Liverpool v rentboys
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It was funny at HT to hear Carra complain he lacked the pace to play at the back - he might not be fast but he's not as slow as Carra was! Aside from a few naive moves I thought he showed he's got plenty of promise, and that run he made right through to the edge of their area was great.
I did shout at the screen 'you can talk'.
Can's weird, he seems like he's running in sand when he accelerates, but once he gets going he's actually rather fast.
I was guessing 'Diego Costa, he lives in a van" but it was hard to hear it exactly.
Something about buying his best clothes, in Tescos and being a gypsy cunt.
Ryan had the lyrics in the match thread I think but he may just have made it up
Ah, Google revealed it.
It's Diego Costa, the elephant man.
It's Diego Costa, the elephant man.
Chelsea fans had a great song about Costa. It went something like " Diego, Diego, Diego, Diego, Diego..........."
He just adapted that tesco song for Diego Costa after I made my guess about what they were singing.
Was funny though.
insane pass.
He did tweet saying that you don't need pace to wear #23.
I think Carragher's comments about Can have been blown out of proportion. He basically said Can is excellent at bringing the ball out but his defensive abilities aren't as good. It is okay with 3 at the back as he has less defending to do but he might struggle in a 4-4-2 formation if deployed back there. I can't see much wrong there.
Can is young and I doubt he'll end up at CB in the long term anyway. His level of pace confuses me. He is beaten in a foot race at times but then out of nowhere marauds down the pitch like the CANWAGON he is.
It was made out at half time that Can has a torrid half, he looked fine to me, and he only made one real mistake and was against one of the best wingers around, who was receiving support from one of the best strikers and midfielders in world football, or I am I just showing my bias?
Oh I agree it was harsh at Can but he made two defensive errors that led to the pen. He allowed Cesc past him far too easily and then made a clumsy tackle. I would forgive him though and we have. He is young and his defensive instincts will hopefully improve. If Lovren allowed Cesc in and then gave away that pen in the same phase of play we'd be cursing him all over the forum.
The one thing that drove me nuts (again) was the bizarre faffing around at the back that seemed more to do with showing they could do it than actually waiting for space in which to move forward. We have a large and well-paid 'video analysis' team who surely could compile the clips that show how often this ritual results in Mingolet hurriedly kicking the ball long and losing possession. This routine no doubt produced a nice reliable total in opta pass completion stats but the reality is it rarely seems connected to the rest of the team's movement. The number of times when we almost had the ball intercepted while passing across the pitch just in front of our own area did the nerves no good at all.
He looked very mobile for Leverkusen. I think someone on the most recent Anfield Wrap wondered whether he might just have naturally filled out in the months before the season started, and the bulk has kind of taken the edge off his acceleration. I'm not sure that's even possible let alone likely, but it certainly *looks* something like that. He's only just 21 after all so I guess his body is still changing. If he's just put too much weight on in the gym then I think he'd be better to lose it.
Whatever, it's too bad for us because it does cost him a bit of his effectiveness.
Hahahaha - look at the guy in blue 😀
CHELSEA SMASH.
Hahaha. He's right in the middle of a throng of Reds there and has probably had to bite his tongue all evening. 
There was one moment when Chelsea did something we should learn from – we pinned them in their own half, they had possession, but were under heavy pressure. They escaped the pressure beautifully – pinged 4-5 lightning-quick passes together, some of them one-touch and just a millisecond before our tackle would fly in, and were attacking in our half in no time. This is what having players who are comfortable and brave on the ball can do – Rodgers is right to emphasize this, but we should keep improving.
I agree – some of the passes back to Mignolet yesterday were completely unnecessary, with Skrtel a particular culprit. I think it was nerves more than anything else. This is why Can is so important to our ability to build intelligently from the back, he has total confidence in his ability on the ball.
The reason I say it's nerves is because I didn't see it too much in the last few games – I was generally happy how we were building from the back through Can and Sakho. But under mostly psychological pressure from Chelsea some bad old habits resurfaced.
I think the algorithm works like this: [player thinks: "This is the big bad Chelsea team we are playing, they punish all mistakes ruthlessly, I don't want to be the one who gets my pass intercepted"] > [turns and prepares to boot the ball upfield] > [remember's Rodgers' instructions NOT to boot the ball upfield] > [turns back to his own goal and passes the ball to Mignolet, who promptly boots it upfield, conceding possession] > [player thinks: "at least I wasn't the one who gave it away, it was the stupid goalkeeper"]
The only way to break this self-defeating algorithm is to have players who are 100% confident in their ability on the ball in every position in defense. This is not the same as having the silkiest technique – Carra didn't, but he usually knew what he wanted to do with the ball. And whenever he fucked up, he could live with the mistake and not let it change the way he was playing – so it's about character too. It's a solvable problem, we'll get it right I'm sure.
I think the algorithm works like this: [player thinks: "This is the big bad Chelsea team we are playing, they punish all mistakes ruthlessly, I don't want to be the one who gets my pass intercepted"] > [turns and prepares to boot the ball upfield] > [remember's Rodgers' instructions NOT to boot the ball upfield] > [turns back to his own goal and passes the ball to Mignolet, who promptly boots it upfield, conceding possession] > [player thinks: "at least I wasn't the one who gave it away, it was the stupid goalkeeper"]
The only way to break this self-defeating algorithm is to have players who are 100% confident in their ability on the ball in every position in defense. This is not the same as having the silkiest technique – Carra didn't, but he usually knew what he wanted to do with the ball. And whenever he fucked up, he could live with the mistake and not let it change the way he was playing – so it's about character too. It's a solvable problem, we'll get it right I'm sure.
Yes, I bet he fucking loves Jordan Henderson as well.
Hahahaha - look at the guy in blue 😀
It's that pretending to be delighted whilst supressing a massive FFS outburst, look
Nah. The guy's dressed in al blue FFS - it's not like he's trying to hide anything is it 😀
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