That's my worry. Anyone but him.
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That's my worry. Anyone but him.
Macca in "I hate Gerrard" shocka.
If it eventually costs us then maybe. Let's just wait and see how it all pans out.
It really cant be can it? fuck life if it is.
It's amazing isn't it, that for all the crap you talk about his attitude on the pitch, that hardly any (actually I know of none) ex-players from Liverpool have come out to say how horrible a cunt and captain he is on match day. And there must be around 100 ex-liverpool players that have played with him.
Great argument. That one must have taken more fine tuning than usual, but it was worth it.
Why wouldn't they? There's enough ex players who are complete nob-heads and the type to come out and call a spade a spade. Most ex-players refer to him as inspirational, because he is. He might be a bit naive sometimes, doing too much, but that's helped us more than hampered us over the years. He might appear a bit of an arrogant, surly chap, but he's certainly got a better persona than cunts like Ronaldo, and most wouldn't bat an eyelid at his antics if he played for us.
Whatevers anyway, we know your stance on brilliant players.
Well done yet again in getting personal instead of expanding on a discussion.
You're saying modern day footballers never come out to reveal their ill feelings towards football clubs or personnel in that club?
So Sahin coming out to criticize Rodgers, Bellers coming out with a book laying into Riise amongst others. Murphey criticizing Rafa and the club phylosphy, etc etc, is again 'the exception to the rule'?
You're weird.
I agree with Macca.
The mistake is irrelevant, they happen and it wasnt his fault. His reaction to it was garbage.
He returned to the Gerrard we dont want. He literally lost his shit. And his and Coutinhos continuous shooting from 30 yards is what cost us. We looked clueless and he was the worst culprit for trying to cover for his mistake. He would have served us and himself better by accepting it, moving on and letting the team do what it does. He didnt he changed everything and cost us.
The mistake is irrelevant, they happen and it wasnt his fault. His reaction to it was garbage.
He returned to the Gerrard we dont want. He literally lost his shit. And his and Coutinhos continuous shooting from 30 yards is what cost us. We looked clueless and he was the worst culprit for trying to cover for his mistake. He would have served us and himself better by accepting it, moving on and letting the team do what it does. He didnt he changed everything and cost us.
I never said there was a rule or exceptions to it.
I said I didn't see that anybody would do it given the general regard there is for Gerrard.
It could happen in the future, you should think about your own examples to see when that might be the case
Nah, just making an observation, as you showed you had no interest what so ever in having a discussion, as per the norm.
How will the bucket help me? Do expand on it, please. You're really interesting.
Ex-players, ex-managers, you name it. Yup, not one of them have said anything negative about them. Bizarre isn't it.
So what'll happen if I were let out, with a bucket on my head? How dangerous would I be?
So what'll happen if I were let out, with a bucket on my head? How dangerous would I be?
Gerrard slipped, that's football. You make your own luck. Get up, dust yourselves off and get tready for the next one.
All is not yet lost. Heads and chins up lads, lets go again and get the redemption needed in the next game. Eagles are going to be a tough game. We need the 3 points and lots of goals.
All is not yet lost. Heads and chins up lads, lets go again and get the redemption needed in the next game. Eagles are going to be a tough game. We need the 3 points and lots of goals.
Have you ever heard the phrase ' absence of evidence is not evidence of absence'?
Just call each other cunts and be done with it.
Have to agree a bit about Gerrard, obviously he has been inspirational in the past but the amount of times you see him ambling around the pitch with a face like a slapped arse and sometimes even after he scores makes it clear he is far from inspiring a lot of the time, im not sure how that can be good captaincy, early on in the season he was playing average at best and not really looking that arsed, only after he came back from injury after Xmas when things looked on did he look genuinely up for it as a player and captain, imo.
I understand the criticisms about the performance after the slip, he should have remained calm and stopped trying to make up for it, but can anybody blame him? He will have felt like he let millions of people down at the most important point of his career, who wouldn't be trying to put it right?
But to use it to denigrate his time with us, his ability as a captain, have little snidey pot shots at him in every other thread is frankly disgusting and disrespectful to one of, if not the greatest, players to ever play for us. One of the greatest ever players to play in this country. Where would we have been without his desire in Istanbul, at Cardiff, against Olympiakos. Hell, where would we be if he went into his shell everytime he didn't feel up to it over the last ten years. We'd probably be a midtable club. He was saving our arses every week for about 8 years. Granted, he's playing more of a team role now, but to chastise him for the very attributes that have dragged this club kicking and screaming from the dark, singlehandedly at times, is just downright disrespectful.
I take particular exception to people who slag off Gerrard. Sure, he's not perfect, who on this planet is? But he's been pretty fucking close over the last 15 years. People who slate him, and don't like him because he doesn't smile or whatever? Get a fucking grip. It's like those brain-dead orcs on RAWK who will slate Gerrard and in the same breath talk up Lucas' attributes. It makes you look like a deluded loon. It's as if these people want to slate him because it makes it look like they see things from a higher plain than the rest of us. He's not fucking "Stevie Me", a sulk, a petulant whatever, etc etc. He's been the single most important person at this club over the last ten years. Could he do more? sure, but you've got a fucking cheek to demand it from him after everything he has done.
He will be hurting more than anybody over what he did, more than any of us. But you can bank on him being the most determined - and most capable - player in red to put it right.
But to use it to denigrate his time with us, his ability as a captain, have little snidey pot shots at him in every other thread is frankly disgusting and disrespectful to one of, if not the greatest, players to ever play for us. One of the greatest ever players to play in this country. Where would we have been without his desire in Istanbul, at Cardiff, against Olympiakos. Hell, where would we be if he went into his shell everytime he didn't feel up to it over the last ten years. We'd probably be a midtable club. He was saving our arses every week for about 8 years. Granted, he's playing more of a team role now, but to chastise him for the very attributes that have dragged this club kicking and screaming from the dark, singlehandedly at times, is just downright disrespectful.
I take particular exception to people who slag off Gerrard. Sure, he's not perfect, who on this planet is? But he's been pretty fucking close over the last 15 years. People who slate him, and don't like him because he doesn't smile or whatever? Get a fucking grip. It's like those brain-dead orcs on RAWK who will slate Gerrard and in the same breath talk up Lucas' attributes. It makes you look like a deluded loon. It's as if these people want to slate him because it makes it look like they see things from a higher plain than the rest of us. He's not fucking "Stevie Me", a sulk, a petulant whatever, etc etc. He's been the single most important person at this club over the last ten years. Could he do more? sure, but you've got a fucking cheek to demand it from him after everything he has done.
He will be hurting more than anybody over what he did, more than any of us. But you can bank on him being the most determined - and most capable - player in red to put it right.
On balance I'd rather have Steven Gerrard in the team even with the very human response of trying too hard to correct a mistake.
I know this leaves me with accepting lower standards than the perfectionists but I still feel he can do a job for us.
I know this leaves me with accepting lower standards than the perfectionists but I still feel he can do a job for us.
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