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Kelechi Nkoro @K1Says51s
Fergie on Rafa: "Benitez had more regard for defending and destroying a game than winning it. I found#LFC hard to watch when he was there"
Oliver Kay @OliverKayTimes2m
Ferguson on Lampard: "Lampard, for me, was a marvellous servant for Chelsea, but I didn’t think of him as an elite international footballer"
Sam Wallace @SamWallaceIndy21s
Fergie on Wenger: 'When you acquire [Nasri, Arshavin, Rosicky] they are almost clones. The team he inherited gave him a start in England'
Fergie on Rafa: "Benitez had more regard for defending and destroying a game than winning it. I found
Oliver Kay
Ferguson on Lampard: "Lampard, for me, was a marvellous servant for Chelsea, but I didn’t think of him as an elite international footballer"
Sam Wallace
Fergie on Wenger: 'When you acquire [Nasri, Arshavin, Rosicky] they are almost clones. The team he inherited gave him a start in England'
"Other fuel for the fire between them goes unexplored here. The tension increased in 2009 when Ferguson claimed that he “would have to read more of Freud before I could understand all that went on in Benitez’s head”. Other fuel for the fire between them goes unexplored here. The tension increased in 2009 when Ferguson claimed that he “would have to read more of Freud before I could understand all that went on in Benitez’s head”. "
[article=http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/alex-ferguson-book-fergie-labels-2479324#ixzz2iST2Clpp ]Former Manchester United boss Ferguson, in his autobiography, writes: "The mistake he made was to turn our rivalry personal. Once you made it personal, you had no chance because I could wait. I had success on my side. Benitez was striving for trophies while also taking me on. That was unwise.
"So, on television he puts his glasses on and produces this sheet of paper. Facts. The facts were all wrong. All I said in reply was that Rafa was obviously bitter about something... That was me saying to him: look, you're a silly man. You should never make it personal.
"The advance publicity was that Benitez was a control freak, which turned out to be correct."
Sir Alex expanded by saying that when it came to choosing a winner between his old rivals, Jose Mourinho was the better manager:
"Jose Mourinho was far more astute in his handling of players. And he has personality. If you saw Jose and Rafa standing together on the touchline, you knew you could pick the winner."[/article]
[article=http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/alex-ferguson-book-arsene-wenger-2478908#ixzz2iSTlTkLL ]Van Persie scored 26 goals in his first league season as Manchester United romped to a 13th Premier League title under Ferguson.
And writing in his new book - My Autobiography - Ferguson said it was the striker himself who was keen to have talks with the club.
After finding out about Van Persie's interest, the then Manchester United boss spoke on the phone to Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger several times to seal the move.
Ferguson wrote: "I warned Arsene we would never get to £25m. Arsene was incredulous. He could not believe that Manchester United wouldn't stretch to £25m for such a player.
"I told him again: I wouldn't go to £25m. Arsene asked what my best offer would be. Answer: £22m. The reply was that Arsenal would take £22.5m and a further £1.5m if we won the Champions League or Premier Leaguer during the period of his contract. Deal done."
Earlier this summer, Van Persie revealed his side of the story and confirmed it was his wish to move to Old Trafford.
He told MUTV in June: “...it wasn’t only me who decided where I went to play. I also depended on my former club as well and how they saw it.
“And then of course you always have these games that the directors play.
“It’s a bit like a rollercoaster. Some days it is looking good and other days it is worse. You don’t really know what to expect because things can change so quickly.
“It normally depends on the player and the two teams, but in my case, there were two other teams involved as well.
“One was [Manchester] City and the other one was Juventus. So it was a bit hectic but I always wanted this transfer from day one."
Van Persie scored his first goal in the 3-2 win over Fulham on August 25, before scoring a hat-trick against Southampton a week later.
And he finished as the league's top goalscorer, three ahead of Luis Suarez, to help United to an 11-point triumph and their 20th league title.
[/article]
[article=http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/wayne-rooney-told-alex-ferguson-2479210#ixzz2iSUEvg3B ]"Wayne said that we should have pursued Mesut Ozil, who had joined Real Madrid from Werder Bremen. My reply was that it was none of his business who we should have gone for.
