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Pre Match Pre Match - PSG (A) - Weds 20:00

No VAR can get involved for any red card offence. Only yellows they can't.
I toddled over to IFAB to have look. I think this incident falls through the cracks.


Yes, they can get involved for DGOSO

c. Direct red cards (not second yellow card/caution)

  • DOGSO (especially position of offence and positions of other players)
Which is why van Dijk was sent off vs Newcastle.

However, they are bounded by clear and obvious.

The referee`s original decision will not be changed unless there was a ‘clear and obvious error’ (this includes any decision made by the referee based on information from another match official e.g. offside).

If the decision for no foul wasn’t clear and obvious error there was no denying a clear and obvious goal scoring it.
 
Best team we’ve played this season, by far.
Poor first half but a better 2nd half. All in all a smash and grab of the jammyest order.

For all their shots and chances they only racked up 1,87 xG. Thought it would be worse.
 
Best team we’ve played this season, by far.
Poor first half but a better 2nd half. All in all a smash and grab of the jammyest order.

For all their shots and chances they only racked up 1,87 xG. Thought it would be worse.

See this is why I don't like xg. They had a lot of low percentage chances, but they were all perfectly struck and beautifully placed. Thankfully Ali is the best in the world.

Any other keeper in world football and we lose that by 2 or more
 
SO I only saw the highlight reel. It seemed (incorrectly) like we had one chance all game. The goal.

I saw Trent get fleeced just the once, but my God they had some amount of chances. And Alison - wow.

We've used up our jammy quotient for the tournament for now - that VAR goal plus several saves. I would be concerned about their attacking fluency for the second leg. They're good for 1-2 goals at Anfield, when we are a little more open.

The second leg could go either way (t's also a game of two legs).
Yeah they have a lot of good dribblers but couldn't finish. I think we need to keep better possession in the second leg, I don't like the idea of having to do a repeat of that again at Anfield.
 
I still want Nunez sold, but he came on and made a positive impact, as he should.

Sure they were tired, but so was our defence, and he made more of an impact that their subs.

He done so many things we usually critique him for:

1) Got back onside from the long ball
2) Fought hard and won the ball/second ball
3) Actually controlled the ball
4) Instead of have a brainless blocked shot, got his head up and saw Harvey
5) Played a perfectly weighted ball into his run and not behind him

Usually Nunez would fuck up in any of 1 of these 5 areas. But today he delivered.
I also noticed MacAllister’s contribution for the goal – even though he didn’t touch the ball, he was in position to receive Darwin’s pass and kept about 4 PSG defenders away from the real danger that was Harvey. To gamble on running all the way into the center-forward position late in the game when we were under the cosh all game takes cojones and intelligence.
 
Are we the cunts we’ve accused Madrid of being 😀

Ha ha. What a smash and grab.

Jammy cunts and I don’t see us progressing if we play like that again. They should have had a hatful.
 
Best team we’ve played this season, by far.
Poor first half but a better 2nd half. All in all a smash and grab of the jammyest order.

For all their shots and chances they only racked up 1,87 xG. Thought it would be worse.
Hang on - I saw a stat saying Ali's saves alone were worth 2.45!
 
Not really. They took a lot of long shots that usually aren't a big chance in terms of scoring but they were as Fabio said really well struck and placed.

Two players I would have loved us to sign are Kvara and Desire Doue. Both were fantastic. We missed the boat when Kvara moved in January.
 
Not really. They took a lot of long shots that usually aren't a big chance in terms of scoring but they were as Fabio said really well struck and placed.

Two players I would have loved us to sign are Kvara and Desire Doue. Both were fantastic. We missed the boat when Kvara moved in January.
Doué I'll admit I've never heard of until this season. Kvara though could be the next global superstar. He's ridiculous
 
Not really. They took a lot of long shots that usually aren't a big chance in terms of scoring but they were as Fabio said really well struck and placed.

Two players I would have loved us to sign are Kvara and Desire Doue. Both were fantastic. We missed the boat when Kvara moved in January.

Yeah, Kvara was a snip at £60m - I get that we’re covered in those positions, but we were covered at keeper as well when we signed Marma.

Pity - we’ll have to wait for Qatar to pull out of funding PSG for him to become available.
 
Yeah, Kvara was a snip at £60m - I get that we’re covered in those positions, but we were covered at keeper as well when we signed Marma.

