Appeal appeal appeal .
The FA seem to be getting rounded on by all the fuck-wit media that stirred all the thing up out of all proportion in the first place.
The only people that seem to be agreeing with the extent of the punishment are some of our ex players the club should not forget that.
I think we stand a good chance, it's bad enough as it is , I can't see it could be much worse, it's worth the chance.
Yep me too. I was very surprised with the guy from The Independent's view today. Very complimentary towards Suarez. We'll see about tomorrow.I'll be interested to see what the media take is tomorrow
Appeal appeal appeal .
The FA seem to be getting rounded on by all the fuck-wit media that stirred all the thing up out of all proportion in the first place.
The only people that seem to be agreeing with the extent of the punishment are some of our ex players the club should not forget that.
I think we stand a good chance, it's bad enough as it is , I can't see it could be much worse, it's worth the chance.
Moral relativism can be used to attempt to excuse, or at least soften, misdemeanours of many kinds.
It is not often, fortunately, that the penalties for racially abusing someone and biting an opponent on the arm invite comparison.
But in the troubling case of Luis Suarez and Branislav Ivanovic, the FA appear to have slithered into rather a sinister position.
No one with a brain would dispute that Suarez deserved to be punished for biting Ivanovic during the Liverpool-Chelsea game at Anfield on Sunday.
What he did was shocking, animalistic and stupid and fully warranted a ban from the game.
But the offence was trivial.
No one was hurt.
The trainer was not called.
There has not been any suggestion that Ivanovic needed medical attention.
Ivanovic’s career was not endangered, as say Massadio Haidara’s was by Callum McManaman’s tackle when Wigan played Newcastle recently.
And yet for this heinous nip, the FA has chosen to ban Suarez for 10 games.
That’s two more than Suarez got for racially abusing Patrice Evra.
That’s six more than John Terry got for racially abusing Anton Ferdinand.
That’s 10 more than McManaman got for taking Haidara out at the knee.
I’m sorry, but I think that’s instructive.
Painfully instructive.
It means they care less about a player being abused because of the colour of his skin than they do about a bite that may not even have broken his skin.
Maybe the majority agree with that sliding scale of punishments, but it seems strange and sinister to me.
Yes, they’re both wrong but the FA has decided that one is more wrong than the other.
Maybe we shouldn’t be surprised.
This is the same FA, after all, who turned the other way when they were told England fans had sung a racist song at a World Cup qualifying tie in San Marino.
So this is where they stand.
They consider biting someone on the arm a more serious footballing crime than racial abuse.
It’s moral relativism, sure, and, once again, there is no point trying to defend Suarez.
No one’s ever done that.
Yes, the yummy mummy on top of the Clapham Omnibus might be yah-yahhing her approval for the punishment meted out to a football wretch.
When he was banned for eight games for racially abusing Evra, some Liverpool fans said he was being victimised by the FA.
They were wrong.
Now, many are saying the same thing.
This time, they are right.
The FA has picked on an easy target.
It has taken the easy decision.
It has pleased the crowd.
And in the process, it has set a dangerous, depressing precedent.
Holt is ignoring that there is probably an element of the ban for cumulative offences, whereas there wasn't for the racist incident.
Should there be though? He's been punished for those offenses already. Ferdinand got a fine for his "choc ice" comment last year. Did anyone consider the multitude of sins he's committed? Did the FA consider Rooney's tarnished record when begging for his ban to be rescinded? Course they didn't. It's inconsistent, and coming out and stating prior to an investigation that "three games won't suffice" just shows them up for what they are. I don't know why people are being so defensive of them, they've grabbed the 10 games out of thin air because of who he is, and the worst thing is, most of us expected it, and got a accused of being paranoid or whatever for it, by the usual blerts on here.
Then certain players should never be on the receiving end of yellow cards, if they're serial offenders. Straight red for a trip. Or why not 20 games?Holt is ignoring that there is probably an element of the ban for cumulative offences, whereas there wasn't for the racist incident.
Should there be though? He's been punished for those offenses already. Ferdinand got a fine for his "choc ice" comment last year. Did anyone consider the multitude of sins he's committed? Did the FA consider Rooney's tarnished record when begging for his ban to be rescinded? Course they didn't. It's inconsistent, and coming out and stating prior to an investigation that "three games won't suffice" just shows them up for what they are. I don't know why people are being so defensive of them, they've grabbed the 10 games out of thin air because of who he is, and the worst thing is, most of us expected it, and got a accused of being paranoid or whatever for it, by the usual blerts on here.
Holt is bang on the money. Well done Pepe aswell.
We HAVE to appeal.
Then certain players should never be on the receiving end of yellow cards, if they're serial offenders. Straight red for a trip. Or why not 20 games?
The question is whether or not an appeal is likely to reduce the ban or increase it
Harsher punishments for repeat offences are so common, and so widely accepted in society at large, that it's a pretty big leap to say they shouldn't exist. Yellow cards for a number of fouls? Ever heard of that one? A shorter sentence for first time offenders? Ever heard of that?
The accumulated yellow card rule is already written in stone. It's a rule everybody knows. But why should they even allow for the first yellow card in your example? A player that's been sent off multiple times and have got countless yellows in previous seasons should be sent straight off and given a massive ban by your logic.Harsher punishments for repeat offences are so common, and so widely accepted in society at large, that it's a pretty big leap to say they shouldn't exist. Yellow cards for a number of fouls? Ever heard of that one? A shorter sentence for first time offenders? Ever heard of that?
I dont think its worth appealling.
We should just wear it. They wont overturn it. They never ever do.
All everyday normal legal principles and procedures are greeted with shock and disgust by Liverpool fans when Suarez is being punished.