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He has confidence, and that's the most important thing. I saw Lucas ignore SG's demands for the ball a few times tonight, which he never used to do, he would trust anyone other than himself. I'm glad he is taking the initiative more now. Shelvey is born with initiative though, he trusts himself, and that's a great sign.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=43975.msg1276775#msg1276775 date=1296684982]
[quote author=Jay link=topic=43975.msg1276758#msg1276758 date=1296684735]
Shelvey looks a confident, focused, determined fucker - good stuff.
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I hate to make this comparison, but he's not unlike Gerrard.
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The way he moves, his gait, is not too dissimilar to Gerrard.
[quote author=Jay link=topic=43975.msg1276758#msg1276758 date=1296684735]
Shelvey looks a confident, focused, determined fucker - good stuff.
[/quote]
I hate to make this comparison, but he's not unlike Gerrard.
[/quote]
The way he moves, his gait, is not too dissimilar to Gerrard.
What was the version of the bounce song being sung today?
We really need a good version of it, cos that song is awesome, and OURS. In fact the more I think about it, the more I realise that the song was actually the best thing about him.
We should re-do it mentioning the old greats
We really need a good version of it, cos that song is awesome, and OURS. In fact the more I think about it, the more I realise that the song was actually the best thing about him.
We should re-do it mentioning the old greats
[quote author=Modo link=topic=43975.msg1276790#msg1276790 date=1296685311]
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=43975.msg1276783#msg1276783 date=1296685125]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=43975.msg1276775#msg1276775 date=1296684982]
[quote author=Jay link=topic=43975.msg1276758#msg1276758 date=1296684735]
Shelvey looks a confident, focused, determined fucker - good stuff.
[/quote]
I hate to make this comparison, but he's not unlike Gerrard.
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Gerrard's hallmark is his dynamism.
I don't see that in Shelvey.
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He's no Gerrard. Shelvey is more of a Carrick.
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A Carrick? He's much closer to young Gerrard than a Carrick.
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=43975.msg1276783#msg1276783 date=1296685125]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=43975.msg1276775#msg1276775 date=1296684982]
[quote author=Jay link=topic=43975.msg1276758#msg1276758 date=1296684735]
Shelvey looks a confident, focused, determined fucker - good stuff.
[/quote]
I hate to make this comparison, but he's not unlike Gerrard.
[/quote]
Gerrard's hallmark is his dynamism.
I don't see that in Shelvey.
[/quote]
He's no Gerrard. Shelvey is more of a Carrick.
[/quote]
A Carrick? He's much closer to young Gerrard than a Carrick.
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=43975.msg1276794#msg1276794 date=1296685399]
He has confidence, and that's the most important thing. I saw Lucas ignore SG's demands for the ball a few times tonight, which he never used to do, he would trust anyone other than himself. I'm glad he is taking the initiative more now. Shelvey is born with initiative though, he trusts himself, and that's a great sign.
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There is somebody 'bigger' than Gerrard at the club now. Someone even Gerrard looks up too. Maybe Lucas used to feel intimidated and that's been taken away by the new 'main man'. Just a guess, of course.
He has confidence, and that's the most important thing. I saw Lucas ignore SG's demands for the ball a few times tonight, which he never used to do, he would trust anyone other than himself. I'm glad he is taking the initiative more now. Shelvey is born with initiative though, he trusts himself, and that's a great sign.
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There is somebody 'bigger' than Gerrard at the club now. Someone even Gerrard looks up too. Maybe Lucas used to feel intimidated and that's been taken away by the new 'main man'. Just a guess, of course.
My brother called me during the game (Man U fan).
- What kind of football are they playing? It's like 80s style. This Liverpool team can't play like that.
(ME) - Well Reina hasn't had anything to do so...
- Doesn't matter he (Dalglish) shouldn't play like that, if it was a better team than Stoke they wouldn't let you pass it around like that.
I think they're worried.
- What kind of football are they playing? It's like 80s style. This Liverpool team can't play like that.
(ME) - Well Reina hasn't had anything to do so...
- Doesn't matter he (Dalglish) shouldn't play like that, if it was a better team than Stoke they wouldn't let you pass it around like that.
I think they're worried.
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=43975.msg1276796#msg1276796 date=1296685558]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=43975.msg1276775#msg1276775 date=1296684982]
[quote author=Jay link=topic=43975.msg1276758#msg1276758 date=1296684735]
Shelvey looks a confident, focused, determined fucker - good stuff.
[/quote]
I hate to make this comparison, but he's not unlike Gerrard.
[/quote]
The way he moves, his gait, is not too dissimilar to Gerrard.