Pity - we’ll have to wait for Qatar to pull out of funding PSG for him to become available.
Thing is, are we covered?

Nunez on his way, likely Diaz and Jota if offers come in, Salah aging with no real backup plan.

This was prime real estate going for fuck all (in today's game). You'd have to think he had his heart set on Paris tbh.
 
Thing is, are we covered?

Nunez on his way, likely Diaz and Jota if offers come in, Salah aging with no real backup plan.

This was prime real estate going for fuck all (in today's game). You'd have to think he had his heart set on Paris tbh.

Well, I guess you could say we’re covered for now because Nunez, Diaz & Jota are all here and only offer that seems to have come in so far was for Donkey - and I’m not sure about Kvara through the middle.

Long term, he could have been Salah’s successor on the right - but maybe Mo stays.

Feels like he’d not negotiated with Gakpo on the left… and I mean by that, Kvara would be the starter with Gakpo dropping to backup.

Dunno, there’s lots of ifs and buts - still though, he does look genuinely fucking great and the sort of player that leads you a position of dominance for a few years.
 
Thing is, are we covered?

Nunez on his way, likely Diaz and Jota if offers come in, Salah aging with no real backup plan.

This was prime real estate going for fuck all (in today's game). You'd have to think he had his heart set on Paris tbh.

Yeah, sounds like he had his heart set on Paris in all honesty. Selling Diaz and signing Kvara would have been great business in January.
 
Wasn't there something about a mega signing on bonus and big wages?

Great buy for them though can you achieve super star status in Ligue 1? Questionable unless they can really put together a couple of CL wins.

This PSG team look capable but still think they look susceptible defensively... we were fucking dreadful and still looked like we could do something on the break.
 
Look at the defender that was over by Harvey, where he starts and then head in hands when the ball crosses the line.
Yeah, he lost Harvey in that move. Just noticed how close Darwin was to offside there. He was a good half yard offside half a second before Ali strikes it, but he is just onside from the movement of the defender by the time the ball is kicked. Luck or judgement...?
 
Yeah, he lost Harvey in that move. Just noticed how close Darwin was to offside there. He was a good half yard offside half a second before Ali strikes it, but he is just onside from the movement of the defender by the time the ball is kicked. Luck or judgement...?

I think we all know the answer to that...
 
Doué I'll admit I've never heard of until this season. Kvara though could be the next global superstar. He's ridiculous
The one criticism I have of Kvara is that he fades badly in games. I watched all 3 Georgia games in the Euros last summer and he was far more effective in the first half of games. He looked very tired after 60 minutes………and it was similar last night. To be world class he will have to reproduce his first half form in latter stages of games.
 

Cinematic, triumphant, unbeatable: Alisson seizes his moment for Liverpool | Liverpool | The Guardian​

Liverpool are fluid. Liverpool are polyvalent. Liverpool press and sit, then strike like jet fighters. Maybe they really are, as Luis Enrique enthused before this game, “a perfect team”. But sometimes, well, sometimes you just need a really good goalkeeper too.

Alisson wasn’t just good here in the conventional sense, bullocking around his area like a giant, yolk-coloured blur making game-saving blocks and dives. He was, as Liverpool defended desperately at times, triumphantly good. This was goalkeeping as an act of performance, goalkeeping as counter-aggression. You really believe you’re going to win this? How much, would you say?

Liverpool’s 1-0 win in Paris will attract the usual labels, most of them tinged with some element of villainy: a heist, a smash-and-grab, a perfectly executed moped-robbery of a first leg away win. But it was also a consequence of having a very, very good player in the key position on the pitch. And not just good, but one of the deep spirit animals of this team, a footballer who just seemed to recognise early on here that, yep, this one was for him, an Alisson day.

On the face of it, the key moment was the move that saw Liverpool win this game, the only goal finished brilliantly by Harvey Elliott with three minutes left. But the moment it became clear they weren’t going to lose came seven minutes earlier. And it was an Alisson moment, the most cinematic of his eight saves on the night.

Désiré Doué had come on a few minutes before. He took the ball on the left, cut inside and bent a shot that seemed to be already in the corner, bulging the net, confirming the narrative of all that PSG pressure. At which point that familiar lemon-yellow shape appeared in shot once again, hurling itself across the goalline, hanging strangely in the Paris air, thrusting an arm up mid-flight and diverting the ball over the crossbar with a slap of the palm.

