telling you this ball is shit.
[/quote]
Did you play with the actual £80 Match ball or a replica ?
How many times have you used it ?
How skilleh are you and your mates ?
[/quote]Matchball. Just for 2 weeks (we all hated it). Pretty much the same as any bunch of lads who play on a weekend.
The lad who brought the ball took it for his midweek 5-a-side mates to use and they sacked it off after one game. It's like a garage ball genuinely. It's a kids ball.
Were now on this years champions league ball which is a beauty (and yes it's the 70 quid jobbie), flies true but stillwith bounce.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40594.msg1119970#msg1119970 date=1276551499]
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=40594.msg1119968#msg1119968 date=1276551224]
The last three world cups have all had massive criticism of the ball. There is no evidence to support them being erratic. As the tournament progressed, and the poorer teams are left behind, people got absorbed, and you heard less about the ball, and more about the games.
So the world cup hasn't really got cooking yet... so what. I've seen a fair few teams that just aren't gelling. You can't seriously not know what a team looks like when it lacks cohesion and misses passes can you, after this season?
[/quote]Im telling you I've played with this ballFarky and it's crap. I thought it was just me at the time, but the things the proper players are saying are the concerns me and my mates had. And you can see it bourne out in the games. I'm not relating it solely to a slow start and teams not gelling, I'm telling you this ball is shit.
[/quote]
Did you play with the actual £80 Match ball or a replica ?
How many times have you used it ?
How skilleh are you and your mates ?
[/quote]Matchball. Just for 2 weeks (we all hated it). Pretty much the same as any bunch of lads who play on a weekend.
The lad who brought the ball took it for his midweek 5-a-side mates to use and they sacked it off after one game. It's like a garage ball genuinely. It's a kids ball.
Were now on this years champions league ball which is a beauty (and yes it's the 70 quid jobbie), flies true but stillwith bounce.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40594.msg1119975#msg1119975 date=1276552106]
[quote author=themn link=topic=40594.msg1119973#msg1119973 date=1276551838]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40594.msg1119970#msg1119970 date=1276551499]
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=40594.msg1119968#msg1119968 date=1276551224]
The last three world cups have all had massive criticism of the ball. There is no evidence to support them being erratic. As the tournament progressed, and the poorer teams are left behind, people got absorbed, and you heard less about the ball, and more about the games.
So the world cup hasn't really got cooking yet... so what. I've seen a fair few teams that just aren't gelling. You can't seriously not know what a team looks like when it lacks cohesion and misses passes can you, after this season?
[/quote]Im telling you I've played with this ballFarky and it's crap. I thought it was just me at the time, but the things the proper players are saying are the concerns me and my mates had. And you can see it bourne out in the games. I'm not relating it solely to a slow start and teams not gelling, I'm telling you this ball is shit.
[/quote]
Did you play with the actual £80 Match ball or a replica ?
How many times have you used it ?
How skilleh are you and your mates ?
[/quote]Matchball. Just for 2 weeks (we all hated it). Pretty much the same as any bunch of lads who play on a weekend.
The lad who brought the ball took it for his midweek 5-a-side mates to use and they sacked it off after one game. It's like a garage ball genuinely. It's a kids ball.
Were now on this years champions league ball which is a beauty (and yes it's the 70 quid jobbie), flies true but stillwith bounce.
[/quote]
It's all in your heads.
[quote author=themn link=topic=40594.msg1119973#msg1119973 date=1276551838]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40594.msg1119970#msg1119970 date=1276551499]
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=40594.msg1119968#msg1119968 date=1276551224]
The last three world cups have all had massive criticism of the ball. There is no evidence to support them being erratic. As the tournament progressed, and the poorer teams are left behind, people got absorbed, and you heard less about the ball, and more about the games.
So the world cup hasn't really got cooking yet... so what. I've seen a fair few teams that just aren't gelling. You can't seriously not know what a team looks like when it lacks cohesion and misses passes can you, after this season?
[/quote]Im telling you I've played with this ballFarky and it's crap. I thought it was just me at the time, but the things the proper players are saying are the concerns me and my mates had. And you can see it bourne out in the games. I'm not relating it solely to a slow start and teams not gelling, I'm telling you this ball is shit.
[/quote]
Did you play with the actual £80 Match ball or a replica ?
How many times have you used it ?
How skilleh are you and your mates ?
[/quote]Matchball. Just for 2 weeks (we all hated it). Pretty much the same as any bunch of lads who play on a weekend.
The lad who brought the ball took it for his midweek 5-a-side mates to use and they sacked it off after one game. It's like a garage ball genuinely. It's a kids ball.
Were now on this years champions league ball which is a beauty (and yes it's the 70 quid jobbie), flies true but stillwith bounce.
