Chavs piss me off.
It's hard to know what to do with Wisdom, he never has a bad game but he rarely shines. I've seen him 5 or 6 times for Derby and he's incredibly consistent defensively but rarely offer a threat in the opposition half. He's gives a 7.5/10 performance wek-in-week-out but I'm not convinced he's ever going to be a top level defender. The Derby fans like him but are very undecided whether or not they should buy him if they get promoted. I think he'll end up being a very consistent performer in the EPL but for a team in the lower reaches of the league.André Wisdom is currently captain of the England Under-21 team. I don't remember him having a bad game for Liverpool so I would certainly hang on to him and see how he gets on.
he's not a chav, he's street yagetme. all chavs from leeds sell bud so he's ruled out of that category
It's hard to know what to do with Wisdom, he never has a bad game but he rarely shines. I've seen him 5 or 6 times for Derby and he's incredibly consistent defensively but rarely offer a threat in the opposition half. He's gives a 7.5/10 performance wek-in-week-out but I'm not convinced he's ever going to be a top level defender. The Derby fans like him but are very undecided whether or not they should buy him if they get promoted. I think he'll end up being a very consistent performer in the EPL but for a team in the lower reaches of the league.
I think if Derby offered us £3m-£4m for him we should consider it and maybe buy Micah Richards for £6m-£7m. They are very similar players but I think Richards is stronger, quicker and better in the air.
Maybe we could do with a defender who is incredibly consistent defensively. 🙂
He isn't the tallest. Might that be the reason?
The Richards link is interesting. He's got lots of ability - more than Wisdom IMHO - but hasn't made it count consistently, maybe because of occasional trouble off the field. On the face of it he could be a classic Moneyball signing.
Couldn't agree more but his incredible consistency this season has been at Championship level and I would have thought he might have stood out at that level rather than just show consistency. Having said that there have been plenty of players in the past who don't shine at the lower levels but are effective nonetheless and perform similarly when promotoed the the EPL.Maybe we could do with a defender who is incredibly consistent defensively. 🙂
Rodgers should stick his arm up Kelly's arse. It's worth trying.
Is that so as he can have a gayt run like Sterling?
Mirallas tore Wisdom a new arsehole in the derby at Goodson 2 seasons ago, the one where we got robbed by that twat of a linesman in the last minute.
All part of the learning process though, we should definately keep him and see if hes up to it.
He's not a right back though, that much is obvious to everyone, he looks good bringing the ball out from the back and is a big commanding figure, but his ability with the ball at his feet in tight situations and on the turn leaves alot to be desired, I think he'll progress to be at the very least a decent centre half. He looks like one, I never really understood people saying the same of Kelly.
Thats the thing though, is it obvious? hes never played a senior game at centre back has he?
Not arguing whether he is or isn't but if its blatent that hes centre back then why doesn't he get some games there?, fwiw thought he done a decent job at right back for us apart from the Goodison game where he was up against a good player bang on form.
He has, but in a back three maybe a couple of times last season. Can't remember if he was the right side or central CB for that, probably the former.
As for the earlier comment about Mirallas - to be fair, Mirallas would've torn the arse off a number of specialist full backs; he's a skilful and pacy player and is a really tough matchup for defenders.
Kelly looked OK in the post-season friendly against Shamrock Rovers. He even scored quite a good goal.
It was against a bunch of part timers, we shouldn't make a big deal of it.
Kelly also fucked up big time close to the end of the 2nd half
Thats the thing though, is it obvious? hes never played a senior game at centre back has he?
Not arguing whether he is or isn't but if its blatent that hes centre back then why doesn't he get some games there?, fwiw thought he done a decent job at right back for us apart from the Goodison game where he was up against a good player bang on form.