"I told him it was his job to play and perform. My job was to pick the correct teams. And so far I had been getting it right."
When asked in his book launch press conference whether Rooney has been proved right, Ferguson said: "Well, he was not on our radar at the time. Ozil when at Werder Bremen played wide right, then towards the end of the season played him off the front.
"He went to South Africa and did very well. But wasn't on our radar.
"But I explained to Wayne and we get most of our decisions right."
Mesut Ozil has helped transform Arsenal this season, scoring two goals and providing four assists in the Premier League since joining the Gunners.
The German international has since revealed that he was so keen to join Arsenal he would have come for FREE.
“I would have come here without a fee,” he said, adding, “I am really happy to be here [at Arsenal] under such a great manager. He told me what he thinks about me and this was the reason I chose Arsenal.
“I want to play offensive and good football, we want to keep clean sheets, to play attractive football, to improve but also successful football.”[/article]
"So, on television he puts his glasses on and produces this sheet of paper. Facts. The facts were all wrong. All I said in reply was that Rafa was obviously bitter about something... That was me saying to him: look, you're a silly man. You should never make it personal.
"The advance publicity was that Benitez was a control freak, which turned out to be correct."
Sir Alex expanded by saying that when it came to choosing a winner between his old rivals, Jose Mourinho was the better manager:
"Jose Mourinho was far more astute in his handling of players. And he has personality. If you saw Jose and Rafa standing together on the touchline, you knew you could pick the winner."[/article]
[article=http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/alex-ferguson-book-arsene-wenger-2478908#ixzz2iSTlTkLL ]Van Persie scored 26 goals in his first league season as Manchester United romped to a 13th Premier League title under Ferguson.
And writing in his new book - My Autobiography - Ferguson said it was the striker himself who was keen to have talks with the club.
After finding out about Van Persie's interest, the then Manchester United boss spoke on the phone to Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger several times to seal the move.
Ferguson wrote: "I warned Arsene we would never get to £25m. Arsene was incredulous. He could not believe that Manchester United wouldn't stretch to £25m for such a player.
"I told him again: I wouldn't go to £25m. Arsene asked what my best offer would be. Answer: £22m. The reply was that Arsenal would take £22.5m and a further £1.5m if we won the Champions League or Premier Leaguer during the period of his contract. Deal done."
Earlier this summer, Van Persie revealed his side of the story and confirmed it was his wish to move to Old Trafford.
He told MUTV in June: “...it wasn’t only me who decided where I went to play. I also depended on my former club as well and how they saw it.
“And then of course you always have these games that the directors play.
“It’s a bit like a rollercoaster. Some days it is looking good and other days it is worse. You don’t really know what to expect because things can change so quickly.
“It normally depends on the player and the two teams, but in my case, there were two other teams involved as well.
“One was [Manchester] City and the other one was Juventus. So it was a bit hectic but I always wanted this transfer from day one."
Van Persie scored his first goal in the 3-2 win over Fulham on August 25, before scoring a hat-trick against Southampton a week later.
And he finished as the league's top goalscorer, three ahead of Luis Suarez, to help United to an 11-point triumph and their 20th league title.
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[article=http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/wayne-rooney-told-alex-ferguson-2479210#ixzz2iSUEvg3B ]"Wayne said that we should have pursued Mesut Ozil, who had joined Real Madrid from Werder Bremen. My reply was that it was none of his business who we should have gone for.
"I told him it was his job to play and perform. My job was to pick the correct teams. And so far I had been getting it right."
When asked in his book launch press conference whether Rooney has been proved right, Ferguson said: "Well, he was not on our radar at the time. Ozil when at Werder Bremen played wide right, then towards the end of the season played him off the front.
"He went to South Africa and did very well. But wasn't on our radar.
"But I explained to Wayne and we get most of our decisions right."
Mesut Ozil has helped transform Arsenal this season, scoring two goals and providing four assists in the Premier League since joining the Gunners.
The German international has since revealed that he was so keen to join Arsenal he would have come for FREE.
