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Back playing decent opposition today and back to being shite again. He is a liability cant tackle to save his life. Wrongly had a foul given against him when Townsend dived in the box but in the first half the free outside the box should have been a penalty. It wont be long before he is sitting on the bench for Swansea.
Pity that never seems to happen
[article=http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/429507/Superstar-egos-won-t-survive-here-warns-team-spirited-Liverpool-boss-Brendan-Rodgers?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+daily-express-football-news+%28Daily+Express+%3A%3A+Football+Feed%29]“I won’t wait six months to tell players something I know now. I’m not going to bluff. The one thing players appreciate, though they might not like it, is straight talking.”
It’s why Jonjo Shelvey will line up against Liverpool at Liberty Stadium, instead of playing for them.
Rodgers explained: “Jonjo will tell you I had the situation with him where I said, ‘Listen, son, this is where you are at. You are 21 and vying in your position with the England captain, who will probably be playing in your position for the next couple of years. You have a choice – you stay, you will get some games and you will learn; or you go to a club and play regularly, week in, week out.’
“There were a few clubs interested. I said I thought the best club for him would be Swansea – a brilliant city, brilliant people, a club well run and the football would suit him. It was his decision.
“He’s a good kid. He’s at an age where he needs to be playing. He was guaranteed to play at Swansea.”
Rodgers believes honesty is the best policy. “I did the same at Chelsea with players like John Terry. I see them as people and ultimately that’s where you get your respect,” he said.
“I would be the same if I was boss of a media group. I would be trying to make everyone the best they can be.”[/article]
It’s why Jonjo Shelvey will line up against Liverpool at Liberty Stadium, instead of playing for them.
Rodgers explained: “Jonjo will tell you I had the situation with him where I said, ‘Listen, son, this is where you are at. You are 21 and vying in your position with the England captain, who will probably be playing in your position for the next couple of years. You have a choice – you stay, you will get some games and you will learn; or you go to a club and play regularly, week in, week out.’
“There were a few clubs interested. I said I thought the best club for him would be Swansea – a brilliant city, brilliant people, a club well run and the football would suit him. It was his decision.
“He’s a good kid. He’s at an age where he needs to be playing. He was guaranteed to play at Swansea.”
Rodgers believes honesty is the best policy. “I did the same at Chelsea with players like John Terry. I see them as people and ultimately that’s where you get your respect,” he said.
“I would be the same if I was boss of a media group. I would be trying to make everyone the best they can be.”[/article]
He sees John Terry as a person?
*incredulous*
*incredulous*
Good for him!
Not too many managers I'd prefer for him to model after.
The Ferguson brown envelope bollocks was embarrassing.
Not too many managers I'd prefer for him to model after.
The Ferguson brown envelope bollocks was embarrassing.
slightly bizarre comment indeed, Rupert Murdoch watch out!
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Brendan Rodgers is breeding hunger at Liverpool with food for thought
The manager says frank chats have led to amicable departures or to the development of attitudes he seeks at Anfield
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Paul Wilson
The Observer, Saturday 14 September 2013 18.00 EDT
Brendan Rodgers talks to Steven Gerrard at Liverpool training in the build-up to the trip to Swansea. Photograph: Andrew Powell/Liverpool FC via Getty Images
Brendan Rodgers returns to Swansea City on Monday evening, not for the first time as Liverpool manager but the first time as manager of the month, with a side at the top of the table at the start of the weekend and the Premier League's only 100% record.
"We've made a good start," he says. "But it is only a start. It is important to maintain the level we have set for ourselves and no one here is getting over-excited this early. I believe we can still play better and of course you don't need to tell me that you never get an easy game at the Liberty Stadium."
Waiting to meet Liverpool in south Wales will be Jonjo Shelvey, formerly of Anfield, a player who decided to take Rodgers' advice when he realised his opportunities on Merseyside would be limited. "Jonjo himself will tell you what happened," Rodgers says. "He wanted to know where he stood, so I told him. I said: 'Where you are at the moment is behind the captain of Liverpool and England, who plays in your position. So you can stay and pick up knowledge and experience but probably not play in too many games for the next couple of years or you can find a new club and play week in week out. Several clubs have expressed an interest in taking you but the one I would recommend is Swansea.'"
Shelvey listened, as did Pepe Reina when Rodgers told him he wanted more competition for the goalkeeper's shirt. "Pepe is a lovely guy and a very good goalkeeper but I didn't think he was being pushed hard enough," the Liverpool manager explains. "So I took him out for dinner and told him that. I explained that my whole coaching philosophy is based on hunger and competition and I didn't want anyone getting too comfortable.
"He had been at the club a number of years and done well but I didn't do anything underhand. I looked him in the eye and told him I was thinking of bringing in another goalkeeper good enough to be No1. He accepted that at the time. When he decided he wanted to go on loan to Napoli I never got the two No1s I had wanted but I still ended up with a good goalkeeper. Simon Mignolet had the hunger, he wanted to come here and prove himself and that's what I wanted to see. I was comfortable enough with the situation to let Pepe go. Looking at it from his position, it is a World Cup season and he needs to be on view."
Although a restaurant seems the perfect venue to debate whether or not a player is sufficiently hungry, Rodgers does not make a habit of booking tables to deliver bad news, otherwise he would quickly find himself dining alone. He simply likes to be up front and available for discussion when he has something to say. "One thing I'll always do with players is let them know what I am thinking to their face," he says.