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I think it is his gait that got me thinking about it to be hoenst.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=43975.msg1276775#msg1276775 date=1296684982]
[quote author=Jay link=topic=43975.msg1276758#msg1276758 date=1296684735]
Shelvey looks a confident, focused, determined fucker - good stuff.
[/quote]
I hate to make this comparison, but he's not unlike Gerrard.
[/quote]
The way he moves, his gait, is not too dissimilar to Gerrard.
[/quote]
I think it is his gait that got me thinking about it to be hoenst.
[quote author=Modo link=topic=43975.msg1276790#msg1276790 date=1296685311]
Shelvey is more of a Carrick.
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He is NOTHING AT ALL like Carrick.
Honestly!
Carrick is a holding midfielder, Shelvey is comfortable around the box has good feet and can thread a ball through the defence.
He might not make it at the top level but he'll end up an attacking-mid for someone.
Shelvey is more of a Carrick.
[/quote]
He is NOTHING AT ALL like Carrick.
Honestly!
Carrick is a holding midfielder, Shelvey is comfortable around the box has good feet and can thread a ball through the defence.
He might not make it at the top level but he'll end up an attacking-mid for someone.
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=43975.msg1276809#msg1276809 date=1296685898]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=43975.msg1276790#msg1276790 date=1296685311]
Shelvey is more of a Carrick.
[/quote]
He is NOTHING AT ALL like Carrick.
Honestly!
Carrick is a holding midfielder, Shelvey is comfortable around the box has good feet and can thread a ball through the defence.
He might not make it at the top level but he'll end up an attacking-mid for someone.
[/quote]
Not us, Robin?
[quote author=Modo link=topic=43975.msg1276790#msg1276790 date=1296685311]
Shelvey is more of a Carrick.
[/quote]
He is NOTHING AT ALL like Carrick.
Honestly!
Carrick is a holding midfielder, Shelvey is comfortable around the box has good feet and can thread a ball through the defence.
He might not make it at the top level but he'll end up an attacking-mid for someone.
[/quote]
Not us, Robin?
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=43975.msg1276809#msg1276809 date=1296685898]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=43975.msg1276790#msg1276790 date=1296685311]
Shelvey is more of a Carrick.
[/quote]
He is NOTHING AT ALL like Carrick.
Honestly!
Carrick is a holding midfielder, Shelvey is comfortable around the box has good feet and can thread a ball through the defence.
He might not make it at the top level but he'll end up an attacking-mid for someone.
[/quote]
Well he's no Gerrard.
Like someone else mentioned. What made Gerrard special was his bursting runs, remember Sheffield? Gerrard was more dynamic(is more dynamic).
Shelvey is more Carrick than Gerrard.
Maybe he's a Lamplard.
[quote author=Modo link=topic=43975.msg1276790#msg1276790 date=1296685311]
Shelvey is more of a Carrick.
[/quote]
He is NOTHING AT ALL like Carrick.
Honestly!
Carrick is a holding midfielder, Shelvey is comfortable around the box has good feet and can thread a ball through the defence.
He might not make it at the top level but he'll end up an attacking-mid for someone.
[/quote]
Well he's no Gerrard.
Like someone else mentioned. What made Gerrard special was his bursting runs, remember Sheffield? Gerrard was more dynamic(is more dynamic).
Shelvey is more Carrick than Gerrard.
Maybe he's a Lamplard.
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=43975.msg1276104#msg1276104 date=1296672993]
[quote author=Redshrek link=topic=43975.msg1276101#msg1276101 date=1296672959]
I maybe wrong about cole.
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*Rolls eyes*
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*sticks central finger up*
[quote author=Redshrek link=topic=43975.msg1276101#msg1276101 date=1296672959]
I maybe wrong about cole.
[/quote]
*Rolls eyes*
[/quote]
*sticks central finger up*
is cole injuried or does kenny not rate him?
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=43975.msg1276199#msg1276199 date=1296676296]
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=43975.msg1276165#msg1276165 date=1296675299]
---------------Kuyt
Aurelio-----------------Johnson
--------Gerrard Meireles
---------------Lucas
Agger Kyrgiakos Skrtel Kelly
---------------Reina
[/quote]
I hope it's this
But I think Ian has called it right
[/quote]
*coughs*
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=43975.msg1276165#msg1276165 date=1296675299]
---------------Kuyt
Aurelio-----------------Johnson
--------Gerrard Meireles
---------------Lucas
Agger Kyrgiakos Skrtel Kelly
---------------Reina
[/quote]
I hope it's this
But I think Ian has called it right
[/quote]
*coughs*
[quote author=Modo link=topic=43975.msg1276819#msg1276819 date=1296686154]
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=43975.msg1276809#msg1276809 date=1296685898]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=43975.msg1276790#msg1276790 date=1296685311]
Shelvey is more of a Carrick.
[/quote]
He is NOTHING AT ALL like Carrick.
