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So a ten game ban..

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Appeal appeal appeal .
The FA seem to be getting rounded on by all the fuck-wit media that stirred all the thing up out of all proportion in the first place.
The only people that seem to be agreeing with the extent of the punishment are some of our ex players the club should not forget that.
I think we stand a good chance, it's bad enough as it is , I can't see it could be much worse, it's worth the chance.
 
Appeal appeal appeal .
The FA seem to be getting rounded on by all the fuck-wit media that stirred all the thing up out of all proportion in the first place.
The only people that seem to be agreeing with the extent of the punishment are some of our ex players the club should not forget that.
I think we stand a good chance, it's bad enough as it is , I can't see it could be much worse, it's worth the chance.

As long as some of the matches are removed and not suspended.

Getting some of the matches suspended would be awful imo, we'd have that hanging over his head for ages and a storm brewing about it every time he does something odd.
 
I'd normally disagree with appealing, but it does a lot of the media are saying it's too long, so even if they don't reduce it I doubt they'd risk increasing it.

I often wonder whether the club is given a nod & a wink as to whether there's any chance of an appeal being worthwhile beforehand. I find it hard to believe if there's was zero chance someone wouldn't tip us off to that by some means.
 
10 fucking games...

I still can't believe it

5 games ban with 5 suspended for a period of 18 months, would be an outcome I'd seek for an appeal.. no way will the cnuts back down..

Basically he does it again he is fooked..



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I'll be interested to see what the media take is tomorrow
Yep me too. I was very surprised with the guy from The Independent's view today. Very complimentary towards Suarez. We'll see about tomorrow.
 
Why can't the club just keep quiet when necessary?

I'm not spending £100's a month on this bullshit anymore. I'd rather spend £100 a year on Maine Road FC.

Pathetic.
 
Appeal appeal appeal .
The FA seem to be getting rounded on by all the fuck-wit media that stirred all the thing up out of all proportion in the first place.
The only people that seem to be agreeing with the extent of the punishment are some of our ex players the club should not forget that.
I think we stand a good chance, it's bad enough as it is , I can't see it could be much worse, it's worth the chance.

Yep. Well said.
 
It was to be expected.

The only thing I find odd is that biting with no lasting/ short term damage gets you a longer ban than being racist in One of the biggest sporting events in the world..

Still Suarez to come in early September time, mega fresh and chomping at the bit. I'd say its entirely possible that he feeds of chaos - so who knows how effective he'll be next season
 
Liverpool goalkeeper Pepe Reina has defended team-mate Luis Suarez and claimed the Uruguayan is treated differently by the Football Association and media in England.

Reina says that there is hypocrisy and questioned the fairness of decisions.
Speaking on Spanish radio station COPE, Reina said:
“They treat Suárez differently, because he’s Uruguayan. He knows what he did is wrong, but 10 games is absurd, excessive and unfair.”
“Those [from the FA] who are making decisions lately are using Luis [Suárez] as a scapegoat.”
“Some get 4 games for racism and others 8. Where is the fairness?”
“Whoever knows Suárez knows he’s a great team-mate. He’s aggressive on the pitch, and that sometimes plays a dirty trick on him.”
Reina was asked about the media in England:
“In England many media are very, very, very, very, and I stress it, very hypocritical.”
Asked about the difference between the Suarez incident with Ivanovic, and Jermaine Defoe’s bite on Javier Mascherano in 2006, Reina said:
“They said it was a refereed incident. Anyway, they were other times, I guess… He was an English player, I guess.”
He was then asked whether he thought it was xenophobic:
“Xenophobia in England? (thinks) There’s hypocrisy, I don’t know if xenophobia. I’m very happy here. They’ve treated me very well.”
Liverpool will decide on Thursday whether to appeal the ban, something they have been advised against doing, after they receive the written reasons from The FA.
 
Ollie Holt in the Mirror:

Moral relativism can be used to attempt to excuse, or at least soften, misdemeanours of many kinds.

It is not often, fortunately, that the penalties for racially abusing someone and biting an opponent on the arm invite comparison.

But in the troubling case of Luis Suarez and Branislav Ivanovic, the FA appear to have slithered into rather a sinister position.

No one with a brain would dispute that Suarez deserved to be punished for biting Ivanovic during the Liverpool-Chelsea game at Anfield on Sunday.

What he did was shocking, animalistic and stupid and fully warranted a ban from the game.

But the offence was trivial.

No one was hurt.

The trainer was not called.

There has not been any suggestion that Ivanovic needed medical attention.

Ivanovic’s career was not endangered, as say Massadio Haidara’s was by Callum McManaman’s tackle when Wigan played Newcastle recently.

And yet for this heinous nip, the FA has chosen to ban Suarez for 10 games.

That’s two more than Suarez got for racially abusing Patrice Evra.

That’s six more than John Terry got for racially abusing Anton Ferdinand.

That’s 10 more than McManaman got for taking Haidara out at the knee.

I’m sorry, but I think that’s instructive.

Painfully instructive.

It means they care less about a player being abused because of the colour of his skin than they do about a bite that may not even have broken his skin.

Maybe the majority agree with that sliding scale of punishments, but it seems strange and sinister to me.

