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Liverpool V Manchester City.

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Oncy

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So Wednesday then?

Im honestly trying to think how we can change the side for the better from what we saw today. Its that fucking horrific.

I think that would have been my best team today. I really do.
 
Some changes could be easy, like ranting at the lot of them until they buck up their ideas and start giving a shit.

I'd like Shelvey to play, ditto Bellamy, Kelly, Reina, Gerrard.

Don't really care about the rest.
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=48393.msg1468358#msg1468358 date=1327193597]
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And you know we won last time right?
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Yeah, but without Bellamy (assume he'll be rested for utd if he can't play too many games in a row) and Suarez, i can't see how we're going to play. Carroll isn't an outlet like those two.
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=48393.msg1468358#msg1468358 date=1327193597]
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And you know we won last time right?
[/quote]Yes mate, but they were missing their best and most creative player (and probably the best player in the league) who is back now. And we hadnt just played our worst two games of football in about 3 years.
 
Reina

Kelly Skrtel Agger Enrique

Gerrard Aurelio
Henderson
Kuyt Bellamy
Carroll

Kelly because he's better than Johnson defensively. Aurelio because Adam can't make it past the 65 minute mark.
Kuyt because he's the best defensive forward/attacker in the world (depressing).
Henderson because he works hard.
Carroll? Well because there's nobody else to be honest.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=48393.msg1468371#msg1468371 date=1327194050]
We got ripped apart by Nigel Reo-coker today.
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Wouldn't have happened if Gerrard and Adam actually tried. They strolled around half arsed all game. Very poor.

On another note, N'gog was brilliant for Bolton. Gave our defence a torrid time. Wasn't like that for us, typical.
 
I was gutted about the fact that I'm supposed to be working on Wednesday night, I begged them to be on the agenda as early as possible so I could leave and catch the second half. Might be better off missing it
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=48393.msg1468374#msg1468374 date=1327194184]
it's going to be a long night.
flood the midfield and stop city playing, it's shithouse tactics but fuck it
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Fuck that.

We're at Anfield, we've got just a one goal lead & we're playing the best scoring team in the league.

We got & play like it's 0-0 in a knockout cup game. Any other tactic wont work IMO.

The atmosphere on Wed will be fucking electric, despite, or maybe in spite of, that dross yesterday.

We'll do them 2-0. We're a cup team, you should all know that by now.
 
Johnson and Adam need rockets up their backsides if they're going to figure.

---------------Reina-----------------
Kelly---Skrtel--Agger---Enrique-
---Henderson-Spearing---------
-------------Shelvey-------------
-Gerrard---Carroll---Bellamy--


Maxi really irritated me yesterday, we could have had at least another goal if it weren't for him fucking around.
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=48393.msg1468472#msg1468472 date=1327230304]
Is he still out?
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Yes. You dont rush players with hamstring injuries back.
 
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[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=48393.msg1468472#msg1468472 date=1327230304]
Is he still out?
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Yes. You dont rush players with hamstring injuries back.
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No shit, unfortunately I'd forgot what his injury was.
 
[quote author=Woland link=topic=48393.msg1468473#msg1468473 date=1327230509]
We've been bollocks since that Gerrard character returned.
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Heh, he looked half arsed yesterday, he did a great impression of Carroll and Adam rolled into one.
 
Swap Adam for Spearing if he's fit. Give the lads a new chance to put things right.

I feel Kenny was spot on regarding to many of our players not turning up and being focused on City and Utd.
Very unprofessional and is something that is unacceptable.
 
I reckon we sit back and kick them.

We've got to up the intensity by one billion percent otherwise we'll great destroyed.

Anfield will have some life in it, which will help matters.
 
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[quote author=Woland link=topic=48393.msg1468473#msg1468473 date=1327230509]
We've been bollocks since that Gerrard character returned.
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Heh, he looked half arsed yesterday, he did a great impression of Carroll and Adam rolled into one.
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I don't think he looked half arsed. He obviously been told to stay back and play in a deeper role than we are used to seeing him.
 
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[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=48393.msg1468476#msg1468476 date=1327230691]
[quote author=Woland link=topic=48393.msg1468473#msg1468473 date=1327230509]
We've been bollocks since that Gerrard character returned.
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Heh, he looked half arsed yesterday, he did a great impression of Carroll and Adam rolled into one.
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I don't think he looked half arsed. He obviously been told to stay back and play in a deeper role than we are used to seeing him.
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Yeah, his lack of fitness showed too. Think the last couple of games his adrenaline kicked in big time & he's paying for it now.

In hindsight a games rest ahead of wed would help but nevermind.

I said watching the Utd game I was impressed how much he stayed back but he was less disciplined with just Adam alongside him, I suspect he saw how poor Adam was & kept trying to influence the game but didn't want to get too high up the pitch.
 
[quote author=Woland link=topic=48393.msg1468473#msg1468473 date=1327230509]
We've been bollocks since that Gerrard character returned.
[/quote]i hope its a coincidence..
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=48393.msg1468350#msg1468350 date=1327192988]
So Wednesday then?

Im honestly trying to think how we can change the side for the better from what we saw today. Its that fucking horrific.

I think that would have been my best team today. I really do.


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right, I'm not picking on you particularly Oncy, but that line "today's side against Bolton was exactly the one I would have picked too!" is one I've read quite a few times, as if indicating that Dalglish did all he could.

This is also an extension of Rosco's mantra that the key to management is in buying good players.

It's rubbish.

Good management is getting the absolute maximum out of what you've got. sure buying better players helps, but to seperate the decent managers from the every good ones you need to be able to train, motivate and educate the players you've got better than anyone else.

4 cases in point:
1 - United last year. Ferguson won that fucking league for them off his own back. He's a genius at getting the most out of players, and making superstars out of good players.
2 - The current Sunderland side under O'Neill. Look at the transformation they've amde under a better manager. No money spoent, and he's turned that side around attitude and formation wise.
3 - Mourinho at Madrid. A side inferior to Barca, and they're going to win the league.
4 - Redknapp at Spurs. Took them over when they were bottom of the fucking league, has spent less than what we have and his side are the best to watch in the league and could win the fucking thing.

Dalglish's side and squad aren't fucking horrendous. they should be doing better than they are. Right now what I see is a midfield that overplays, a largely disjointed attacking philosphy that is far too reliant on one or two players rather than any imposed style, and absolutely zero ability to change tactics or approach when things aren't going our way./

That has nothing to do with transfer polucy or team selection, it's just rank awful management in my book.
 
I'm not gonna defend Dalglish's spendings, but your point about O'Neill could be applied to Dalglish last season, he came in and had a similar impact to the one O'Neill is having now. I like O'Neill alot, but there will come a point where they'll hit a brick wall.
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=48393.msg1469006#msg1469006 date=1327306644]
I'm not gonna defend Dalglish's spendings, but your point about O'Neill could be applied to Dalglish last season, he came in and had a similar impact to the one O'Neill is having now. I like O'Neill alot, but there will come a point where they'll hit a brick wall.
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Agree.
 
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