“I would have come here without a fee,” he said, adding, “I am really happy to be here [at Arsenal] under such a great manager. He told me what he thinks about me and this was the reason I chose Arsenal.
“I want to play offensive and good football, we want to keep clean sheets, to play attractive football, to improve but also successful football.”[/article]
The cunt is copying Ryan word for word there.
Oliver Kay @OliverKayTimes15m
Ferguson on Steven Gerrard: "I'm one of the few who felt Gerrard was not a top, top player."
[article]Sir Alex Ferguson has dismissed Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard credentials as two of the world’s best central midfielders and said that it was “absolute nonsense” to suggest they were superior to former Manchester United midfielder Paul Scholes.
Gerrard, writes Ferguson in his autobiography, “was not a top top player”. Ferguson also says that he did not consider Lampard to be “an elite international footballer”.
He also noted that when Scholes and Roy Keane were playing together against Liverpool, Gerrard “seldom had a kick”.
Ferguson did admit, however, that United were interested in buying Gerrard at the time he almost joined Chelsea in 2005.
Ferguson also believes that Michael Carrick’s international career has suffered because he lacked what he called the “bravado” of Lampard and Gerrard.[/article]
[article]"Maldini was an outstanding player. I loved him.
"I approached his father once, Cesare, and the look he gave me I knew never to go back to him.
"He was never leaving Milan.
And on Italian football, he claims "Marcello Lippi's Juventus were the model."[/article]
Kelechi Nkoro @K1Says1m
Sir Alex on Moyes: “Once the ball starts rolling they will be fine. David has a great support system. They’ll be fine.”
[article]"Well, this press conference has come at a bad time for me! You wouldn't have asked me that if we were top of the league.
"I could not believe the fixture list. He (David Moyes) will get the same help I got from Matt Busby.
David will get that same help. Manchester United are the only team who can come back from behind to win the league."[/article]
Sam Wallace @SamWallaceIndy4s
Fergie on Bebe: 'He was capable of scoring 20 goals a season ... he obviously had a hard upbringing wandering the streets of Lisbon'
Sam Wallace @SamWallaceIndy52s
Ferguson on the Rock of Gibraltar saga - when he sued MUFC's major shareholders. Just 2 paragraphs in 350 pages
Ferguson on Steven Gerrard: "I'm one of the few who felt Gerrard was not a top, top player."
[article]Sir Alex Ferguson has dismissed Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard credentials as two of the world’s best central midfielders and said that it was “absolute nonsense” to suggest they were superior to former Manchester United midfielder Paul Scholes.
Gerrard, writes Ferguson in his autobiography, “was not a top top player”. Ferguson also says that he did not consider Lampard to be “an elite international footballer”.
He also noted that when Scholes and Roy Keane were playing together against Liverpool, Gerrard “seldom had a kick”.
Ferguson did admit, however, that United were interested in buying Gerrard at the time he almost joined Chelsea in 2005.
Ferguson also believes that Michael Carrick’s international career has suffered because he lacked what he called the “bravado” of Lampard and Gerrard.[/article]
[article]"Maldini was an outstanding player. I loved him.
"I approached his father once, Cesare, and the look he gave me I knew never to go back to him.
"He was never leaving Milan.
And on Italian football, he claims "Marcello Lippi's Juventus were the model."[/article]
Kelechi Nkoro
Sir Alex on Moyes: “Once the ball starts rolling they will be fine. David has a great support system. They’ll be fine.”
[article]"Well, this press conference has come at a bad time for me! You wouldn't have asked me that if we were top of the league.
"I could not believe the fixture list. He (David Moyes) will get the same help I got from Matt Busby.
David will get that same help. Manchester United are the only team who can come back from behind to win the league."[/article]
Sam Wallace
Fergie on Bebe: 'He was capable of scoring 20 goals a season ... he obviously had a hard upbringing wandering the streets of Lisbon'
Sam Wallace
Ferguson on the Rock of Gibraltar saga - when he sued MUFC's major shareholders. Just 2 paragraphs in 350 pages
So he paid £24m for him instead of £25m. Oh yes, what an epic piece of negotiating that was. Quite historic. Well worth bragging about in a book.
