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[quote author=Hansern link=topic=43070.msg1229307#msg1229307 date=1291657786]
Beardsley to take over and be temporary manager against us.
Pardew is the favourite to get the job permanent.
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it'd be absolutely fucking insane to replace a promising young manager doing a good job with a no-mark like alan pardew, which obviously means that's what'll happen.
Beardsley to take over and be temporary manager against us.
Pardew is the favourite to get the job permanent.
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it'd be absolutely fucking insane to replace a promising young manager doing a good job with a no-mark like alan pardew, which obviously means that's what'll happen.
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=43070.msg1229310#msg1229310 date=1291658440]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=43070.msg1229307#msg1229307 date=1291657786]
Beardsley to take over and be temporary manager against us.
Pardew is the favourite to get the job permanent.
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it'd be absolutely fucking insane to replace a promising young manager doing a good job with a no-mark like alan pardew, which obviously means that's what'll happen.
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Regardless of ability, that'd be the "promising young manager" who is actually older than Pardew, right?
Im surprised at the amount of, errrrr, surprise. It was obvious from the off that Hughton was the i) cheap, and ii) last choice, and then he fucked the board over by actually doing quite well.
Theyve been itching for a reason to let him go with the feeling being (since he lost Calderwood) that hes a first team coach who is out of his depth as a manager, and who perversely has lost his first team coach who was keeping it all together.
Beating your rivals by a cricket score, and whacking a lacklustre Villa probably appeases the fans, but losing to relegation candidates and getting thumped by Bolton does point to a fundamental lack of consistency in their perfromances.
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=43070.msg1229307#msg1229307 date=1291657786]
Beardsley to take over and be temporary manager against us.
Pardew is the favourite to get the job permanent.
[/quote]
it'd be absolutely fucking insane to replace a promising young manager doing a good job with a no-mark like alan pardew, which obviously means that's what'll happen.
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Regardless of ability, that'd be the "promising young manager" who is actually older than Pardew, right?
Im surprised at the amount of, errrrr, surprise. It was obvious from the off that Hughton was the i) cheap, and ii) last choice, and then he fucked the board over by actually doing quite well.
Theyve been itching for a reason to let him go with the feeling being (since he lost Calderwood) that hes a first team coach who is out of his depth as a manager, and who perversely has lost his first team coach who was keeping it all together.
Beating your rivals by a cricket score, and whacking a lacklustre Villa probably appeases the fans, but losing to relegation candidates and getting thumped by Bolton does point to a fundamental lack of consistency in their perfromances.
[quote author=grjt link=topic=43070.msg1229323#msg1229323 date=1291661141]
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=43070.msg1229310#msg1229310 date=1291658440]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=43070.msg1229307#msg1229307 date=1291657786]
Beardsley to take over and be temporary manager against us.
Pardew is the favourite to get the job permanent.
[/quote]
it'd be absolutely fucking insane to replace a promising young manager doing a good job with a no-mark like alan pardew, which obviously means that's what'll happen.
[/quote]
Regardless of ability, that'd be the "promising young manager" who is actually older than Pardew, right?
Im surprised at the amount of, errrrr, surprise. It was obvious from the off that Hughton was the i) cheap, and ii) last choice, and then he fucked the board over by actually doing quite well.
Theyve been itching for a reason to let him go with the feeling being (since he lost Calderwood) that hes a first team coach who is out of his depth as a manager, and who perversely has lost his first team coach who was keeping it all together.
Beating your rivals by a cricket score, and whacking a lacklustre Villa probably appeases the fans, but losing to relegation candidates and getting thumped by Bolton does point to a fundamental lack of consistency in their perfromances.
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i never said pardew was old, i said he was a no-mark. i also think, based on the last year or so, that hughton can be reasonably described as promising, and at 51, young as well, at least for a manager. you disagree?
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=43070.msg1229310#msg1229310 date=1291658440]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=43070.msg1229307#msg1229307 date=1291657786]
Beardsley to take over and be temporary manager against us.
