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There was as much contact on Johnson on Valencia as there was from Evans(?) on Suarez. FACT!
No argument there sir.
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BREAKING: ITV have chosen to televise the FA Cup Fourth Round tie between Oldham and Liverpool on Sunday 27th January (KO 4pm)
BREAKING: ITV have chosen to televise the FA Cup Fourth Round tie between Oldham and Liverpool on Sunday 27th January (KO 4pm)
Oh, good. More top notch commentary for us.
TAKE THAT BACK LTW.....
They'd show all our games then?
Walked into that one. I mean bananaskinagainstlowerleagueorshiteuroopposition.
Tsk.
Sorry.
Oh ffs. I hate being on terrestrial telly. They actually manage to be worse than sky.
Stop bloody whining !
Stop flip flopping!!
Mansfield chief: Suarez embarrassed Reds
January 8, 2013
Mansfield Town owner John Radford has said Liverpool should be embarrassed by the
'gloating' behaviour of their 'cheating' striker Luis Suarez.
AssociatedLuis Suarez controls the ball with his hand before scoring what proved to be Liverpool's winner at Mansfield
Radford was left aggrieved after seeing his non-league side knocked out of the FA Cup in the third round by the Reds, with Suarez scoring the decisive goal in a 2-1 win after clearly using his hand to control the ball before driving home - an infringement the referee failed to spot.
Radford's wife Carolyn, the club's chief executive, said in the immediate aftermath of the match that a replay had "been stolen from us" by poor officiating, but the owner went even further, describing Suarez's celebration - where he kissed his wrist, his usual celebration that is intended as a tribute to his daughter - as unacceptable 'gloating'.
"I'm going to be biased but I'm watching a Premiership referee, a game between a Conference side and a Premiership side, and some of the decisions were hurtful," Radford is quoted as saying in The Guardian.
"When you get a professional player like Suarez celebrating a deliberate foul then it hurts. Of course it does."
He added: "Of course he was [gloating]. It was: 'Hang on, I can get away with this'."
Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers defended his player following the game, but Radford was insistent that everyone involved with the Merseyside club should be "embarrassed" by the incident.
"You know, if one of my players had done that I'd be embarrassed," he added. "I was looking for a fair and true competition and that was one incident in the game that made me feel... Well, for me as Mansfield Town chairman - local club, local boy, born and bred - it's not business, I'm here for the passion against Liverpool, where it's all about business, and that was a killer.
"It was a killer that a professional would do that sort of thing to a non-league team."
He continued: "To be honest, the Liverpool directors felt embarrassed. I would have been absolutely embarrassed and the manager should be embarrassed."
Despite his strident words, Radford claimed that the hardest thing to take was the fact that Suarez and his team-mates celebrated their 'cheating'.
"The referees have a hard time but for him to do it deliberately and then celebrate is the hardest thing to take," he said. "To cheat, OK, but to cheat and them celebrate cheating, that is the worst thing you can do. If you're going to cheat, then fair enough.
"If you're going to cheat, then cheat. But if you cheat then celebrate cheating, then there you go.
"What I will say is that, one day, cheats will never prosper."
January 8, 2013
Mansfield Town owner John Radford has said Liverpool should be embarrassed by the
'gloating' behaviour of their 'cheating' striker Luis Suarez.
Radford was left aggrieved after seeing his non-league side knocked out of the FA Cup in the third round by the Reds, with Suarez scoring the decisive goal in a 2-1 win after clearly using his hand to control the ball before driving home - an infringement the referee failed to spot.
Radford's wife Carolyn, the club's chief executive, said in the immediate aftermath of the match that a replay had "been stolen from us" by poor officiating, but the owner went even further, describing Suarez's celebration - where he kissed his wrist, his usual celebration that is intended as a tribute to his daughter - as unacceptable 'gloating'.
"I'm going to be biased but I'm watching a Premiership referee, a game between a Conference side and a Premiership side, and some of the decisions were hurtful," Radford is quoted as saying in The Guardian.