Gotta "love" the bit where Ginsoak says that, if you saw Rafa and Mourinho side by side on the touchline, you'd soon know who the winner was. Mourinho never got over the way Rafa kept turning him over in Europe.
The stinging attack on Liverpool: Rodgers needs EIGHT more players to win the title, Rafa is a Billy no mates and Gerrard isn't a top star
By MATT LAWTON and IAN LADYMAN
Sir Alex Ferguson tears into bitter rivals Liverpool in his new autobiography, claiming Brendan Rodgers is 'eight players short of becoming genuine title contenders'.
Nobody at Anfield is spared, with Rafa Benitez described as a ‘silly man’ and a control freak who has no friends in management.
But there is wider criticism for Liverpool as a club over the Luis Suarez affair and even the appointment of Rodgers as manager.
Ferguson also dares suggest that Michael Owen became a better player once he had joined Manchester United and dismisses the qualities of Kenny Dalglish signings Stewart Downing, Jordan Henderson and Andy Carroll.
But his most scathing words are reserved for Benitez, whom he says would rather destroy a game than win it and claims his own players could not understand what he was saying from the touchline. He also says he consistently played Steven Gerrard in the wrong position.
While he says he could see a strategy in the signings Gerard Houllier made at Liverpool, he could see nothing of the kind during Benitez’s tenure.
He describes Benitez’s team as the ‘most unimaginative Liverpool side I ever went up against’. ‘The mistake he made was to turn our rivalry personal. Once you made it personal, you had no chance, because I could wait. I had success on my side.’
He also claims the famous ‘facts’ press conference was staged with a planted questions, adding that ‘the facts were all wrong’.
He says Benitez showed no interest in forming relationships with other managers, declaring it a ‘dangerous policy’. He also criticises the Spaniard’s transfer policy, questioning the quality of the players as ‘not of true Liverpool standard’.
One Benitez signing he does compliment is Fernando Torres, a player he tried to sign two years before his arrival at Liverpool. He describes him as a player of a ‘great cunning’, a ‘touch of evil’.
On Gerrard, Ferguson says he was ‘baffled’ that Benitez ‘did not trust’ his captain as a central midfield player. He says Liverpool have stopped producing home-grown talents, identifying Owen as probably the last but Ferguson is sure to incense Liverpool for claming that had the player joined United at 12 years old he ‘would have been one of the great strikers’.
He does credit Benitez with getting his players to work for him, acknowledging that you never see one of his teams ‘throw in the towel’.
But he adds ‘Benitez had more regard for defending and destroying a game than winning it’.
He says Jose Mourinho was more astute with dealing with players.
On Dalglish’s return to Anfield, Ferguson says few of the Liverpool manager’s signings gave him nightmares. Ferguson believes Henderson’s gait will cause him problems later in his career because he runs from his knees with a straight back.
He identifies Downing as a £20million player who was neither the bravest, nor the quickest. He is no fan of Carroll either, citing problems with his ‘mobility’ and ‘his speed across the ground’.
He also criticises Dalglish for his blind defence of Suarez over the Patrice Evra race row. ‘If it had been a reserve player, would Kenny have gone to such lengths to defend him?’
On the Suarez T-shirt stunt, Ferguson adds: ‘I thought it was the most ridiculous thing for a club of Liverpool’s stature.’
He expresses surprise that Rodgers was appointed as Dalglish’s replacement, given that he was ‘only’ 39 years old. He also highlights the American fly-on-the-wall documentary that followed Rodgers at the start of his tenure as a ‘mistake’.
Meanwhile, Gerrard is not a 'top, top player,' according to Ferguson.
The former Manchester United manager felt the England captain 'seldom had a kick' when coming up against a midfield of Roy Keane and Paul Scholes.
But despite this, Ferguson admits he did try to sign the Liverpool captain when word reached Old Trafford in 2005 that his days at Anfield were numbered.
Among considered musings about Gerrard, Ferguson questions why he was not played centrally more often under Rafael Benitez - who often positioned him out wide - and claims he was the only midfielder who could hurt United with bursts forward through the heart of his team's defence.
He concluded Gerrard had the ability to beat team's single-handedly.
