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So... about that 4th spot

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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47257.msg1415677#msg1415677 date=1319370493]
I think we missed Lucas too. The number of times they picked the ball up between midfield and defense was mental. I think id like to see
Reina
Enrique
Skrtel
Carragher
Johnson

Lucas
Gerrard
Suarez

Maxi
Carroll
Bellamy

Or
Reina
Enrique
Skrtel
Carragher
Johnson

Downing
Gerrard
Lucas
Maxi

Suarez

Carroll.

Or even
Reina
Enrique
Skrtel
Carragher
Johnson

Lucas
Adam

Suarez
Gerrard
Maxi

Carroll.

Basically Carroll up front. HELPING suarez.
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The fact that you want Johnson to start over Kelly renders the rest of the post null and void.
 
we're not that bad but until we start putting the tons of chances we create every game away we'll carry on dropping points
 
I'm in the LTW camp.

I reckon we'll just click and go on a cheeky little run of scorin' an' a-winnin' !
 
[quote author=themn link=topic=47257.msg1415932#msg1415932 date=1319385510]
I'm in the LTW camp.

I reckon we'll just click and go on a cheeky little run of scorin' an' a-winnin' !
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or is that x3???
 
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[quote author=Fabio link=topic=47257.msg1415428#msg1415428 date=1319317548]
Gerrard and Adam need to sort which one of them pressures the attackers and which goes forward to help. So many fucking times they both backed off or refused to go forward.

Fuck the haters. We missed Lucas
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When you have 60% possession and have 29 attempts on goal, it's fair to say there probably wasn't too much wrong with the midfield.

Lucas would have added precisely nothing out there yesterday.
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precisely
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and? Possession means precisely fuck all. Its what you do with the ball. Suarez created 12 chances on his pissing own, the others fell to the wingers mainly. There was no drive or movement from gerrard and adam. They seemed hesistant to bomb forward or close down.

I'm sorry, lucas isn't the greatest DM in the world, but at least he gives gerrard license to roam, something we lacked badly yesterday
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You're right it is what we do with the ball that matters, Gerrard and Adam use the ball much better than Lucas. [/quote]

Define "use better".

Cos if it involves giving the ball away more and playing less forward passes, then yes you're perfectly correct.
 
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[quote author=Fabio link=topic=47257.msg1415428#msg1415428 date=1319317548]
Gerrard and Adam need to sort which one of them pressures the attackers and which goes forward to help. So many fucking times they both backed off or refused to go forward.

Fuck the haters. We missed Lucas
[/quote]

When you have 60% possession and have 29 attempts on goal, it's fair to say there probably wasn't too much wrong with the midfield.

Lucas would have added precisely nothing out there yesterday.
[/quote]

precisely
[/quote]

and? Possession means precisely fuck all. Its what you do with the ball. Suarez created 12 chances on his pissing own, the others fell to the wingers mainly. There was no drive or movement from gerrard and adam. They seemed hesistant to bomb forward or close down.

I'm sorry, lucas isn't the greatest DM in the world, but at least he gives gerrard license to roam, something we lacked badly yesterday
[/quote]

You're right it is what we do with the ball that matters, Gerrard and Adam use the ball much better than Lucas. [/quote]

Define "use better".

Cos if it involves giving the ball away more and playing less forward passes, then yes you're perfectly correct.
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Ok - giving the ball away - probably. But less forward passes? Lucas passes forward more than Adam or Gerrard? You can't be serious.
 
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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=47257.msg1415641#msg1415641 date=1319366898]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=47257.msg1415428#msg1415428 date=1319317548]
Gerrard and Adam need to sort which one of them pressures the attackers and which goes forward to help. So many fucking times they both backed off or refused to go forward.

Fuck the haters. We missed Lucas
[/quote]

When you have 60% possession and have 29 attempts on goal, it's fair to say there probably wasn't too much wrong with the midfield.

Lucas would have added precisely nothing out there yesterday.
[/quote]

precisely
[/quote]

and? Possession means precisely fuck all. Its what you do with the ball. Suarez created 12 chances on his pissing own, the others fell to the wingers mainly. There was no drive or movement from gerrard and adam. They seemed hesistant to bomb forward or close down.

I'm sorry, lucas isn't the greatest DM in the world, but at least he gives gerrard license to roam, something we lacked badly yesterday
[/quote]

You're right it is what we do with the ball that matters, Gerrard and Adam use the ball much better than Lucas. [/quote]

Define "use better".

Cos if it involves giving the ball away more and playing less forward passes, then yes you're perfectly correct.
[/quote]

Take off the tinted glasses man....you are embarrassing yourselg.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=47257.msg1416184#msg1416184 date=1319444565]
I see sabermetrics and statistics have been replaced with made up shite. Good to know.
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For someone who 'gets' football so much, your blindness with regards to Lucas (& Dirk) is mind-boggling.

They're both world class, I'm with you. I just hope the 'big money' teams (Real, Barca, Shitty, Manure etc) don't make any serious efforts to pry them away from us.
 
LeTall, I don't think I've ever seen you come out on top in a debate on this site ever. With anyone.

You just jump from topic to topic with your argument depending on what happened in the previous game, firing off blanks at will. You've got no main points, and are consistently wrong about everything.

It's a credit to you.
 
Didn't Inter make a few enquiries for Dirk? Post Rafa aswel I think.

Wait let's not turn this into a Dirk thread.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=47257.msg1416194#msg1416194 date=1319445160]
LeTall, I don't think I've ever seen you come out on top in a debate on this site ever. With anyone.