Honestly!
Carrick is a holding midfielder, Shelvey is comfortable around the box has good feet and can thread a ball through the defence.
He might not make it at the top level but he'll end up an attacking-mid for someone.
[/quote]
Well he's no Gerrard.
Like someone else mentioned. What made Gerrard special was his bursting runs, remember Sheffield? Gerrard was more dynamic(is more dynamic).
Shelvey is more Carrick than Gerrard.
Maybe he's a Lamplard.
[/quote]
I agree he's not a Gerrard clone. I don't think one exists.
But you've now gone from Carrick to Lampard, which is closer, but how you could go from one to the other is just beyoond me.
You're just saying names of English CMs
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=43975.msg1276809#msg1276809 date=1296685898]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=43975.msg1276790#msg1276790 date=1296685311]
Shelvey is more of a Carrick.
[/quote]
He is NOTHING AT ALL like Carrick.
Honestly!
Carrick is a holding midfielder, Shelvey is comfortable around the box has good feet and can thread a ball through the defence.
He might not make it at the top level but he'll end up an attacking-mid for someone.
[/quote]
Well he's no Gerrard.
Like someone else mentioned. What made Gerrard special was his bursting runs, remember Sheffield? Gerrard was more dynamic(is more dynamic).
Shelvey is more Carrick than Gerrard.
Maybe he's a Lamplard.
[/quote]
I agree he's not a Gerrard clone. I don't think one exists.
But you've now gone from Carrick to Lampard, which is closer, but how you could go from one to the other is just beyoond me.
You're just saying names of English CMs
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=43975.msg1276814#msg1276814 date=1296686056]
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=43975.msg1276809#msg1276809 date=1296685898]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=43975.msg1276790#msg1276790 date=1296685311]
Shelvey is more of a Carrick.
[/quote]
He is NOTHING AT ALL like Carrick.
Honestly!
Carrick is a holding midfielder, Shelvey is comfortable around the box has good feet and can thread a ball through the defence.
He might not make it at the top level but he'll end up an attacking-mid for someone.
[/quote]
Not us, Robin?
[/quote]
Well...I like the kid, but the jury's out, isn't it
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=43975.msg1276809#msg1276809 date=1296685898]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=43975.msg1276790#msg1276790 date=1296685311]
Shelvey is more of a Carrick.
[/quote]
He is NOTHING AT ALL like Carrick.
Honestly!
Carrick is a holding midfielder, Shelvey is comfortable around the box has good feet and can thread a ball through the defence.
He might not make it at the top level but he'll end up an attacking-mid for someone.
[/quote]
Not us, Robin?
[/quote]
Well...I like the kid, but the jury's out, isn't it
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=43975.msg1276824#msg1276824 date=1296686376]
is cole injuried or does kenny not rate him?
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No idea mate, it's a strange one. he's not injured so that says to me kenny don't rate the lad.
is cole injuried or does kenny not rate him?
[/quote]
No idea mate, it's a strange one. he's not injured so that says to me kenny don't rate the lad.
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=43975.msg1276832#msg1276832 date=1296686581]
Redshrek is a great man, and the site would not be nothing without him, nothing I tell you, NOTHING!
[/quote]
No one's bigger than the site 😉
Redshrek is a great man, and the site would not be nothing without him, nothing I tell you, NOTHING!
[/quote]
No one's bigger than the site 😉
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=43975.msg1276834#msg1276834 date=1296686601]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=43975.msg1276832#msg1276832 date=1296686581]
Redshrek is a great man, and the site would not be nothing without him, nothing I tell you, NOTHING!
[/quote]
No one's bigger than the site 😉
[/quote]
You've not seen Redshrek
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=43975.msg1276832#msg1276832 date=1296686581]
Redshrek is a great man, and the site would not be nothing without him, nothing I tell you, NOTHING!
[/quote]
No one's bigger than the site 😉
[/quote]
You've not seen Redshrek
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=43975.msg1276829#msg1276829 date=1296686457]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=43975.msg1276819#msg1276819 date=1296686154]
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=43975.msg1276809#msg1276809 date=1296685898]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=43975.msg1276790#msg1276790 date=1296685311]
Shelvey is more of a Carrick.
[/quote]
He is NOTHING AT ALL like Carrick.
Honestly!
Carrick is a holding midfielder, Shelvey is comfortable around the box has good feet and can thread a ball through the defence.
He might not make it at the top level but he'll end up an attacking-mid for someone.
[/quote]
Well he's no Gerrard.
Like someone else mentioned. What made Gerrard special was his bursting runs, remember Sheffield? Gerrard was more dynamic(is more dynamic).
Shelvey is more Carrick than Gerrard.
Maybe he's a Lamplard.