Pardew is the favourite to get the job permanent.
[/quote]
it'd be absolutely fucking insane to replace a promising young manager doing a good job with a no-mark like alan pardew, which obviously means that's what'll happen.
[/quote]
Regardless of ability, that'd be the "promising young manager" who is actually older than Pardew, right?
Im surprised at the amount of, errrrr, surprise. It was obvious from the off that Hughton was the i) cheap, and ii) last choice, and then he fucked the board over by actually doing quite well.
Theyve been itching for a reason to let him go with the feeling being (since he lost Calderwood) that hes a first team coach who is out of his depth as a manager, and who perversely has lost his first team coach who was keeping it all together.
Beating your rivals by a cricket score, and whacking a lacklustre Villa probably appeases the fans, but losing to relegation candidates and getting thumped by Bolton does point to a fundamental lack of consistency in their perfromances.
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i never said pardew was old, i said he was a no-mark. i also think, based on the last year or so, that hughton can be reasonably described as promising, and at 51, young as well, at least for a manager. you disagree?
The players are very upset with his sacking. Both Jonas and Kevin Nolan have been out in the media today.
It's like Grjt said though, they've been itching for a reason to sack him. Depending on who they get in, I just feel this is going to blow up in their face. In good old Newcastle fashion.
It's like Grjt said though, they've been itching for a reason to sack him. Depending on who they get in, I just feel this is going to blow up in their face. In good old Newcastle fashion.
To me the question is whether (and, if yes, to what extent) the board were entitled to expect better given what was at Hughton's disposal. I don't think they were, and I don't think either that it was just Calderwood who had been keeping things together - they'd surely be lower down in the league now if that had been the case. Whether Hughton would have been the right man for the job in the long term is moot, but at this stage in the Toon's development I think they've scored a major oggie.
It depends who they appoint as his replacement. If it's a better manager, fine, what's the problem?
I recall loads of people bleating on when Ranieri was booted out in favour of Mourinho.
'Oh, so unfair. He's done so well, how could they?'
Easily.
Of course, if they sack Hughton in order to employ the utterly useless cunt that is Alan Pardew, well. That's a different story.
I recall loads of people bleating on when Ranieri was booted out in favour of Mourinho.
'Oh, so unfair. He's done so well, how could they?'
Easily.
Of course, if they sack Hughton in order to employ the utterly useless cunt that is Alan Pardew, well. That's a different story.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=43070.msg1229332#msg1229332 date=1291661689]
To me the question is whether (and, if yes, to what extent) the board were entitled to expect better given what was at Hughton's disposal. I don't think they were, and I don't think either that it was just Calderwood who had been keeping things together - they'd surely be lower down in the league now if that had been the case. Whether Hughton would have been the right man for the job in the long term is moot, but at this stage in the Toon's development I think they've scored a major oggie.
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i just think it depends who they get in. if it's o'neill - as much as i'd hate him at LFC - then you can begin to see the logic of it, much less so if it's pardew or curbishley.
whatever though, there's no denying that it's extremely harsh on hughton and an amazingly ruthless decision by ashley.
To me the question is whether (and, if yes, to what extent) the board were entitled to expect better given what was at Hughton's disposal. I don't think they were, and I don't think either that it was just Calderwood who had been keeping things together - they'd surely be lower down in the league now if that had been the case. Whether Hughton would have been the right man for the job in the long term is moot, but at this stage in the Toon's development I think they've scored a major oggie.
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i just think it depends who they get in. if it's o'neill - as much as i'd hate him at LFC - then you can begin to see the logic of it, much less so if it's pardew or curbishley.
whatever though, there's no denying that it's extremely harsh on hughton and an amazingly ruthless decision by ashley.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=43070.msg1229305#msg1229305 date=1291657487]
How on Earth can Hughton get sacked before Budgie? Last time I checked he took a Championship side, got them promoted and they're ahead of us in the table.