But he suggests Gerrard only had more success at international level than Michael Carrick because of 'bravado', with the United man suffering because of a quiet personality.
Likewise, Ferguson believes Frank Lampard deserves credit for his club performances, but doesn't not consider the Chelsea midfielder an 'elite international footballer'.
Gerrard has spoken of Ferguson's desire to sign him from Liverpool and the story is confirmed in the Scotsman's autobiography.
'We made a show of him in the transfer market, as did Chelsea, because the vibe was that he wanted to move from Anfield,' writes Ferguson.
'But there seemed to be some restraining influence from people outside the club and it reached a dead end.'
By MATT LAWTON and IAN LADYMAN
Sir Alex Ferguson tears into bitter rivals Liverpool in his new autobiography, claiming Brendan Rodgers is 'eight players short of becoming genuine title contenders'.
Nobody at Anfield is spared, with Rafa Benitez described as a ‘silly man’ and a control freak who has no friends in management.
But there is wider criticism for Liverpool as a club over the Luis Suarez affair and even the appointment of Rodgers as manager.
Ferguson also dares suggest that Michael Owen became a better player once he had joined Manchester United and dismisses the qualities of Kenny Dalglish signings Stewart Downing, Jordan Henderson and Andy Carroll.
But his most scathing words are reserved for Benitez, whom he says would rather destroy a game than win it and claims his own players could not understand what he was saying from the touchline. He also says he consistently played Steven Gerrard in the wrong position.
While he says he could see a strategy in the signings Gerard Houllier made at Liverpool, he could see nothing of the kind during Benitez’s tenure.
He describes Benitez’s team as the ‘most unimaginative Liverpool side I ever went up against’. ‘The mistake he made was to turn our rivalry personal. Once you made it personal, you had no chance, because I could wait. I had success on my side.’
He also claims the famous ‘facts’ press conference was staged with a planted questions, adding that ‘the facts were all wrong’.
He says Benitez showed no interest in forming relationships with other managers, declaring it a ‘dangerous policy’. He also criticises the Spaniard’s transfer policy, questioning the quality of the players as ‘not of true Liverpool standard’.
One Benitez signing he does compliment is Fernando Torres, a player he tried to sign two years before his arrival at Liverpool. He describes him as a player of a ‘great cunning’, a ‘touch of evil’.
On Gerrard, Ferguson says he was ‘baffled’ that Benitez ‘did not trust’ his captain as a central midfield player. He says Liverpool have stopped producing home-grown talents, identifying Owen as probably the last but Ferguson is sure to incense Liverpool for claming that had the player joined United at 12 years old he ‘would have been one of the great strikers’.
He does credit Benitez with getting his players to work for him, acknowledging that you never see one of his teams ‘throw in the towel’.
But he adds ‘Benitez had more regard for defending and destroying a game than winning it’.
He says Jose Mourinho was more astute with dealing with players.
On Dalglish’s return to Anfield, Ferguson says few of the Liverpool manager’s signings gave him nightmares. Ferguson believes Henderson’s gait will cause him problems later in his career because he runs from his knees with a straight back.
He identifies Downing as a £20million player who was neither the bravest, nor the quickest. He is no fan of Carroll either, citing problems with his ‘mobility’ and ‘his speed across the ground’.
He also criticises Dalglish for his blind defence of Suarez over the Patrice Evra race row. ‘If it had been a reserve player, would Kenny have gone to such lengths to defend him?’
On the Suarez T-shirt stunt, Ferguson adds: ‘I thought it was the most ridiculous thing for a club of Liverpool’s stature.’
He expresses surprise that Rodgers was appointed as Dalglish’s replacement, given that he was ‘only’ 39 years old. He also highlights the American fly-on-the-wall documentary that followed Rodgers at the start of his tenure as a ‘mistake’.
Meanwhile, Gerrard is not a 'top, top player,' according to Ferguson.
The former Manchester United manager felt the England captain 'seldom had a kick' when coming up against a midfield of Roy Keane and Paul Scholes.
But despite this, Ferguson admits he did try to sign the Liverpool captain when word reached Old Trafford in 2005 that his days at Anfield were numbered.
