A loan is silly -
Rafa wants to sign Reina
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We've had an offer
We've had an offer
Didn't seem like an offer for Reina would make any difference the way Rodgers was talking about it.
Why? We've spent fuck all up to now.
This is from soccernet.com's article ... If the wages issue is true for Cesar, I can't see Reina going there as I'd really be hard pressed to believe that Cesar is on a higher per week salary than him!
I think Reina and the club thought he'd go to Barca this year. We bought his replacement, Valdes changed his mind, Pepe has a deal in place with Barca for next season and we've agreed to a loan deal to get his wages off the books for the season. If that's the case I have no problem with it.
Spock-like logic.
Pretty much.
Should we be paying anything at all??
Bascombe said this last week too, makes sense that's what happened.
Can't blame the club for wanting to be proactive in getting his replacement in first.
Can't blame the club for wanting to be proactive in getting his replacement in first.
We were paid 2mil to loan Carroll to WH. I'd say there is a loan fee involved. Hopefully a permanent transfer can be trashed out.
Ray Clemence was before my time, and Brucie throwing games rules him out of the debate for me
How ?
Taking a short term 'loss' to show potential investors we've got lower operating costs going forward.
we want to be attacting billionaire investors, would they really care about a cuople of million operating costs?
Personally I would prefer the club to be operated on sound commercial lines rather than at the whim of some oil-rich Middle-Eastern potentate with bottomless pockets. The latter scenario will presumably become unviable when the new FIFA commercial rules come into effect.
I don't know why people think it's an issue, the biggest issue in recent years has been poor spending, not a lack of funds, we have spent enough over the last couple of years to compete and are still one of the league's consistent big spenders, the rest is pipe dream bollocks, it might have bought Chelsea and City the odd trophy. but since the turn of the century, we're still the second most successful English club in terms of silverware won. We've been our own worst enemies when it's come to capitalising on sound financial backing and a strong squad to make a go of it in the league. It's quite endearing watching this "project".
this all sounds very nice, but in reality the spending of psg, chelsea, manure, man city is moving to another level - instead of aiming for the title, at this rate, our achievement every year will be to qualify for europe, not necessarily the champs league!
The problem with the conspiracy theory is that shifting Reina for a younger goalkeeper makes perfect sense in anyone's book. It's not like its some off the wall move that can only be explained by FSG wanting to sell the club.
And the lowering costs thing, well it's not long since our wage bill was 70% of turnover. We do still have to rid ourselves of bad contracts as we add players. I think we're due some accounts soon, and I won't be surprised if the lowering costs line for a sale is blown out of the water when we see them. Our wage bill is still probably going to be 120m plus. So not your typical gut a bloated company and sell on a leaner version of it scenario.
The contact with a inner Circle Sports took place quite a while ago (more than a year?) and correct me if I'm wrong but the whole notion we're being sold is based on that snippet. And maybe some stories about Henry being broke.
The reality is that contact took place at a time when we were still considering a new stadium, and were looking to finance it via a naming rights deal plus a new minority investor. And the new stadium isn't happening now.
Keane, Carroll, Downing, Aquilani... that's £95m right there that could have been spent on quality and put us right in the mix (that's without mentioning a whole load of other questionable transfers), United haven't spent heavily in recent years, the occasional marquee signing aside, they haven't gone above and beyond what we do for a while, the "another level" comment is rubbish, City & Chelsea have both spent heavily for years, it's nothing new and it's not really going into new territory.
Well we all have our own idea of what we would like for the club, but speaking for myself I would not like our club to become one of those artificial creations like Chelsea, PSG or Man City. United have of course been run on a commercial basis by the Glasers and that hasn't seemed to hold them back. As Mark1975 has said, our problem hasn't been lack of funds so much as squandering them on the wrong players.
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