"When you get a professional player like Suarez celebrating a deliberate foul then it hurts. Of course it does."
He added: "Of course he was [gloating]. It was: 'Hang on, I can get away with this'."
Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers defended his player following the game, but Radford was insistent that everyone involved with the Merseyside club should be "embarrassed" by the incident.
"You know, if one of my players had done that I'd be embarrassed," he added. "I was looking for a fair and true competition and that was one incident in the game that made me feel... Well, for me as Mansfield Town chairman - local club, local boy, born and bred - it's not business, I'm here for the passion against Liverpool, where it's all about business, and that was a killer.
"It was a killer that a professional would do that sort of thing to a non-league team."
He continued: "To be honest, the Liverpool directors felt embarrassed. I would have been absolutely embarrassed and the manager should be embarrassed."
Despite his strident words, Radford claimed that the hardest thing to take was the fact that Suarez and his team-mates celebrated their 'cheating'.
"The referees have a hard time but for him to do it deliberately and then celebrate is the hardest thing to take," he said. "To cheat, OK, but to cheat and them celebrate cheating, that is the worst thing you can do. If you're going to cheat, then fair enough.
"If you're going to cheat, then cheat. But if you cheat then celebrate cheating, then there you go.
"What I will say is that, one day, cheats will never prosper."
Anyone who has half a brain would stop at this sentence and think to himself, what an idiotic cunt.
Ah fer fucks sake.... another fucking late night.
STOP BLOODY WHINING !
Not as embaressing as his wife's dancing ( assme it was his wife!), has she been to a football match before. That made my TV bleed...Mansfield chief: Suarez embarrassed Reds
January 8, 2013
Mansfield Town owner John Radford has said Liverpool should be embarrassed by the
'gloating' behaviour of their 'cheating' striker Luis Suarez.
AssociatedLuis Suarez controls the ball with his hand before scoring what proved to be Liverpool's winner at Mansfield
Radford was left aggrieved after seeing his non-league side knocked out of the FA Cup in the third round by the Reds, with Suarez scoring the decisive goal in a 2-1 win after clearly using his hand to control the ball before driving home - an infringement the referee failed to spot.
Radford's wife Carolyn, the club's chief executive, said in the immediate aftermath of the match that a replay had "been stolen from us" by poor officiating, but the owner went even further, describing Suarez's celebration - where he kissed his wrist, his usual celebration that is intended as a tribute to his daughter - as unacceptable 'gloating'.
"I'm going to be biased but I'm watching a Premiership referee, a game between a Conference side and a Premiership side, and some of the decisions were hurtful," Radford is quoted as saying in The Guardian.
"When you get a professional player like Suarez celebrating a deliberate foul then it hurts. Of course it does."
He added: "Of course he was [gloating]. It was: 'Hang on, I can get away with this'."
Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers defended his player following the game, but Radford was insistent that everyone involved with the Merseyside club should be "embarrassed" by the incident.
"You know, if one of my players had done that I'd be embarrassed," he added. "I was looking for a fair and true competition and that was one incident in the game that made me feel... Well, for me as Mansfield Town chairman - local club, local boy, born and bred - it's not business, I'm here for the passion against Liverpool, where it's all about business, and that was a killer.
"It was a killer that a professional would do that sort of thing to a non-league team."
He continued: "To be honest, the Liverpool directors felt embarrassed. I would have been absolutely embarrassed and the manager should be embarrassed."
Despite his strident words, Radford claimed that the hardest thing to take was the fact that Suarez and his team-mates celebrated their 'cheating'.
"The referees have a hard time but for him to do it deliberately and then celebrate is the hardest thing to take," he said. "To cheat, OK, but to cheat and them celebrate cheating, that is the worst thing you can do. If you're going to cheat, then fair enough.
"If you're going to cheat, then cheat. But if you cheat then celebrate cheating, then there you go.
"What I will say is that, one day, cheats will never prosper."