"I won't wait six months to tell them what I know now. There's no point bluffing because I believe players appreciate honesty. One of the things I've learned in all my years of coaching is that not only are players human beings like the rest of us but that some of the biggest, richest and most famous names are actually quite vulnerable individuals. Because maybe 99% of people always tell them what they think they want to hear, they appreciate a bit of straight talking even if they don't always like it. I'm not saying you have to be brutal. It's not about being nasty or nice. But there's a way of dealing with people based on respect."
It is not only early results that suggest Rodgers may be on to something. The way Martin Skrtel played against Manchester United, after being dropped in favour of Kolo Touré then brought back from the cold as injury cover, suggested he, too, has bought into the competitive ethos the manager is trying to instil.
"I want fierce competition for places, I don't want a situation where players are comfortable," he says. "Martin never moaned once about being left out. He just made sure he was ready when the chance came and he was absolutely brilliant. That is exactly the attitude I am looking for."
Brendan Rodgers is breeding hunger at Liverpool with food for thought
The manager says frank chats have led to amicable departures or to the development of attitudes he seeks at Anfield
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The Observer, Saturday 14 September 2013 18.00 EDT
Brendan Rodgers talks to Steven Gerrard at Liverpool training in the build-up to the trip to Swansea. Photograph: Andrew Powell/Liverpool FC via Getty Images
Brendan Rodgers returns to Swansea City on Monday evening, not for the first time as Liverpool manager but the first time as manager of the month, with a side at the top of the table at the start of the weekend and the Premier League's only 100% record.
"We've made a good start," he says. "But it is only a start. It is important to maintain the level we have set for ourselves and no one here is getting over-excited this early. I believe we can still play better and of course you don't need to tell me that you never get an easy game at the Liberty Stadium."
Waiting to meet Liverpool in south Wales will be Jonjo Shelvey, formerly of Anfield, a player who decided to take Rodgers' advice when he realised his opportunities on Merseyside would be limited. "Jonjo himself will tell you what happened," Rodgers says. "He wanted to know where he stood, so I told him. I said: 'Where you are at the moment is behind the captain of Liverpool and England, who plays in your position. So you can stay and pick up knowledge and experience but probably not play in too many games for the next couple of years or you can find a new club and play week in week out. Several clubs have expressed an interest in taking you but the one I would recommend is Swansea.'"
Shelvey listened, as did Pepe Reina when Rodgers told him he wanted more competition for the goalkeeper's shirt. "Pepe is a lovely guy and a very good goalkeeper but I didn't think he was being pushed hard enough," the Liverpool manager explains. "So I took him out for dinner and told him that. I explained that my whole coaching philosophy is based on hunger and competition and I didn't want anyone getting too comfortable.
"He had been at the club a number of years and done well but I didn't do anything underhand. I looked him in the eye and told him I was thinking of bringing in another goalkeeper good enough to be No1. He accepted that at the time. When he decided he wanted to go on loan to Napoli I never got the two No1s I had wanted but I still ended up with a good goalkeeper. Simon Mignolet had the hunger, he wanted to come here and prove himself and that's what I wanted to see. I was comfortable enough with the situation to let Pepe go. Looking at it from his position, it is a World Cup season and he needs to be on view."
Although a restaurant seems the perfect venue to debate whether or not a player is sufficiently hungry, Rodgers does not make a habit of booking tables to deliver bad news, otherwise he would quickly find himself dining alone. He simply likes to be up front and available for discussion when he has something to say. "One thing I'll always do with players is let them know what I am thinking to their face," he says.
"I won't wait six months to tell them what I know now. There's no point bluffing because I believe players appreciate honesty. One of the things I've learned in all my years of coaching is that not only are players human beings like the rest of us but that some of the biggest, richest and most famous names are actually quite vulnerable individuals. Because maybe 99% of people always tell them what they think they want to hear, they appreciate a bit of straight talking even if they don't always like it. I'm not saying you have to be brutal. It's not about being nasty or nice. But there's a way of dealing with people based on respect."
It is not only early results that suggest Rodgers may be on to something. The way Martin Skrtel played against Manchester United, after being dropped in favour of Kolo Touré then brought back from the cold as injury cover, suggested he, too, has bought into the competitive ethos the manager is trying to instil.
"I want fierce competition for places, I don't want a situation where players are comfortable," he says. "Martin never moaned once about being left out. He just made sure he was ready when the chance came and he was absolutely brilliant. That is exactly the attitude I am looking for."
Shelvey made 2 horrible mistakes, but he also completely orchestrated Swansea's play tonight. If he can cut out those kinds of errors, he can be an excellent player.
he had big cahunas coming out 2nd half head up and setting up a goal. slightly disappointed by his reaction to the goal, in light of what he said you would have expected him to be a bit more muted.
Well he wanted to prove a point today and I'm not sure that he did.
As expected he took centre stage but I wonder if he'll be amped like this for other games.
I'm not gonna make a great deal out of this performance. He'll become a decent midfielder but I doubt that he'll ever be a top 4 midfielder.
As expected he took centre stage but I wonder if he'll be amped like this for other games.
I'm not gonna make a great deal out of this performance. He'll become a decent midfielder but I doubt that he'll ever be a top 4 midfielder.
missed that, nice to hear.
Why should he have been more muted? He plays for Swansea now.
by his own admission he apologised. he knew he has been disrespectful after all the love he had doted on us when he was a player. its normal practice in football for players coming back to a club they love and respect to continue to be respectful after scoring a goal.
Are there really people out there who genuinely feel disrespected if a former player celebrates scoring a goal against us?
The fact that Shelvey didn't hide but still wanted the ball more than any player on the field today even after those mistakes is pretty amazing. Oddly perhaps, I'd love him back after that game.
I really don't see the problem with him celebrating. We got shut of him.
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