Yes, they’re both wrong but the FA has decided that one is more wrong than the other.

Maybe we shouldn’t be surprised.

This is the same FA, after all, who turned the other way when they were told England fans had sung a racist song at a World Cup qualifying tie in San Marino.

So this is where they stand.

They consider biting someone on the arm a more serious footballing crime than racial abuse.

It’s moral relativism, sure, and, once again, there is no point trying to defend Suarez.

No one’s ever done that.

Yes, the yummy mummy on top of the Clapham Omnibus might be yah-yahhing her approval for the punishment meted out to a football wretch.

When he was banned for eight games for racially abusing Evra, some Liverpool fans said he was being victimised by the FA.

They were wrong.

Now, many are saying the same thing.

This time, they are right.

The FA has picked on an easy target.

It has taken the easy decision.

It has pleased the crowd.

And in the process, it has set a dangerous, depressing precedent.
 
Holt is ignoring that there is probably an element of the ban for cumulative offences, whereas there wasn't for the racist incident.
 
Holt is ignoring that there is probably an element of the ban for cumulative offences, whereas there wasn't for the racist incident.

Should there be though? He's been punished for those offenses already. Ferdinand got a fine for his "choc ice" comment last year. Did anyone consider the multitude of sins he's committed? Did the FA consider Rooney's tarnished record when begging for his ban to be rescinded? Course they didn't. It's inconsistent, and coming out and stating prior to an investigation that "three games won't suffice" just shows them up for what they are. I don't know why people are being so defensive of them, they've grabbed the 10 games out of thin air because of who he is, and the worst thing is, most of us expected it, and got a accused of being paranoid or whatever for it, by the usual blerts on here.
 
Should there be though? He's been punished for those offenses already. Ferdinand got a fine for his "choc ice" comment last year. Did anyone consider the multitude of sins he's committed? Did the FA consider Rooney's tarnished record when begging for his ban to be rescinded? Course they didn't. It's inconsistent, and coming out and stating prior to an investigation that "three games won't suffice" just shows them up for what they are. I don't know why people are being so defensive of them, they've grabbed the 10 games out of thin air because of who he is, and the worst thing is, most of us expected it, and got a accused of being paranoid or whatever for it, by the usual blerts on here.

Inconsistent? yes, but at the same time you could argue that Michael Owen would not have got a 2-match ban for swearing after scoring a goal.

Refs are inconsistent and so are the independent disciplinary panels. The media hysteria got Suarez the 10-match ban, just like hostile environments in the stadium affect referee decisions.
 
Holt is ignoring that there is probably an element of the ban for cumulative offences, whereas there wasn't for the racist incident.
Then certain players should never be on the receiving end of yellow cards, if they're serial offenders. Straight red for a trip. Or why not 20 games?
 
Should there be though? He's been punished for those offenses already. Ferdinand got a fine for his "choc ice" comment last year. Did anyone consider the multitude of sins he's committed? Did the FA consider Rooney's tarnished record when begging for his ban to be rescinded? Course they didn't. It's inconsistent, and coming out and stating prior to an investigation that "three games won't suffice" just shows them up for what they are. I don't know why people are being so defensive of them, they've grabbed the 10 games out of thin air because of who he is, and the worst thing is, most of us expected it, and got a accused of being paranoid or whatever for it, by the usual blerts on here.


Should there be? IMO yes, absolutely. Are there inconsistencies? Maybe. Personally I don't much care, but you could well be right. The FA stated that a 3 game ban would be insufficient because they have to. That's been said numerous times on here so not sure why it's not sinking in.
 
Then certain players should never be on the receiving end of yellow cards, if they're serial offenders. Straight red for a trip. Or why not 20 games?

Harsher punishments for repeat offences are so common, and so widely accepted in society at large, that it's a pretty big leap to say they shouldn't exist. Yellow cards for a number of fouls? Ever heard of that one? A shorter sentence for first time offenders? Ever heard of that?
 
The question is whether or not an appeal is likely to reduce the ban or increase it

I think that's irrelevant, quite honestly. We have to appeal because we think the ban is over the top and we want to support our player, not because we think it's got a chance of being reduced.

That being said, I think Suarez will now decide he's had enough of english football and leave this summer.
 
Harsher punishments for repeat offences are so common, and so widely accepted in society at large, that it's a pretty big leap to say they shouldn't exist. Yellow cards for a number of fouls? Ever heard of that one? A shorter sentence for first time offenders? Ever heard of that?

All everyday normal legal principles and procedures are greeted with shock and disgust by Liverpool fans when Suarez is being punished.
 
Harsher punishments for repeat offences are so common, and so widely accepted in society at large, that it's a pretty big leap to say they shouldn't exist. Yellow cards for a number of fouls? Ever heard of that one? A shorter sentence for first time offenders? Ever heard of that?
The accumulated yellow card rule is already written in stone. It's a rule everybody knows. But why should they even allow for the first yellow card in your example? A player that's been sent off multiple times and have got countless yellows in previous seasons should be sent straight off and given a massive ban by your logic.
 
I dont think its worth appealling.

We should just wear it. They wont overturn it. They never ever do.
 
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