[/quote]
It's all in your heads.
uis Fabiano (forward, Brazil):
“It’s very weird. All of a sudden it changes trajectory on you. It’s like it doesn’t want to be kicked. It’s incredible, it’s like someone is guiding it. You are going to kick it and it moves out of the way. I think it’s supernatural, it’s very bad.â€
I have an image in my head of Blatter and co sitting in the stands with a remote control.
“It’s very weird. All of a sudden it changes trajectory on you. It’s like it doesn’t want to be kicked. It’s incredible, it’s like someone is guiding it. You are going to kick it and it moves out of the way. I think it’s supernatural, it’s very bad.â€
I have an image in my head of Blatter and co sitting in the stands with a remote control.
There's remote controls in the balls. It's a conspiracy
Oops. I didn't read the last bit of your post.
Heh, was gonna start a thread about this actually (or maybe not a thread, just a post, but anyway).
Somebody brought two of them there balls to training last Thurs night, and we had a kick around with them. They are noticeably different. The biggest difference everyone noted was how long they stay in the fucking air. The goalkeepers were botting the things miles, and even when we started knocking them about amongst each other they were floating through the air significantly longer than usual.
I didn't notice much of a difference when shooting. The keepers though said they were all over the place, but then they always do.
Anyway, thats about it, and I agree with Oncy. Why make things difficult foer the best players in the World to play? Shouldn't it be the opposite?
Somebody brought two of them there balls to training last Thurs night, and we had a kick around with them. They are noticeably different. The biggest difference everyone noted was how long they stay in the fucking air. The goalkeepers were botting the things miles, and even when we started knocking them about amongst each other they were floating through the air significantly longer than usual.
I didn't notice much of a difference when shooting. The keepers though said they were all over the place, but then they always do.
Anyway, thats about it, and I agree with Oncy. Why make things difficult foer the best players in the World to play? Shouldn't it be the opposite?
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=40594.msg1119996#msg1119996 date=1276555835]
Heh, was gonna start a thread about this actually (or maybe not a thread, just a post, but anyway).
Somebody brought two of them there balls to training last Thurs night, and we had a kick around with them. They are noticeably different. The biggest difference everyone noted was how long they stay in the fucking air. The goalkeepers were botting the things miles, and even when we started knocking them about amongst each other they were floating through the air significantly longer than usual.
I didn't notice much of a difference when shooting. The keepers though said they were all over the place, but then they always do.
Anyway, thats about it, and I agree with Oncy. Why make things difficult foer the best players in the World to play? Shouldn't it be the opposite?
[/quote]I don't know anyone who's played with it who likes it. It's far too poingy.
Heh, was gonna start a thread about this actually (or maybe not a thread, just a post, but anyway).
Somebody brought two of them there balls to training last Thurs night, and we had a kick around with them. They are noticeably different. The biggest difference everyone noted was how long they stay in the fucking air. The goalkeepers were botting the things miles, and even when we started knocking them about amongst each other they were floating through the air significantly longer than usual.
I didn't notice much of a difference when shooting. The keepers though said they were all over the place, but then they always do.
Anyway, thats about it, and I agree with Oncy. Why make things difficult foer the best players in the World to play? Shouldn't it be the opposite?
[/quote]I don't know anyone who's played with it who likes it. It's far too poingy.
hahaha. 'poingy'
[quote author=Mamma Mia link=topic=40594.msg1120068#msg1120068 date=1276586541]
[quote author=themn link=topic=40594.msg1119946#msg1119946 date=1276549188]
Has anyone considered the height above sea-level factor ?
Hey ho !
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Like in Cape Town, Port Elizabeth and Durban?
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I don't actually give a fuck, as you may have gathered.
[quote author=themn link=topic=40594.msg1119946#msg1119946 date=1276549188]
Has anyone considered the height above sea-level factor ?
Hey ho !
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Like in Cape Town, Port Elizabeth and Durban?
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I don't actually give a fuck, as you may have gathered.
[quote author=Mamma Mia link=topic=40594.msg1120068#msg1120068 date=1276586541]
[quote author=themn link=topic=40594.msg1119946#msg1119946 date=1276549188]
Has anyone considered the height above sea-level factor ?
Hey ho !
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Like in Cape Town, Port Elizabeth and Durban?
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Ha, to be fair he didn't say how high.
Maybe it's not high enough at the coast and too high in Jnb, Pta 🙂
[quote author=themn link=topic=40594.msg1119946#msg1119946 date=1276549188]
Has anyone considered the height above sea-level factor ?
Hey ho !
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Like in Cape Town, Port Elizabeth and Durban?
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Ha, to be fair he didn't say how high.
Maybe it's not high enough at the coast and too high in Jnb, Pta 🙂
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