You just jump from topic to topic with your argument depending on what happened in the previous game, firing off blanks at will. You've got no main points, and are consistently wrong about everything.

It's a credit to you.
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Thanks Ryan, I appreciate that and agree wtih you whole heartedly.

G-d bless you and I only wish you happiness and good health (I hope we can agree on that point).
 
Ryan, your post about LTW may or may not be true, but your point about Lucas and forward passing is simply LOL.

Just L-O-FUCKING-L man, get a grip, you're starting to sound like Glock.
 
On the question of whether we can get 4th spot, from the weekends results I'd say it was anyone from 5 or 6 as no-one apart from City are showing any real form or consistency.

United have been spanked, Arsenal too; Spurs got off to a bad start, Chelsea are misfiring due to discipline problems, we're stuttering as a new team does.

It's a lottery. Nine games in is too premature to either make predictions or lose hope.
 
I don't think much has changed from the start of the season really, we're still going to be in a battle for 4th with Spurs and the Gooners.
 
Hmm

If suarez and Carroll had put away the chances they should've done then this topic would be a moot point.

Gerrard and Adam weren't spectacular but they didnt need to be.

At the end of the day if we had a goalscorer we would have cleaned up on Saturday
 
So Adam is average and Lucas is this pass completion artist, constantly looking for the killer ball?? Killer as in it usually puts the recipient in danger of a hospital visit.
 
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[quote author=Fabio link=topic=47257.msg1415428#msg1415428 date=1319317548]
Gerrard and Adam need to sort which one of them pressures the attackers and which goes forward to help. So many fucking times they both backed off or refused to go forward.

Fuck the haters. We missed Lucas
[/quote]

When you have 60% possession and have 29 attempts on goal, it's fair to say there probably wasn't too much wrong with the midfield.

Lucas would have added precisely nothing out there yesterday.
[/quote]

precisely
[/quote]

and? Possession means precisely fuck all. Its what you do with the ball. Suarez created 12 chances on his pissing own, the others fell to the wingers mainly. There was no drive or movement from gerrard and adam. They seemed hesistant to bomb forward or close down.

I'm sorry, lucas isn't the greatest DM in the world, but at least he gives gerrard license to roam, something we lacked badly yesterday
[/quote]

You're right it is what we do with the ball that matters, Gerrard and Adam use the ball much better than Lucas. [/quote]

Define "use better".

Cos if it involves giving the ball away more and playing less forward passes, then yes you're perfectly correct.
[/quote]

Lucas doesn't create anything, both of them do.

In his last game Lucas played 0 passes into the final third - and that's not unusual.
 
[quote author=jexykrodic link=topic=47257.msg1416210#msg1416210 date=1319446406]
On the question of whether we can get 4th spot, from the weekends results I'd say it was anyone from 5 or 6 as no-one apart from City are showing any real form or consistency.

United have been spanked, Arsenal too; Spurs got off to a bad start, Chelsea are misfiring due to discipline problems, we're stuttering as a new team does.

It's a lottery. Nine games in is too premature to either make predictions or lose hope.
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Can we? Of course we can.

Will we? Far, far too early to tell. Nobody outside of Manchester has shown anythng to make me think that we're not capable of ending the season above them, if we sort ourselves out.
 
LeTall - apologies for my comments to you earlier in this thread, they were over the top.

Soz.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=47257.msg1416609#msg1416609 date=1319493094]
LeTall - apologies for my comments to you earlier in this thread, they were over the top.

Soz.
[/quote]I love you Ryan. Youve turned into a fine man.
 
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=47257.msg1416609#msg1416609 date=1319493094]
LeTall - apologies for my comments to you earlier in this thread, they were over the top.

Soz.
[/quote]I love you Ryan. Youve turned into a fine man.
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A better man?
 
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=47257.msg1416609#msg1416609 date=1319493094]
LeTall - apologies for my comments to you earlier in this thread, they were over the top.

Soz.
[/quote]I love you Ryan. Youve turned into a fine man.
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Thanks Oncy. Ditto that you big sexy cunt.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=47257.msg1416609#msg1416609 date=1319493094]
LeTall - apologies for my comments to you earlier in this thread, they were over the top.

Soz.
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it's ok mate - i 'know' you well enough already. all's well (& forgiven if there's a need)
 
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=47257.msg1416609#msg1416609 date=1319493094]
LeTall - apologies for my comments to you earlier in this thread, they were over the top.

Soz.
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it's ok mate - i 'know' you well enough already. all's well (& forgiven if there's a need)
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Ah, man love! Love it.
 
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=47257.msg1416609#msg1416609 date=1319493094]
LeTall - apologies for my comments to you earlier in this thread, they were over the top.

Soz.
[/quote]I love you Ryan. Youve turned into a fine man.
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A better man?
[/quote]Not for me no, but we've all known each other for manys a year now and i think the best parts of Ryan are what he became and the parts you probably ought not be proud of were left behind as the impetuousity of youth.
Same can be said of many chaps on here.
You know like when some woman is leaving her man or some mate is shaking his head at his annoying friend and the dumped fella or annoying friend is all like 'Why why I havnt changed?!' well yeah, thats kinda the point. How sad it is to not change from when you are a young man, how sat to not WANT to change, not WANT to be a better person. Like people see it as something to be proud of 'Not changing' as if they were perfect to begin with. Pretty sad.
I want to change for the better today and the next and all the days after that.
Being the person you always were is pretty fucking pathetic really.
 
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