[/quote]
I agree he's not a Gerrard clone. I don't think one exists.
But you've now gone from Carrick to Lampard, which is closer, but how you could go from one to the other is just beyoond me.
You're just saying names of English CMs
[/quote]
You know what?
I think he's more of a Bryan Robson . 😉
[quote author=Modo link=topic=43975.msg1276819#msg1276819 date=1296686154]
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=43975.msg1276809#msg1276809 date=1296685898]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=43975.msg1276790#msg1276790 date=1296685311]
Shelvey is more of a Carrick.
[/quote]
He is NOTHING AT ALL like Carrick.
Honestly!
Carrick is a holding midfielder, Shelvey is comfortable around the box has good feet and can thread a ball through the defence.
He might not make it at the top level but he'll end up an attacking-mid for someone.
[/quote]
Well he's no Gerrard.
Like someone else mentioned. What made Gerrard special was his bursting runs, remember Sheffield? Gerrard was more dynamic(is more dynamic).
Shelvey is more Carrick than Gerrard.
Maybe he's a Lamplard.
[/quote]
I agree he's not a Gerrard clone. I don't think one exists.
But you've now gone from Carrick to Lampard, which is closer, but how you could go from one to the other is just beyoond me.
You're just saying names of English CMs
[/quote]
You know what?
I think he's more of a Bryan Robson . 😉
Aye, I was surprised that people were calling 4-4-2 when we'd been told by Shrek that it was 3 at the back. He's rarely wrong, and appreciated for that.
[quote author=Redshrek link=topic=43975.msg1276831#msg1276831 date=1296686558]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=43975.msg1276824#msg1276824 date=1296686376]
is cole injuried or does kenny not rate him?
[/quote]
No idea mate, it's a strange one. he's not injured so that says to me kenny don't rate the lad.
[/quote]
then he'll be on his way in the summer. wages are far too big not to contribute.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=43975.msg1276824#msg1276824 date=1296686376]
is cole injuried or does kenny not rate him?
[/quote]
No idea mate, it's a strange one. he's not injured so that says to me kenny don't rate the lad.
[/quote]
then he'll be on his way in the summer. wages are far too big not to contribute.
[quote author=Redshrek link=topic=43975.msg1276827#msg1276827 date=1296686440]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=43975.msg1276199#msg1276199 date=1296676296]
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=43975.msg1276165#msg1276165 date=1296675299]
---------------Kuyt
Aurelio-----------------Johnson
--------Gerrard Meireles
---------------Lucas
Agger Kyrgiakos Skrtel Kelly
---------------Reina
[/quote]
I hope it's this
But I think Ian has called it right
[/quote]
*coughs*
[/quote]
What *was* the shape of the team?
---------------Kuyt
-------Gerrard-----Meireles
---------------Lucas
-----Aurelio-------Agger
Johnson Kyrgiakos Skrtel Kelly
------------------Reina
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=43975.msg1276199#msg1276199 date=1296676296]
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=43975.msg1276165#msg1276165 date=1296675299]
---------------Kuyt
Aurelio-----------------Johnson
--------Gerrard Meireles
---------------Lucas
Agger Kyrgiakos Skrtel Kelly
---------------Reina
[/quote]
I hope it's this
But I think Ian has called it right
[/quote]
*coughs*
[/quote]
What *was* the shape of the team?
---------------Kuyt
-------Gerrard-----Meireles
---------------Lucas
-----Aurelio-------Agger
Johnson Kyrgiakos Skrtel Kelly
------------------Reina
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=43975.msg1276844#msg1276844 date=1296686796]
[quote author=Redshrek link=topic=43975.msg1276831#msg1276831 date=1296686558]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=43975.msg1276824#msg1276824 date=1296686376]
is cole injuried or does kenny not rate him?
[/quote]
No idea mate, it's a strange one. he's not injured so that says to me kenny don't rate the lad.
[/quote]
then he'll be on his way in the summer. wages are far too big not to contribute.
[/quote]
Sunday...
Chelsea - Liverpool 0-2
24th Cole
57th Cole
Red cards: Torres 82nd
[quote author=Redshrek link=topic=43975.msg1276831#msg1276831 date=1296686558]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=43975.msg1276824#msg1276824 date=1296686376]
is cole injuried or does kenny not rate him?
[/quote]
No idea mate, it's a strange one. he's not injured so that says to me kenny don't rate the lad.
[/quote]
then he'll be on his way in the summer. wages are far too big not to contribute.
[/quote]
Sunday...
Chelsea - Liverpool 0-2
24th Cole
57th Cole
Red cards: Torres 82nd
I've just paid attention to the start to MOTD properly for the first time this season. Stanley Matthews receiving a throw from Rory Delap amongst other badly put together images.
Oh dear.
Oh dear.
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