I know where you're coming from Keni, but at the same time, he's signed a few young uns at lower fees in the hope of developing them, rather than demanding a 100mill war chest.
Klopp has played several players consistently out of position historically....The difference between Rodgers/Dalglish and Klopp is that Klopp will never sign a player and then play him out of position. When he sign a player then he will do to strenghten the team and use the strenghts of that player. Klopp would never for example even consider to play Markovic as a wingback.
The above is a very big difference.
How is Mane 'more of the same of what your already have'?But all of that development investment is pointless if you then go and spunk over the odds for more of the same of what you already have. I like Mane, but £30m is going over Benteke, Carroll, Downing etc territory. What's the point in trying to save the club money by investing in youth at minimal fees, to then go and blow a wad aimlessly on a player of the ilk you could get from Europe for half the fee? I don't get it.
Kenny and Brendan both got lambasted forever for this sort of strategy, with people blaming the shite Premiership based signings on them, and crediting the committee with any overseas signing that was a success. The only constant under the last three managers is overpaid for Premiership players. The three can't coincidentally all be that fucking stupid.
How is Mane 'more of the same of what your already have'?
Who's comparable? Ibe? Ojo?
I'm sorry but I don't trust Klopp or anyone else. We've been burned too many times and if we've learned anything it's that no one is infallible.
Unfortunately our recent history of signing players for exhorbitant fees from the Premiership is rather chequered (to be kind) and it's more for that reason that the prospect of this deal feels uninspiring than anything to do with Mane himself.
It's also the reason that should this deal go through there will be a lot of pressure from the get go for him to succeed and quickly.
Let's disregard the Brexit vote and it's detrimental affect on the £ for the moment.I don't mean in style. I mean in standard, output etc. I thought that was obvious. Is he worth £30m?
Unless I'm mistaken his output is better than our midfielders.I don't mean in style. I mean in standard, output etc. I thought that was obvious. Is he worth £30m?
3 weeks into the window and already with the don't trust Klopp? He's made 3 bargain signings already....2 who already will improve our defence Matip and Karius and 1 hot prospect in Grujic....a powerhouse CM we've been lacking since masch/alonso.
We're not in europe...players like Gotze arn't coming, get over yourself. Mane is a quality player.
Last season the biggest issue was our inconsistency. We could play like world beaters when we felt like it and play like chumps the next game. The big reason for that in addition to our defense is the inconsistency in our attacking trio - Coutinho, Firmino, and Lallana - in scoring goals or in dominating games.
Mane is a highly inconsistent player. See stats which I posted in other threads(He did not score in the PL between October 26 and March third week of last season; In the season before that he scored 6 out of 10 goals in 4 games - a hatrick against Aston Villa and 3 goals in 3 games between December 26 and December 31). My biggest fear is that he is only contribute to that uncertainty in performance.
When we invest higher than 30 million, we need players who can elevate us to the next level by being more consistent. Of course such players who are at the top of their game will be difficult to purchase because of us not being Europe. That is where I thought maybe some scouting for under the radar players and targetting youth players who can start contributing immediately with the potential to be a superstar in 2-3 years can help (For example Joe Gomez looked raw but a player worthy of starting for us from day one).
Mane looks like a player who will help us consolidate 6-8 again and not the type who will help us elevate to the next level. Add a young Gerrard, Owen, Fowler, Torres, Suarez to our and we will be in top 4. Add more of them and we will challenge for the league.
"Grujic....a powerhouse CM we've been lacking since masch/alonso." Intriguing signing yes but let us hold off on the Masch/Alonso comparisons shall we.
It really is not about trusting or not trusting Klopp. Houllier, Rafa, King Kenny, Brendan were not bad managers tactically. Given the right set of players they are capable of challenging at the highest level. Where they failed was not being able to use the moneys to create a top quality squad and a big part of that was the transfers. When we see such a sizable chunk being invested, there is a fear of "New boss, meet the old boss" being realized.
This exactly. The difference being the positions Klopp plays players isn't monumentally stupid.Klopp has played several players consistently out of position historically....
Brendan was a bad manager tactically. He never had a plan B. Not in a single game he showed that he had a plan B that worked. 100% attack was the only plan he had. He didn't show in a single game that we could close a game. If we took the lead we had to continue to attack because Rodgers didn't had a clue how to defend, not a clue.
When the teams found him out he had no answers. He couldn't change. He never tried to use our oppositions weaknesses because he didn't have a clue how to do it. When the opposition played a very slow team he didn't had a clue how to use that weakness against them. Mourinho found him out big time for example. We didn't need to win and Chelsea wasn't interested in playing attacking football but he only had one plan, plan A. 100% attack instead of playing for a draw.
3 weeks into the window and already with the don't trust Klopp? He's made 3 bargain signings already....2 who already will improve our defence Matip and Karius and 1 hot prospect in Grujic....a powerhouse CM we've been lacking since masch/alonso.
We're not in europe...players like Gotze arn't coming, get over yourself. Mane is a quality player.
Mane is a highly inconsistent player. See stats which I posted in other threads(He did not score in the PL between October 26 and March third week of last season; In the season before that he scored 6 out of 10 goals in 4 games - a hatrick against Aston Villa and 3 goals in 3 games between December 26 and December 31). My biggest fear is that he is only contribute to that uncertainty in performance.
3 weeks into the window and already with the don't trust Klopp? He's made 3 bargain signings already....2 who already will improve our defence Matip and Karius and 1 hot prospect in Grujic....a powerhouse CM we've been lacking since masch/alonso.
We're not in europe...players like Gotze arn't coming, get over yourself. Mane is a quality player.
I'm still not sure if I'm for or against this signing, but I will say that unlike Lallana, I imagine Mane will improve here as the type of player he is will benefit more from playing around better players, it's hardly like Southampton base their team around him like they did with Lallana.
As much as I want to agree, It's a bit early to be saying that..Big difference in quality between Rodgers and Klopp when it comes to the ability of building a team though. A winning team.
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