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I expected us to have conceded less, to be honest, but it's testament to Klopps team in that we were not quite as chaotic and frenzied as sometimes the media likes to portray. There remains a greater sense of control under Slot, but there are times we fail to raise the intensity often enough, so it's swings and roundabouts. The true measure of Slot/Klopp comparison between this year and last will be whether we still have legs to consistently win games through March and April.
Yeah but apart from that the big difference this year is that Arse and City aren't as good. We're a little bit better than we were but are the best at the minute. I don't think anyone thought we were clearly the best last year even when we were top for a while because arse and city kept battering teams and looked capable of continuing to do so, whereas we were winning most of our games in the last five minutes and that can only last so long. It feels a lot more stable now.
If City get anything out of their Arsenal game - and we win both Bournemouth AND our game in hand vs Everton - then I think the buffer is enough to see us through whichever injuries we get.
At the moment all signs are good, even if a couple of players do seem to be overplayed. I'm sure Slot knows what an incredible position he is in though.
At the moment all signs are good, even if a couple of players do seem to be overplayed. I'm sure Slot knows what an incredible position he is in though.
Frankly I thought we were rather unimpressive much of last season but the points kept racking up until I convinced myself I didn't know shit.
And then the wheels fell off.
It all boils down to whether Slot has the ability to counter a full-Dreamie season wrecking jinx and our ability to contain him from doing so.
On the flip side we could lose both, Arsenal win and it’s super tight at the top.
Part of me thinks there is 50% chance of us losing both games.
Half of you?
Clearly talking out of his arse.
We did the same in the peak Klopp years too, it felt like we were scoring a lot from corners and set pieces. Would be very nice to get that back and rolling again.
Yes it's difficult to pick out why we aren't and Arsenal are. Maybe it'll even out in the 2nd half of the season.
Some may point to their tactics but again that could still be uneven random chance, these are after all very low sample sizes (e.g. In Roulette or BJ we'd look at rolling 1 year's figures and 10's of thousands of spins or hands to ensure the house was hitting the expected percentages).
However with the ball strikers we've got and with Virgil, Konate and Q. we should be scoring a lot more.
That is exactly the average across the league, 1 in 20 corners produces a goal.
If there is only a 5% chance of a goal from a corner as you suggest, then it feels as though continuing to do the same thing over and over isn't the best use of the opportunity that a corner presents.
But it feels like we should be better. Ibou and Virgil often win the header in the box and just miss the target horribly. We've got a tallish squad, we just don't seem to fight for the corners as much as we could
We've scored 3. For the amount of corners/free kicks we get, that seems fucking badly low
Now comes the real test. To see if we can avoid the dropoff last year's team faced.
Felt like last season we were going behind too many times even when winning and the energy and mental capacity required was intense. Eventually got better of us and we only had a crappy Europa group of 6 games where we rotated heavily to help us out. This season, we already won the European Super league.
I agree. This year we've largely been comfortable even if not always blowing teams away. Last year we seemed to accumulate points despite the results at times.
While the risk of fatigue and mental collapse still remains -- and I'm still a massive fanny in terms of my own nerve down the stretch -- this team seems a lot more likely to get over the line each week.
I worry about the City and Everton matches - form and talent mean nothing there - but if we get through them, we may have enough daylight by the time we face Chelsea and Arsenal in the last four matchdays.
We are very fortunate City imploded this season.
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We weren't fortunate at all - it was forecast (coughs, shines knuckles on lapel) and so has come to pass.
Do we currently have a set piece coach?
I found a list and it seems the arse have the best in the game. We could poach him if Slot really wants him
www.passion4fm.com
I found a list and it seems the arse have the best in the game. We could poach him if Slot really wants him
Best Set-Piece Coaches in Football Manager 2024 • Passion4FM.com
Comprehensive list of best Set-piece coaches in Football Manager 2024. Identify the best set-piece coaches on FM24 & improve the effect of your corner-kick routines.
www.passion4fm.com
Do we currently have a set piece coach?