Among considered musings about Gerrard, Ferguson questions why he was not played centrally more often under Rafael Benitez - who often positioned him out wide - and claims he was the only midfielder who could hurt United with bursts forward through the heart of his team's defence.
He concluded Gerrard had the ability to beat team's single-handedly.
But he suggests Gerrard only had more success at international level than Michael Carrick because of 'bravado', with the United man suffering because of a quiet personality.
Likewise, Ferguson believes Frank Lampard deserves credit for his club performances, but doesn't not consider the Chelsea midfielder an 'elite international footballer'.
Gerrard has spoken of Ferguson's desire to sign him from Liverpool and the story is confirmed in the Scotsman's autobiography.
'We made a show of him in the transfer market, as did Chelsea, because the vibe was that he wanted to move from Anfield,' writes Ferguson.
'But there seemed to be some restraining influence from people outside the club and it reached a dead end.'
I think autobiographies are generally an untrustworthy review of events shaped by faltering memories, urban myth and a need to alter or adjust fact to reflect the view that the author should always come out on the 'right' side of any given situation.
I'm sure Ferguson's book will be so. I'm also equally sure it will gloss over unsuccessful periods and major on successes without any honest evaluation of other influences that shaped it. Almost as if the author's mere presence made it happen.
I wouldn't buy the book or even bother to read a free copy as I suspect it will simply be split into 2 parts: 1. An account of how I always had the last laugh. 2. Demean or question opponents motives and methods to annoy non-disciples.
If you aren't in awe of the man or immune to the inevitable wind ups I'd ignore it.
I'm sure Ferguson's book will be so. I'm also equally sure it will gloss over unsuccessful periods and major on successes without any honest evaluation of other influences that shaped it. Almost as if the author's mere presence made it happen.
I wouldn't buy the book or even bother to read a free copy as I suspect it will simply be split into 2 parts: 1. An account of how I always had the last laugh. 2. Demean or question opponents motives and methods to annoy non-disciples.
If you aren't in awe of the man or immune to the inevitable wind ups I'd ignore it.
The thing is you need a ghostwriter who doesn't just record a few chats and then types them up, but they also do their research and really double check everything and then go back and talk again. And most hacks don't really know how to do that properly. That idiot Martin Samuel, for example, was boasting about how he'd checked everything out when it came to Redknapp's book, but all he did was go on t'internet and checked on the scores. As soon as the book came out loads of people started pointing out he'd swallowed loads of 'Arry's stories when they'd been easy enough to check out. And the Ginsoak book is just the same. Take that reference to Rafa putting his glasses on to read out his facts list: "So, on television he puts his glasses on and produces this sheet of paper". He didn't put his specs on. A ten second check on YouTube would have shown that. I know that sounds trivial but that's part and parcel of being a good researcher. It's like giving away the ball, every slip-up should hurt.
Benitez' "facts" about Ferguson were indeed facts, but Ferguson had established such an iron grip over the FA and the Premier League that any kind of challenge like that was going to be ignored or discounted by the establishment and the media. I think Rafa was being a bit Quixotic even attempting to attack the Great Ginsoak.
Then you're with me too JJ. I use Ferguson when the need arises to reference the fucker.
Everybody knows the correct term is Demento. In the absence of this twisted old purple nosed twat may also suffice.
It was a pretty silly comparison because Gerrard was about 4 years younger than Viera and about nine years younger than Keane, so of course both of them had the edge over him for most of their careers. They were very shrewd and very physical players who knew every trick in the book. Maybe Ginsoak should have a look back at how Souness played against the younger Bryan Robson.
Which was why all the stories in the papers were coming from Manchester based journalists............
Demento
I don't think you do. Since Keane retired I've heard him refer more than once to how well Stevie played against them in his time.
Cunt of a man, cunt of a club and from the quotes flying around since its release it'll be a cunt of a book. No surprises there then.
It's not even an accurate comparison. Stevie was a good deal less experienced but that also meant he wasn't scared of the task facing him. One time after we beat them at their place Keane was seen seeking Stevie out to shake his hand. You don't bother doing that for someone you've walked over.
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