Budgie took a side that came seventh and is making us look like Fulham.
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He has won more away games this season than Budgie has in the last three.
How on Earth can Hughton get sacked before Budgie? Last time I checked he took a Championship side, got them promoted and they're ahead of us in the table.
Budgie took a side that came seventh and is making us look like Fulham.
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He has won more away games this season than Budgie has in the last three.
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=43070.msg1229330#msg1229330 date=1291661531]
[quote author=grjt link=topic=43070.msg1229323#msg1229323 date=1291661141]
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=43070.msg1229310#msg1229310 date=1291658440]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=43070.msg1229307#msg1229307 date=1291657786]
Beardsley to take over and be temporary manager against us.
Pardew is the favourite to get the job permanent.
[/quote]
it'd be absolutely fucking insane to replace a promising young manager doing a good job with a no-mark like alan pardew, which obviously means that's what'll happen.
[/quote]
Regardless of ability, that'd be the "promising young manager" who is actually older than Pardew, right?
Im surprised at the amount of, errrrr, surprise. It was obvious from the off that Hughton was the i) cheap, and ii) last choice, and then he fucked the board over by actually doing quite well.
Theyve been itching for a reason to let him go with the feeling being (since he lost Calderwood) that hes a first team coach who is out of his depth as a manager, and who perversely has lost his first team coach who was keeping it all together.
Beating your rivals by a cricket score, and whacking a lacklustre Villa probably appeases the fans, but losing to relegation candidates and getting thumped by Bolton does point to a fundamental lack of consistency in their perfromances.
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i never said pardew was old, i said he was a no-mark. i also think, based on the last year or so, that hughton can be reasonably described as promising, and at 51, young as well, at least for a manager. you disagree?
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Nooooo, my point being that juxtaposing the "benefit" of one manager being "young and promising" against another manager who is actually younger is just confused.
And I believe that Hughton is almost exactly the age of the average - so in answer to your question, no, he shouldnt be considered young either.
[quote author=grjt link=topic=43070.msg1229323#msg1229323 date=1291661141]
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=43070.msg1229310#msg1229310 date=1291658440]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=43070.msg1229307#msg1229307 date=1291657786]
Beardsley to take over and be temporary manager against us.
Pardew is the favourite to get the job permanent.
[/quote]
it'd be absolutely fucking insane to replace a promising young manager doing a good job with a no-mark like alan pardew, which obviously means that's what'll happen.
[/quote]
Regardless of ability, that'd be the "promising young manager" who is actually older than Pardew, right?
Im surprised at the amount of, errrrr, surprise. It was obvious from the off that Hughton was the i) cheap, and ii) last choice, and then he fucked the board over by actually doing quite well.
Theyve been itching for a reason to let him go with the feeling being (since he lost Calderwood) that hes a first team coach who is out of his depth as a manager, and who perversely has lost his first team coach who was keeping it all together.
Beating your rivals by a cricket score, and whacking a lacklustre Villa probably appeases the fans, but losing to relegation candidates and getting thumped by Bolton does point to a fundamental lack of consistency in their perfromances.
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i never said pardew was old, i said he was a no-mark. i also think, based on the last year or so, that hughton can be reasonably described as promising, and at 51, young as well, at least for a manager. you disagree?
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Nooooo, my point being that juxtaposing the "benefit" of one manager being "young and promising" against another manager who is actually younger is just confused.
And I believe that Hughton is almost exactly the age of the average - so in answer to your question, no, he shouldnt be considered young either.
grjt: oh don't be such a pedant FFS. the meaning was clear enough: hughton> promising, early on in his career (therefore drawing on similar 'potential' card as a young manager would) beats out pardew> completely mediocre, unpromising, and showing no sign of being on an upward trajectory.