That was PSG’s 26th shot. Liverpool scored the only goal with their second a few minutes later. It was beautifully executed. And of course even this came from an Allison moment, a long pass sent in a howling arc towards one of Arne Slot’s late subs, Darwin Núñez.

This was also a good moment for Núñez, and for the manager’s happy habit of affecting games late on. First Núñez claimed the ball, bouncing Marquinhos out of the way, hooves rearing, before finding Elliott’s run down the right with a nicely weighted pass.

Alisson stretches to make a save against PSG


Even as Elliott approached the ball you could feel the angles lining up, hips opening in his final strides as he met the ball and sent it back into the far corner, low enough and hard enough to evade a slightly weak palm from Gianluigi Donnarumma.

At which point the air just seemed to leave the stadium. A game PSG had been winning, and winning in complex ways, taking the ball, closing the space down, finding ways to turn Liverpool’s defence, had disappeared like smoke.

Football is the most outcome-based of activities. Entire methods, storylines, acts of failure and glory are sent scrolling back out of some marginal details that really could go either way in the moment. This is its beauty, the reason why the argument is never settled, the game never done no matter how much money or data or peeled-eyeball attention is thrown at it.

It is in its own way reassuring in its refusal to be processed or controlled, a story of endless human variables. And sometimes you really do just need a good goalkeeper, the bit that makes all the other bits make sense.

Paris had been drenched in soft yellow light all day, even the ragged concrete fringes around the Parc des Princes blooming with that lovely, hammy old Parisian spring. Both managers were out early on at the edge of their technical area, Luis Enrique in hoodie and urban cape, looking like a retired seven-times world skateboarding champion.

His team were aggressive from the early moments, Khvicha Kvaratskhelia starting on the right. And for the opening hour here Liverpool just couldn’t contain him, their defence sliced open repeatedly by the Georgian, making his ninth appearance since a January transfer from Napoli.

This is the new PSG, a move away from the days of stars and bars, of Neymar riding a snow leopard around his personal sub-basement disco dressed in a solid gold bowler hat. But they can still afford to spend more than €50m on a bravura January signing.

As Vitinha and João Neves controlled the midfield, Kvaratskhelia began to shine. He is one of those players who just seems to bend the game to his will. He can stop instantly on the ball like a squirrel on a branch, anchored to the grass more effectively than anyone else around him.

PSG really could have scored three in that first half, Kvaratskhelia a constant sniping menace, socks down, shorts high, hair rumpled maverick-style, able to spring and snap to one side with a fierce fast-twitch energy.

The second half was tighter. Liverpool came out ready to grind and graft. Alisson seemed to feel it as the game went on, a footballer in one of those rare moments of invincibility. This was his night, and a huge step towards the season’s end.
 
Well, I guess you could say we’re covered for now because Nunez, Diaz & Jota are all here and only offer that seems to have come in so far was for Donkey - and I’m not sure about Kvara through the middle.

Long term, he could have been Salah’s successor on the right - but maybe Mo stays.

Feels like he’d not negotiated with Gakpo on the left… and I mean by that, Kvara would be the starter with Gakpo dropping to backup.

Dunno, there’s lots of ifs and buts - still though, he does look genuinely fucking great and the sort of player that leads you a position of dominance for a few years.
Think thats my biggest gripe with our transfer policy. A majority of it is either promising youth (future planning for 6 years ahead) or for the right now. There needs to be a middle ground. Like, lets say Salah signs, and next year he doesn't replicate this season; we've no depth there. We should be signing someone to compete with Salah, to force him to raise his game. I don't mind salah getting another bumper contract, as long as we're actively planning. The only time i feel we've done that is with Mamardashvilli, but even then Ali shows little sign of slowing
 
Think thats my biggest gripe with our transfer policy. A majority of it is either promising youth (future planning for 6 years ahead) or for the right now. There needs to be a middle ground. Like, lets say Salah signs, and next year he doesn't replicate this season; we've no depth there. We should be signing someone to compete with Salah, to force him to raise his game. I don't mind salah getting another bumper contract, as long as we're actively planning. The only time i feel we've done that is with Mamardashvilli, but even then Ali shows little sign of slowing
Mad wee Ben.
 
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