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So rumors are still there that we're flogging him off to Roma.

What are people's thoughts here?

He struggled defensively in many games - but it's tough to tell if that was because it's our defense, or because he's shite.

Are we happy selling him and going with Gomez/Enrique & Flanno when he returns?
 
He remains a bit of an enigma to me. I look at him and think he COULD be very good if he's coached well and he listens and learns, but I didn't see much evidence last season of the latter. If anything the most obviously appealing aspect of his early performances - his refreshing positivity when going forward - seemed to fade somewhat as the season progressed.
 
The thing is, he hasn't improved even a tiny bit defensively, has he? As I implied, I don't dislike him, but he looks worse than a young Stephen Warnock in terms of positional sense. He's young, got decent pace, decent build, good stamina, some attacking promise - he's not hopeless by any means but he needs to really push on now and work on key areas of his game.
 
Arsed either way. Gomez and Flanno look better than him, and Clyne is probably better on the left too.
 
his refreshing positivity when going forward - seemed to fade somewhat as the season progressed.


It's a tricky season to judge a young player on because it was such a mess.

Moreno seems to have the raw attributes to succeed but he's clearly a project. Is there the will (or perhaps more importantly the ability) to manage that?

This is the problem with bringing in youngsters at Liverpool as opposed to somewhere like Sevilla. The competition in the league is fierce and the expectations are high so we can't really afford to be developing youngsters who are still pretty raw.

Markovic is in a similar situation only his is much worse because there is way more competition and expectations of an attacker are much much higher.
 
This Gomez lad already looks more composed, I think Moreno's going to have his work cut out getting into the team. Hopefully the competition will spur him on.
 
He remains a bit of an enigma to me. I look at him and think he COULD be very good if he's coached well and he listens and learns, but I didn't see much evidence last season of the latter. If anything the most obviously appealing aspect of his early performances - his refreshing positivity when going forward - seemed to fade somewhat as the season progressed.

I think that was early in the season though, teams seemed to get wise to him very quick, particularly the fact he's so obviously one footed. That mistake again City seemed to completely take the wind out of his sails, and you couldn't really blame that on poor defensive coaching or a poor defensive unit, the ball was there to be smashed clear with obvious danger around him, and he fucked it up. You could argue that it's maybe symptomatic of our tendency to piss around at the back, but I don't see Can or Skrtel having too many concerns about smashing it when they need to, and they're arguably both a bit more cultured than Sakho who seems to think he can take the World on.
 
I'm worried with how much faith people are placing in Flanagan and Gomez after short (very short in Gomez's case) stints in the first team.

I'd keep Moreno as I think he has potential.
 
He was woeful defensively and teams targeted him to great effect.

I can't see that suddenly transforming so I think we should cut our losses.
 
Gomez has played a couple of pre season friendlies against some fucking Aussie no marks and every cunt is like HES LIKE AMAZING PLAY HIM EVERY GAME.
Relax the fuck.

As for Moreno. He needs coaching. Weve brought new coaches in. Lets give it all a chance.

Moreno would have looked turd against those Aussie no marks.
 
The only good thing he's done in his career is that goal against Spurs. Risse used to do that ten times a season.
 
We had Hyppia, Henchoz, Babbel and Carragher at the back then Skulf not this bunch of fucking scopers.
 
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