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=43070.msg1229349#msg1229349 date=1291662923]
grjt: oh don't be such a pedant FFS. the meaning was clear enough: hughton> promising, early on in his career (therefore drawing on similar 'potential' card as a young manager would) beats out pardew> completely mediocre, unpromising, and showing no sign of being on an upward trajectory.
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So not young, and by the looks of things no longer promising.
Right you are then, apart from that your original proposition is entirely correct!
grjt: oh don't be such a pedant FFS. the meaning was clear enough: hughton> promising, early on in his career (therefore drawing on similar 'potential' card as a young manager would) beats out pardew> completely mediocre, unpromising, and showing no sign of being on an upward trajectory.
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So not young, and by the looks of things no longer promising.
Right you are then, apart from that your original proposition is entirely correct!
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=43070.msg1229354#msg1229354 date=1291663270]
Chris Houghton has won more away games this season than Roy Hodgson has managed in the last 3 seasons....
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That's a shocking statistic. And not at all surprising.
Chris Houghton has won more away games this season than Roy Hodgson has managed in the last 3 seasons....
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That's a shocking statistic. And not at all surprising.
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Newcastle is a right Circus as has just been said by Gareth Southgate.
[quote author=crump link=topic=43070.msg1229297#msg1229297 date=1291655423]
The nicest thing I can say about the Newcastle board is that they're fucking clueless scum and I hope they all die before Christmas.
[/quote]Innit, fucking hopeless, clueless fucking scopers. Theyre so fucking dumb im half hoping they make an offer for Hodgson.
The nicest thing I can say about the Newcastle board is that they're fucking clueless scum and I hope they all die before Christmas.
[/quote]Innit, fucking hopeless, clueless fucking scopers. Theyre so fucking dumb im half hoping they make an offer for Hodgson.
We can only dream.
[quote author=grjt link=topic=43070.msg1229361#msg1229361 date=1291663673]
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=43070.msg1229349#msg1229349 date=1291662923]
grjt: oh don't be such a pedant FFS. the meaning was clear enough: hughton> promising, early on in his career (therefore drawing on similar 'potential' card as a young manager would) beats out pardew> completely mediocre, unpromising, and showing no sign of being on an upward trajectory.
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So not young, and by the looks of things no longer promising.
Right you are then, apart from that your original proposition is entirely correct!
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fucking thick saddo.
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=43070.msg1229349#msg1229349 date=1291662923]
grjt: oh don't be such a pedant FFS. the meaning was clear enough: hughton> promising, early on in his career (therefore drawing on similar 'potential' card as a young manager would) beats out pardew> completely mediocre, unpromising, and showing no sign of being on an upward trajectory.
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So not young, and by the looks of things no longer promising.
Right you are then, apart from that your original proposition is entirely correct!
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fucking thick saddo.
Martin Jol has just left Ajax by mutual consent.
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=43070.msg1229516#msg1229516 date=1291669037]
Yup.
That's his job then.
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4/5 apparently. Pardew was 4/7.
Yup.
That's his job then.
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4/5 apparently. Pardew was 4/7.
So do newcastle fans want ashley dead again?
Will jol be paraded through the streets of newcastle as if they've won the european cup.
Newcastle can fuck off. The best they can manage is 'claim' Bobby Robson as their own. A man who rejected them as a player and did far more as a manager at Ipswich (a club who seemed forgotten when he died). Fuck off.
Will jol be paraded through the streets of newcastle as if they've won the european cup.
Newcastle can fuck off. The best they can manage is 'claim' Bobby Robson as their own. A man who rejected them as a player and did far more as a manager at Ipswich (a club who seemed forgotten when he died). Fuck off.
They're booking Jim White for the press conference and presentation as we speak.
Haha I completely forgot she existed.
I'd like to channel through Donna Air.
And by that I mean fuck her bandy and spaff all over her face
And by that I mean fuck her bandy and spaff all over her face
The older sister was better. I forget her name.
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The older sister was better. I forget her name.
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First name Hot?
The older sister was better. I forget her name.
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First name Hot?
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