You mean the Mansfield Town's chief executive who got the job purely on the basis that she was fully qualified for it.
Ofcourse she has, what annoys me about this small time club chairmen's is that they always go on about how they are a local boy made good etc and then soon as the club comes into some sort of windfall such as a cup run or player sale, the club's finance suddenly turns bad and the money just disappears. Completely typical and some are just pure chancers such like the one at my old local club.
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there you have it , we've been well and truly put in our place . bunch of corporate wankers we are .
Ref justice: Why it wasn't Luis Suarez's call to claim the handball that has seen him unfairly criticised
9 Jan 2013 07:30
Can you name a player anywhere who would have owned up to that handball, asks Oliver Holt
Helping hand: Suarez handles the ball before scoring against Mansfield
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For quite some time, I believed that a batsman should always walk if he knew he was out.
It was the purist in me, I suppose, but the purist has receded recently and the pragmatist has taken over. I tend to agree with former England skipper Michael Atherton about it now.
When he gloved a catch to the wicketkeeper during his famous duel with Allan Donald at Trent Bridge in 1998, he refused to walk.
His rationale was that he abided by the umpire’s decision if he was given out when he shouldn’t have been.
He took the rough with the smooth. And he wasn’t out until the umpire gave him out.
That’s why I wasn’t even tempted to join in the condemnation of Liverpool’s Luis Suarez after his controversial goal against Mansfield Town on Sunday.
Sure, he handled the ball. And whether it was hand to ball or ball to hand, the goal should have been disallowed.
But it’s not up to Suarez to make that call. It’s not up to him to beg referee Andre Marriner to rule the goal out.
Show me any player anywhere who would have done that and I’ll show you a liar.
Sure, Miroslav Klose admitted he had used his hand to score for Lazio against Napoli earlier this season and the goal was disallowed.
Luis Suarez celebrates his goal
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But Klose only made the admission when the referee asked him about it.
“The referee asked me if the ball had hit my hand, I admitted it had and, for me, that was the obvious thing to do.” Klose said.
If Marriner had confronted Suarez about the goal and he had denied using his hand, that would be different. But it didn’t happen.
The referee and his assistants run the game. It’s up to them to make the call. Not Suarez.
I disagreed with ESPN’s decision to reprimand publicly their commentator Jon Champion for calling the goal ‘the work of a cheat’.
It was a gutless thing to do to someone who was expressing an honest reaction in the immediacy of the moment.
But I also disagreed with Champion’s interpretation of the incident. The goal wasn’t the work of a cheat. It was the work of someone who got lucky.
The work of a cheat? Diego Maradona’s Hand of God goal against England would fit into that category.
Hand of God: Still the most famous handball in the history of the game
Bob Thomas/Getty Images
So would Adam Le Fondre’s punched effort for Reading against Swansea on Boxing Day.
They were premeditated attempts to deceive.
Le Fondre wheeled away in celebration after his effort. Suarez was merely reacting to circumstance.
He even booted the ball into the back of the net with the downcast nonchalance of a man who seemed sure the goal would be ruled out.
As former referee Graham Poll pointed out, the referee couldn’t have changed his decision even if Suarez had asked him to.
The idea that the Uruguayan should somehow be a policeman for fairness was absurd.
Let’s not forget that a few minutes after half time, Suarez’s teammate, Joe Allen, blocked a Matt Green backheel on the line with his arm.
Marriner did not spot that handball, either. So what is Allen supposed to do? Chase after him and make a full confession?
No mate: Le Fondre is cautioned for scoring with his hand
Warren Little
That incident was not described as the work of a cheat, by the way. Nor was Allen castigated for his part in it.
The reaction to Suarez’s goal was predictable because he is such a divisive figure. It was a model of accumulated resentment finding inappropriate expression.
Some are finding it hard to forgive or forget the fact he racially abused Patrice Evra last season.
Liverpool handled the case so poorly and Suarez was so unapologetic that it is not surprising bitterness still lingers.