I found a list and it seems the arse have the best in the game. We could poach him if Slot really wants him
Best Set-Piece Coaches in Football Manager 2024 • Passion4FM.com
Comprehensive list of best Set-piece coaches in Football Manager 2024. Identify the best set-piece coaches on FM24 & improve the effect of your corner-kick routines.
How Liverpool missed out on their No. 1 set-piece coach target (Dated 2 Jan 2025)
Liverpool are yet to officially appoint a specialist set-piece coach after posting a job advert over the summer, and it transpires that they missed their No. 1 target.
Back in May, it emerged that Liverpool were seeking to follow the likes of Arsenal, Aston Villa and Chelsea in appointing their own specialist set-piece coach.
A job advert was posted on the club’s official channels as well as LinkedIn, only for their search to be paused in September, with first-team development coach Aaron Briggs filling the role.
That comes after Liverpool failed to land their priority target in Feyenoord’s Etienne Reijnen, who was at one point believed to be close to a move to Merseyside.
When Liverpool appeared set to land Reijnen, it was unclear exactly which role he would take up on Arne Slot‘s staff, but it would in fact have involved leading set-pieces.
Speaking to Algemeen Dagblad last month, the Liverpool head coach highlighted the role of his former colleague.
“Etienne Reijnen is still at Feyenoord and I recently read that Brian Priske (Slot’s successor) was full of praise for him,” Slot said.
“The set-pieces are a strength at Feyenoord and Reijnen still takes care of them.”
Feyenoord have scored the fourth-most set-piece goals so far in this season’s Eredivisie with eight, which would be joint-second in the Premier League and considerably more than Liverpool who have the second-fewest with two.
Reijnen’s proposed switch fell through due to work permit issues, with the 37-year-old instead remaining in his position as analyst and technical advisor for the Dutch club, but Liverpool could revive their interest in the future.
That would explain their decision to park any search for a specialist and rely on Briggs to fill the role for the time being.
Briggs’ duties within Slot’s staff are wide-ranging, including leading training sessions and bridging the first team and academy squads, and his time is understandably divided.
That makes it likely that Liverpool will eventually appoint a new set-piece coach and that could come if Reijnen is eventually eligible for a UK work permit.
The club faced so no such issue in acquiring a work permit for Slot and support staff such as Sipke Hulshoff, Ruben Peeters and Roderick van der Ham, who all moved to Anfield from Feyenoord.
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Brian Priske on coach Etiënne Rijnen: the ‘Future of Dutch football’ (Dated 26 Nov 2024)
Feyenoord boss Brian Priske has been beaming with positivity surrounding the work of one of his assistants, Etiënne Reijnen. The 37-year-old former defender was an Eredivisie stalwart and is currently responsible for the set pieces at Feyenoord. Impressed with the application he has seen so far, the Danish manager predicts a storied future ahead.
Priske himself has been able to draw parallels already. He started his career as a trainer of set pieces at FC Midtjylland. He grew to assistant trainer and later head trainer.
At Feyenoord, he leaves the set pieces to Reijnen, who was appointed a year ago as an analyst and advisor within the Rotterdammers’ technical staff. Speaking about Reijnen, who played for PEC Zwolle, AZ, Cambuur and FC Groningen, Priske gushed:
“I don’t have to worry about the standard situations, because Etiënne does that great. I’m very happy with him. He’s young, but understands football and is very clear about what he wants. Reijnen is one of those trainers for the future of football in the Netherlands.”
Set pieces have been key for Feyenoord this season. Of all the clubs in the Eredivisie, Feyenoord have had the most shots from set pieces (with 71).
Defensively, only Ajax and PSV have had to deal with fewer shots from set pieces by their opponents. FC Utrecht is the only team that has conceded fewer goals from set pieces, namely zero. Feyenoord have conceded just one goal.