But the Uruguayan served an eight-match ban and faced his share of public opprobrium.
He also happens to be one of the most gifted players in the Premier League, a forward possessed of quite breathtaking skill and guile.
In the past, he deserved much of the criticism that came his way. This time, he did not deserve any of it.
9 Jan 2013 07:30
Can you name a player anywhere who would have owned up to that handball, asks Oliver Holt
Getty
For quite some time, I believed that a batsman should always walk if he knew he was out.
It was the purist in me, I suppose, but the purist has receded recently and the pragmatist has taken over. I tend to agree with former England skipper Michael Atherton about it now.
When he gloved a catch to the wicketkeeper during his famous duel with Allan Donald at Trent Bridge in 1998, he refused to walk.
His rationale was that he abided by the umpire’s decision if he was given out when he shouldn’t have been.
He took the rough with the smooth. And he wasn’t out until the umpire gave him out.
That’s why I wasn’t even tempted to join in the condemnation of Liverpool’s Luis Suarez after his controversial goal against Mansfield Town on Sunday.
Sure, he handled the ball. And whether it was hand to ball or ball to hand, the goal should have been disallowed.
But it’s not up to Suarez to make that call. It’s not up to him to beg referee Andre Marriner to rule the goal out.
Show me any player anywhere who would have done that and I’ll show you a liar.
Sure, Miroslav Klose admitted he had used his hand to score for Lazio against Napoli earlier this season and the goal was disallowed.
Getty
But Klose only made the admission when the referee asked him about it.
“The referee asked me if the ball had hit my hand, I admitted it had and, for me, that was the obvious thing to do.” Klose said.
If Marriner had confronted Suarez about the goal and he had denied using his hand, that would be different. But it didn’t happen.
The referee and his assistants run the game. It’s up to them to make the call. Not Suarez.
I disagreed with ESPN’s decision to reprimand publicly their commentator Jon Champion for calling the goal ‘the work of a cheat’.
It was a gutless thing to do to someone who was expressing an honest reaction in the immediacy of the moment.
But I also disagreed with Champion’s interpretation of the incident. The goal wasn’t the work of a cheat. It was the work of someone who got lucky.
The work of a cheat? Diego Maradona’s Hand of God goal against England would fit into that category.
Bob Thomas/Getty Images
So would Adam Le Fondre’s punched effort for Reading against Swansea on Boxing Day.
They were premeditated attempts to deceive.
Le Fondre wheeled away in celebration after his effort. Suarez was merely reacting to circumstance.
He even booted the ball into the back of the net with the downcast nonchalance of a man who seemed sure the goal would be ruled out.
As former referee Graham Poll pointed out, the referee couldn’t have changed his decision even if Suarez had asked him to.
The idea that the Uruguayan should somehow be a policeman for fairness was absurd.
Let’s not forget that a few minutes after half time, Suarez’s teammate, Joe Allen, blocked a Matt Green backheel on the line with his arm.
Marriner did not spot that handball, either. So what is Allen supposed to do? Chase after him and make a full confession?
Warren Little
That incident was not described as the work of a cheat, by the way. Nor was Allen castigated for his part in it.
The reaction to Suarez’s goal was predictable because he is such a divisive figure. It was a model of accumulated resentment finding inappropriate expression.
Some are finding it hard to forgive or forget the fact he racially abused Patrice Evra last season.
Liverpool handled the case so poorly and Suarez was so unapologetic that it is not surprising bitterness still lingers.
But the Uruguayan served an eight-match ban and faced his share of public opprobrium.
He also happens to be one of the most gifted players in the Premier League, a forward possessed of quite breathtaking skill and guile.
In the past, he deserved much of the criticism that came his way. This time, he did not deserve any of it.
Don't agree with all of that, but at least it's more balanced treatment than we usually get from Holt.
I know I'm no Binny, but I cant believe that not even one of you bastards gave a compliment for my efforts above.
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